Preliminary benchmarks show the Nexus 10 graphics trailing behind the iPad 4
0. phoneArena 05 Nov 2012, 08:08 posted on
Overall, our thoughts and hopes on Cortex-A15 have been met, and we can't wait to grab one retail Nexus 10 and put it through its standard benchmarking paces...
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1. mercorp (Posts: 988; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
This is freaking insane,considering the price.
9. MeoCao (unregistered)
I watched some Nexus 10 reviews and saw lags and the performance was not as smooth as Nexus 7. May be this was only the preproduction prototypes and Google and SS will improve the final products.
30. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
they dont have the retail version yet...in some videos they even say its not the final version.
12. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Yes, considering the price its one helluva device. Since the A15 SoC architecture is new these bench mark tests are non optimized to fully measure the exynos 5 capabilities. I guess it should be some issues with the new kernel or android 4.2. it would be solved in a future 4.2.2 update orso. what amaze me is even if it is non-optimized tests, nexus 10 is not left far behind in the competition. And since the nexus 10 drives more than 90000 pixels than ipad 4, these two are not comparable. But its weird that adreno 225 scores better than adreno 320. So these tests are not trustworthy IMO
105. nacho69 (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
That's why they have offscreen tests at 1080p to level it out, and the sgx554mp4 still has around twice the FPS.
119. ahmed_ali_yossef2010 (Posts: 162; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
IF YOU MEANT htc one x and lg nexus 4
so adreno 225 run on the resolution of 960×540
but adreno 320 run on the resolution of 1280×768
24. Retro-touch (Posts: 268; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
They're running pre-release software which isn't optimized so no surprises there,I remember the GS2 performing poorly before it was released and blew everyone away, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions until the devices are released. It was indicated I think at engadget that Google would be updating the review phones on November 13th
34. syedzain (Posts: 175; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Lol.... the main point here is Nexus 10 lost hahahahaha
88. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Ahahaha I know right.
The Lakers won't make the playoffs after losing all those preseason games, just as the Nexus 10 didn't perform well in _preliminary_ tests.
37. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
"Trailing behind the iPad 4" ...
The headline should be more along the lines of:
"iPad 4 completely blows the Nexus 10 out of water in preliminary benchmarks"
69. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Speaking of SoC, A15 blows the A6X out of the water..
Just wait for the first Geekgbench results!
77. Hemlocke (unregistered)
They are in, and the CPU and GPU in the A6 and A6X are superior to the 5250. Try again.
84. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
What are you throbbing about?
Here's an iPad 4 geekbench result:
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Even the Galaxy s3 is better than that!
85. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Here's the s3:
Again, geekbench is the only OVERALL cross-platform chip performance comparison tool.
When A15 score comes out, I expect at the number to hit at least 2500
91. PequeñoConfucio (Posts: 9; Member since: 28 Oct 2012)
And here's a Nexus 10 result:
94. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
It's not 2500 obviously, but still far ahead every other mobile chip
A6x has one incredible GPU, but geekbench clearly shows the swift CPU is not on par with A15 CPU
107. therealestmc (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Not really. It's because the A15 is clocked @ 1.70 GHz , while A6x is clocked @ 1.39 GHz. I am sure if if Apple clocks the A6x at 1.7, it would most likely achieve a higher than that.
118. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Check the stats for both. Average score for A15 is 2350.
With 1.7ghz apple should go to about 2050 but that's it.
110. phatmann (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Yeah sure it might not be on par but considering th fact that the nexus 10 has a 22% increase in clockspeed over the ipad 4 but if it were clicked at the same thing it would score 2133 and anyways the leap over the gpu over the nexus 10 is more than the differences bettween the CPUs so yeah
96. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1161; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
And you got a low one, the average is over 2300
101. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Phonearena, please make an article about this benchmark too.. we are seeing a great leap in mobile computing.
Think about it, this cheap Exynos having more than double the power of once almighty Power Mac G5 pc tower!
106. nacho69 (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Exynos 5's a15 is around 25% faster than iPad4's swift cores and the iPad4's GPU is 60% faster than the Mali t604. Geekbench of 1757 vs 2300, GPU scores are 42 FPS vs 25 FPS. Choice is yours but a meaty GPU is better for games and the slightly faster CPU is better for web browsing and email but you'll only be able to do that when you're connected to Wi-Fi since there is no cellular version of the Nexus 10 anyway. Or a 64GB version and no tablet apps, Especially any apps at 2560 x 1600.
99. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Is the T604 a quadcore or a dualcore? same as Adreno320vs Pvrsgx quadcore. A bit unfair comparison?
108. nacho69 (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Quad core, Dual core, don't pay attention to any of that unless you know the difference in the architectures, what you really need to do is check out the benchmarks. For a CPU example: a quad core cortex A9 as in the Tegra 3 is slower than a dual core cortex A15 as in the exynos 5. A GPU example: the dual core SGX543MP2 in the iPad mini is faster than the 12 core GPU in the Tegra 3. So just check out the benchmarks when you want to compare SOC's. Geekbench for cross platform CPU benching and GLBenchmark for cross-platform GPU benching.
2. Ninetysix (Posts: 1784; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Apple A6 wins in most of those benchmarks. Here comes the fandroids hate posts!
/popcorn ...dis gunna be good.
4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9511; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Too bad it doesn't take much to run an app drawer that hasn't been changed since 2007.
8. darkkjedii (Posts: 13892; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Don't hate jus admit the iPad 4 is a beast just like the nexus 10
23. Googlethis (Posts: 171; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
there both great tablets thank you for admitting that.
73. darkkjedii (Posts: 13892; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
They sure r. If u think about it How can u go wrong either way.
68. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9511; Member since: 14 May 2012)
They are both good in their own ways, especially the scores shown from A6X. But what I'm saying is all the speed is a little overkill on an OS that doesn't need much to operate. The A6X is good for GPU hog games, which I will admit, run like butter.
The new A15 isn't a slouch either. It's up there in benchmark scores and the real speed will be determined in real life performance.
Apple knocked it out of the park with A6X, and I'm waiting to see how chips next year are going to perform.
70. Googlethis (Posts: 171; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
so if I am understanding your comment if they are running the same software they might get diffrent scores than what the current benchmark shows.I am not trying to be a wise acre just being curiouse.
74. darkkjedii (Posts: 13892; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Papa I jus feel choosing either one is a win
89. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Did you just make a reasonable statement on the Internet?
Get out. This is crazy. You can't admit that two competing companies have good products.
35. syedzain (Posts: 175; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Dude.. come on,,, droids got use of loosing.......hahahaahah
11. thephonedude (Posts: 60; Member since: 27 Oct 2012)
But the Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 have a remarkably good benchmarks, Considering that it's a FRACTION OF A PRICE OF AN IPAD3/4.
36. syedzain (Posts: 175; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Great excuse lol... ipad 4 kept all droids mouth SHUT hahaha
67. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
Maybe you should keep yours shut
All you do I troll and talk crap with every one of your comments its clearer your just a mindless immature kid
79. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
Your seriously some kid aren't you
What a dumb ass enjoy your mindless existence
18. ajac09 (Posts: 1375; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Benchmarks mean as much as the pre-vote in an eleciton. Easily manipulated and dont mean s**t. Its really sad that isheep and isheep websites like phonearena make them sound like they are fact and law. They are not. Companies have been manipulating benchmarks since benchmarks became the geek way of saying "I have a 9inch penis what size is yours."
39. CreeDiddy (Posts: 422; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
Benchmarking is a clear indicator of performance. Some reviews of the Nexus 10 show some slight lag in some of the high graphic games. That's an indication of the GPU, processing power, as well as software performance of the OS. So to say that credible websites, such as Anandtech is manipulating data is a wrong statement to make. What else can you judge the performance by? I think what makes you upset is that the iPad still is a remarkable performer and you prefer that all of the benchmarks favor the Nexus 10 because its a new device that is supposed to be the iPad killer based on the price.
3. hung2900 (Posts: 829; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Still weaker than iPad 4 a lot.
Quite surprised abt fill test coz ARM and Samsung claimed it had 2.1 giga pixels, double than the benchmark result above.
21. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Its not weaker, infact A15 is stronger than any swift cores, quad core kraits , or any other a9 variants. Some thing wrong is going on here. Maybe Anandtech might have a faulty unit or a pre-final build software.
31. ngo2dd (Posts: 886; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
You know that does are for GPU and not CPU right?
44. remixfa (Posts: 14251; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the GPU on the Exynos5 is stronger by far than everything up there except maybe the powerVR in the newest ipad if even that. I'd have to review the powerVR's specs again to be sure.
Regardless, the Mali 6xx GPU in the Exynos5 is more than twice as strong as the Mali400 in the SGS3/SGS2, and 20-30% stronger than even the quad krait's Adreno320 GPU.
The software is not properly optimized somewhere.
This needs to be revisited with retail hardware, not prerelease models.
43. syedzain (Posts: 175; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
OH my .... still it lost with IPAD 4 hahhahahah
116. shuaibhere (Posts: 1745; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Do you know any thing about what is happening here???????
Just repeating the same bull s**t in every post.......do you even know what is A6x?????
5. Ninetysix (Posts: 1784; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Please fix the article since they tested the Egypt offscreen for the ipad as well.
6. Cyan3boN (Posts: 434; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
nothing beats a 27 inch monitor with state of the art gaming peripherals and a badass radeon 7970. seriously anyone thinking about playing games on a Tablet. well not for a majority of em
13. Captain_Doug (Posts: 836; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
At least gaming in HD. My type of gaming on a tablet would involve the archos gamepad and a bunch of emulators. Good times.
17. Commentator (Posts: 2615; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Considering this article (heck, this entire website) has everything to do with smartphones and tablets and absolutely nothing to do with PC gaming, I'm not quite sure what your comment is doing here.
7. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
i would like to see the quadrant,antutu and vellamo scores as well.
14. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Ninetysix, you go that right. i made me a couple of sandwiches and sat back.
15. frydaexiii (Posts: 1262; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Cool benchmarks, I suppose it can multitask, have a file manager and no longer tied to iTunes anymore? Oh wait...
It doesn't matter to me if the iPad 4 benchmarks show that it's 20x faster than any Android device, if it can't even do the basic stuff like those mentioned above, what's the point. It's like owning a Ferrari but never bringing it out of the 1st gear...
25. checkyoself (Posts: 2; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
Yes, because since the dawn of time people have been DYING to get some good file managers on their tablets. It's the very first thing one thinks of when one considers the possibilities of a tablet. A kick ass file manager to enjoy for hours on end while hanging on the couch.
You can get all those things you want on a nice and shiney plastic Android tablet, including all the virus threats you will know and love coming from a Windows PC. Just install some anti-virus software on your tablet that eats up even more of your device's resources and you're good to go!
Enjoy your Android "Ferrari".