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Preliminary benchmarks show the Nexus 10 graphics trailing behind the iPad 4

0. phoneArena 05 Nov 2012, 08:08 posted on

Overall, our thoughts and hopes on Cortex-A15 have been met, and we can't wait to grab one retail Nexus 10 and put it through its standard benchmarking paces...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:11

46. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Actually, a good file manager is a must have item. Also, if I want to get eBooks not on Google Play, I can do so with an Android device - not so with an Apple device...

As for virus threats, you are need to be more informed and more knowledgeable and less fearful - even Macs get viruses...

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:58 1

109. therealestmc (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


I can't think one reason I would want a file manager on a tablet. But if it's really that important to a person, he or she still can do it by jailbreaking the device. I am sure 99 of users do not know what a file manager is on neither IOS or Android.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:55

117. shuaibhere (Posts: 1597; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Just go learn something about what are you talking....
play store has no virus....

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Malware-on-Android-is-it-really-the-problem-security-companies-tout-it-to-be_id36157

you get problem when download apps from third party app stores.....even google is addressing that problem.....

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.2-spreads-security-to-third-party-app-stores-here-is-how_id36214

So android is more secure than ios....

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:52

38. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


u just said Ipad 4 a FERRARI ... hahahahaha

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 08:29 3

16. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1325; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Apple is always focusing on their graphic and no one can argue with that. That's why a lot of graphic designers are using Apple product such as iMac or Mac Pro. But I still like my Android phone and table just bc I like the OS better. Not saying which platform is better than the other, bc they both have their pros and cons, and we can never have a clear winner.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 08:37 1

19. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


omg the benchmarks are 100% representation of real life! I must by an ipad now because this benchmark told me so!

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:18 6

28. checkyoself (Posts: 2; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)


# Android fanboy comment generator

If (benchmarks == ANDROID_BEST) printf ("Very good benchmarks! Very good Android %s.", product);

If (benchmarks != ANDROID_BEST) printf "Benchmarks are stupid and worthless.");

posted on 10 Nov 2012, 20:10

121. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


#isheep comment generater
I can never bring anything to a conversation that means anything becasue I know my stuff sucks

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 08:40 1

20. remixfa (Posts: 13942; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


there is something incredibly wrong with some of those tests. You have the adreno 225 blowing away the adreno 320 and mali400 in some tests. There is OBVIOUSLY an issue with driver support in those tests.

However, for the ones where everything is as it should be, the gap between "true A15" in the exynos 5 dual and wannabe krait A15 "equivilant" BS couldnt be any more clear.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:17

27. Retro-touch (Posts: 262; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


The devices are running different software if you look at screenshot of the review tablets/phones released by Google, and they will be updated on 13th to final software. You speak as if your knowledgeable but just another American idiot, can't figure out its a software issue, remember the GS2 poor performance before it was released and the articles claiming Samsung dropped the ball, same here

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:12

47. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Idiot - speaking of..it is you're (you are) knowledgeable...not your (which is a possessive word).

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:23

53. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


well, it is true, if you are going to call somebody an idiot, you best be prepared...

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:14

102. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5621; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


dude, you're the idiot. he caught on to the inconsistencies, he just didn't happen to see the different versions of the tested devices' software and he speculated that it may be a driver issue which it is. how about cutting the guy a little bit of slack huh?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:28

58. ngo2dd (Posts: 787; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


This only show GPU not the CPU so how is there a gap ?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:29

60. remixfa (Posts: 13942; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you do realize there is a wide generational gap between the mali400/adreno225 and even a bit on the adreno 320 vs the mali600 and powerVR chips right?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:32

62. ngo2dd (Posts: 787; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


and what do that to do with the A15 cpu chipset? the GPU are independence of the CPU chipset.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 15:52

97. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1005; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


It´s not a problem with the drivers, Anand did a Glbenchmark test with ALL test included when he did the Nexus 4. It seems that the GPU got too hot and limited itself, so the tests were crap...
You can read the whole article and the why the results with the Adreno 320 in the Nexus 4 were so low here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review

Not to mention that he was using a non-final softeware version...

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:16

26. TimTebow (Posts: 70; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


andtech are big apple homers, hard to take them seriously after a while.

always biased tests.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:56 2

41. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Looser hahahhaha

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:23 3

29. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


Anyone, surprised? This is Apple, after all. Unlike the numerous yellowish brands using Handroid, there is a lot of thinking put behind each one of their products.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:41 4

32. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Lol fandroids retreat in shame

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 14:04 1

90. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Not so.

Fandroids wait for finalized software to be released in a week and a half, because there is evidence to suggest that this isn't fully optimized.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 09:44

33. _Bone_ (Posts: 2135; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Even though 4.2 isn't even finished and N10 benchmarks will improve overtime, it's pretty clear that the new new iPad has the fastest GPU out there and will stay that way until the 8-core T604 comes out early next year. I think Samsung always knew the 4-core Mali will be overshadowed by the new new iPad, but they didn't expect it to come out this year - even before the Nexus 10! But that's the Surface effect to you, Windows 8 fut some fear into the competition, and looking at the expensive specs the iPad must be Apple's least profitable product for now, the N10 must cost a lot for Sammy too.

We win.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:15

49. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Profit is not important to the consumer - it is bottom line price. Take the Ipad mini vs the Nexus 7 - why would anyone want a mini ipad at 150.00 or more in price?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:14 2

48. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


This forum epitomizes what Forest Gump was said....
"Stupid is as stupid does"

Benchmarks are not the only thing you go by, but it is nice to see a device you like score high...wait until they are officially sold in stores and everyday people start benchmarking their Nexus 10 before looking stupid and passing judgment.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:27 1

56. Retro-touch (Posts: 262; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Thought you were a troll giving English lessons in your free time, good thing I was wrong. PC GPU makers stopped using benchmarks years ago because its not indicative of performance, where some manufacturers were getting better scores but games ran smoother on lower scoring competition, which brings the question, what is the best indicator of performance? And that's day-to-day performance, actually using a technology/software/hardware

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:29

59. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Yeah, I had seen that you knew your stuff, but many don't and put on their pompoms...lol

Day-to-day performance and personal preference...something Android gives everyone. I just love flashing a new ROM on my Nexus 7 - went from Clean ROM to Glazed Jelly 4.1.2. Runs great for me, as video playback performance is number one priority on my tablet and I found some things that improve it.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:41

63. Googlethis (Posts: 170; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Cool you gave me some things to think about. Thank you.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 10:43 3

64. nwright94 (unregistered)


iOS fans: admit the nexus 10 is a great product especially for the price. Benchmarks don't determine real world use.
Android fans: admit the ipad 4 is a powerhouse as well, apple knows how to make their hardware and software work together perfectly.
Get what you like and don't be like a two year old going and telling people they picked the wrong tablet and insult their intelligence because of their choice. Is it really that big of a deal to you that a total stranger doesn't have your favorite tablet, so you feel the need to insult them?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 11:04 2

65. Xquisite (Posts: 87; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


*When the benchmarks are in androids favor* Lmao iOS is s**t, Android ftw, only dumb people buy that overpriced s**t.

*When the benchmarks are in iOS favor" Seriously benchmarks don't mean anything, it's all about real world use.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 11:59

72. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Same can be said when when its in apples favor and the ifans start cheering lie in some way this men's there better then those who use other products

This is full of fan boys, and your trying to fan the flames....

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 12:15 1

78. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Then what are u doing here,,, throwing Petrol on the Flames :P

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 12:22

80. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Nope just stating it works both ways and as your a apple troll you prove the piont .

Stop you fanboyism its sad

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 11:13 3

66. Scientist (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Oct 2012)


This is a huge disappointment.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 11:50

71. nacho69 (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


The iPad 4 has between 2X-4X GPU performance according to the charts, but I guess trailing also means outclassed.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 12:13 1

76. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


is it me or its the chart that shows only apple at the top 3 place :)

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 12:58 1

83. ngo2dd (Posts: 787; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Is it more or ITI is the one that make the GPU and not apple because the Sony has those GPU in the Vita. So I guess it is TI make great GPU and not Apple.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 14:21 1

93. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Still android aka nexus 10 get face palmed :)

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 15:54 1

98. ngo2dd (Posts: 787; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Wow you are a troll. Apple get a good chip from TI. The GPU is design by TI so give credit where it is do. TI did a good gob with it. Not apple there.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 18:17 1

103. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5621; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


it's not designed by Texas Instruments, they just make use of the design in their SoC's. Imagination Technologies is the parent company behind the PowerVR line.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:10 2

114. syedzain (Posts: 174; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Lol when apple kicks android , we become troll. But when its vice versa.. u guys become Genius right ???

Look who's troll now :)

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 13:24

86. stole38 (Posts: 14; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


i am sorry but why are the crazy resolutions so popular ? i just dont get it , its upsurd

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:07

111. mydi.maus (unregistered)


haha,smokin fast ipads wheres that mini?

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 21:15

112. mydi.maus (unregistered)


yay yay,..

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:08 1

113. jove39 (Posts: 1308; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Nothing surprising here...everyone knows power vr CPUs are best!

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 22:28 1

115. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


nice...super nice...

posted on 11 Nov 2012, 20:11

122. AndroidShiz (Posts: 145; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


Wait a minute. Let's just have a moment to mediate quietly on all that Apple has done. They introduced the iPod and then cloned it in different shapes over the last 7 years changing nothing. Since then they've introduced amazing things such as wallpaper behind the icons, over priced phone bills that affect everyone no matter what phone you have, and an amazing pull down shade. Apple doesn't simply suck. They suck on levels that leave you...in...awe. Mind...blown. Respect the suck. Respect it.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 08:06

125. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Nobody said anything about the design or what the screen has on it. But i guess you had to find something else you felt was key issue but had nothing to do with article at hand. We all know when the next android phone drops in 20 minutes or supper phone drops in 1-5 days it will trump the iPhones specs garaunteed because it always happens. Just like the Nexus phones the iPhone will sell not because it is a top spec phone because it is consistent and will be supported with out needing a third party intervention for years to come

posted on 16 Nov 2012, 10:10

124. phonemonkey (Posts: 166; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)


of course when android doesnt win it comes back to a price issue

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