Poll results: Replaceable battery or unibody design - which one do you prefer?
0. phoneArena 19 Apr 2013, 07:12 posted on
The poll ran surprisingly tight, with slight preference - 1864 on 1703 votes - going to the flexible designs with a removable battery Samsung and LG are betting on. Of course, nobody can say those two are nailing it in the eye candy department like HTC, Sony and Nokia do with their unibody chassis, so it's a tradeoff like everything else in our mobile experience...
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1. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
I prefer both, cause unibody looks nice and neat!
And replaceable is more convenient!
it's depends what you like, and what your needs are!
3. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3614; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
It depends on the power capacity the battery is able to hold too.
No one will want a unibody phone with a paltry battery capacity of 1500mAh powering a 1080p device.
24. alila2 (Posts: 138; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
how about have both, a replaceable body that look like unibody . it can be done.
25. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
Yesterday big party, navigation, photos, swap of my batteries and 100% online without any brake :-)
34. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3614; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Big party, navigation, photos, swap of batteries...without any 'break'?
I'm sorry but if you swap your battery, isn't your phone supposed to be off? How can you say you swapped batteries without any break??
Please, show me that neat trick!
44. ddurand (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
he was at a big party using his phone alot. using it for vidoes, photos and navigation.
his battery died and he swapped another in without taking a break from his usage. meaning hes for removable batteries. this is a good example of why people would be in favor of this design.
it was not that hard to follow.
50. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3614; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Why you not get me joke??
74. MattyP (Posts: 19; Member since: 31 Jul 2013)
Yesterday big party, navigation, photos, pulled out my 6000mAh battery pack and charged my HTC One and two lady's without a brake :-)
28. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
I'd take unibody design. Battery issues? Thats why there are powerbanks.
35. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
yeah powerbanks is better than extra battery
just imagine if you have 2 smartphone you will need carry at least 2 extra battery and how about when you buy new phone so you need buy another extra battery geez...
With One good powerbanks no matter what the device you have everything is gonna be just... Fine
38. Lboogey6 (Posts: 281; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)
great now the design of your device is gone because you have a bulky extra battery case... you just contradicted what you wanted. "yeah ill take the bmw m5 but cover it in a steel slab to make it safer"
40. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
haha.. Of course not because from the first time i have a phone until this day i never use any kind of case, and since i have 2 smartphone i never have battery issues on my daily life.
So i only carry my portable charger when i go for several days to remote area
''in the reality there is much more people who have portable charger than stupid extra battery''
76. just4fun (Posts: 7; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)
Excuse me but a decent battery pack (10000 mah) still weighs like a small brick. WHy make phone so thin and small and carry around a huge brick to supplement it? makes no sense.
Batteries are much smaller than a phone. Power packs are 2-3 times the size and 5-10 times weight of phones.
77. MattyP (Posts: 19; Member since: 31 Jul 2013)
Or you could supplement it with a realistically sized "decent" battery pack that gives you more versatility than a single battery for one device.
How did you come to a conclusion that 10000mah is a decent battery pack size when a single phone charge is usually around 2000-3500mah...that makes no sense if you'd be willing to carry around an extra battery for the phone but would need 4x that for a battery pack.*raised eyebrow*
I'd say amazon.com/dp/B00OM2EOB8 would be sufficient for anyone and most definitely wouldn't be classified as a huge brick, and there are many others from 3000-10000mah that are quite slim and light for their capacity versus a specific phone battery that offers a lot less flexibility in its use.
I'm not opposed to extra phone batteries either, but being narrow-minded and spewing misinformation to try and make a point is always useless.
55. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
What if the charging port breaks on your phone out of warranty? how much are you willing to pay to get you up and running? Maybe this hasn't happened to you but, I am thankful that I had the option to swap batteries until the end of contract. It saved my tail in dollars. Dollars used to purchase a new phone. It really is that logical.
61. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
good thinking and logical enough yes that never happened to me
but the extra dolar you used to buy extra battery can be use to fix your phone
oh if your phone breaks that easly just find another one with better build quality
portable charge is better option than extra battery because it can be use to charge any devices and usualy pack more power than extra battery
2. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Well, I will still stick to my choice, and that's the unibody design! :)
4. _PHug_ (Posts: 444; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
I'm right, as usual and the other 48% of this community is wrong.
5. amats69 (Posts: 1383; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
how can you say who is right and who is wrong if the poll is all about own preference?
9. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
He must think he is a god of some kind, sincerely looks like a spoiled brat to me.
6. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Theyr not wrong dude. . They want a unibody one, opinions are not wrong unless marked w/ hatred and bias and innocence :)
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
The world doesn't need ignorance from people like you.
12. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3614; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Role Reversal (Meant especially for _PHug_): You're wrong, as usual and the other 48% of this community is right!
17. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Everyone is right, and you're the only one who is wrong! :P
29. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Please try not to be Chuck Norris. Not even close.
7. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
It is still convnient and future proof for me to have replaceable battery..
8. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I think both of them has their own superiority.
my previous phone had a replaceable battery but i rarely took out its battery and i did it only to deal with sudden hangings.
this problem is solved in new phones with unibody design and so we can enjoy their beautiful design.
11. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10439; Member since: 14 May 2012)
As I've said many times before, design doesn't matter to be because I always wrap my phones in Otter Box cases. Plus, on my GS3, when one battery dies, I just pop in another one. :)
13. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Yah ryt :) and gs4 isnt ugly for me.. front pnel prettiest among them nxt is g pro(oops i just like d screen eating d front face w/ tiny bezels, and slyt curve looks premium than sharp ones), however back panel gs4 and g pro r d least pretty among them
14. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
Samsung hired trolls to swarm this website anyways
27. tiara6918 (Posts: 2026; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Too many apple and Samsung products at singapore,it's like I'm the only one owning an htc. I can barely see other smartphone brands
62. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
haha . I personally know some of my friends that own a One X
15. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Two things come to mind here.
1) Batteries may be producing more usage power, but the design of them hasn't changed. They still are based on the same technological basics. This means the fail rate is still the same. Often diminishing in hours before the contract ends. This point is not just about how many hours of use a person can get from their device. For this reason, easy accessibility is still preferred by most users. manufacturers should not ignore this poll.
2) Elegance seems to portray the interest in ignoring my above point. However, when I see how many elegant looking vehicles are on the road, I can't help think that you can still change the battery without having to spend money in bringing it to a shop for battery change. I feel strongly that these manufacturers have the ability to design a stunning device yet still retain accessible parts such as SD slots and removeable batteries.
The manufacturers are simply trying to groom the users into an uncompromising state of manufacture and carriers service financial control. Very anti-consumer.
20. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I have written to congress on this subject that these statistical results will grow as more people are forced into bringing a device into a repair center for replacement at a exponential cost.
In lieu of battery replacement, what about when the charging port breaks within two months of end of contract? Who wants to spend 150 dollars for a replacement device when that money can be used for a new one? Swapping batteries can nurse the current device until then.
21. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
True.. maybe they have mutual agreements with google to choose only bet d two-unibody or replcble batt hahaha joke
23. greathero1 (Posts: 563; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
I think you are reading WAY too much into this. I am still trying to figure out how we have come to comparing car and cell batteries? I also don't know where you found that most users still prefer swappable batteries? Too many devices that lack swappable batteries and SD cards have sold well for you to say most users prefer something. Even if they do prefer it, it definitely is not a deal breaker when it comes time to purchase a device.
39. Lboogey6 (Posts: 281; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)
its because its a fairly new process minus the droid razor maxx no other phone made unibody that lasts that long they will die way too fast. its because they can make a better device with better battery but choose not to they'll give you glits and glam making the 48% here think otherwise about the fact that battery problem still exists yes they gave you a bigger battery but its still limited and for people who don't charge their phones correctly its going to be a big issue. It can be done nice phone with great battery look at the maxx then with cars nice cars that can go weeks with out having to fill up again it can be done but the industry tells you otherwise as americans we don't do options well we allow them to say this is perfect when its not.
54. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Is it that my thinking is out of bounds or is it that people are not looking deep enough? The car comparison is for example only. As it stands today, throw away phones have removable batteries while the trend for high end phones are eliminating key features that most of the poll cast a preference for.If you study the results, most that like non-removable batteries, have expressed the reason as looks and disregard the basic essentials for function. Don't you think it should be the other way around? Most electronic devices have accessibility to control battery replacement. It only makes sense.If you take this poll from us geeks and add the mainstream users into the mix, clearly half of cellphone users would definitely prefer the options of removable battery or SD cards.If something is cheap and the battery no longer functions, you throw it away and purchase a new one. But what about a 600 dollar device?
Maybe you haven't experienced the issue but, just get caught once in a situation where you can't remove the battery to swap it to get you up and running. This is very frustrating, annoying and somewhat embarrassing when supposedly owning a "High End device and have to revert to either a back up phone or a 15 dollar TracFone to place a damn call while your "high end" phone ends up detained at a shop for a stupid battery. As another extreme, both my wife and I experienced faulty charging ports outside the warranty. My wife's three months before contract end and two months for me. I wasn't about to spend close to 300 dollars on refurbished phones just to get me through contract. We swapped and charged batteries via desktop and used the money to purchase new phones at the end.
I like this option and feel manufacturers can indeed design around these features. I just don't buy the elegant excuse. It's a ploy to extract $$ from consumers. I feel I'm correct and time will certainly tell as the this practice becomes more prevalent. I have constituents already displeased with having to drive to stores(some have to drive 15-20 miles) just to have their batteries replaced. It's impractical for consumers and is an insult. The only entities that placate from this situation, is the carriers or manufacturers.
16. Tux_Alan (Posts: 74; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
Ever since I bought 2 extra batteries and an wall charger for my cell I have not looked back, the convenience of just swapping batteries and never runnng out of power or plugging my phone is a blessing! Then again, I do make a pretty intensive use of the thing... lol
18. greathero1 (Posts: 563; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
If the phone includes a larger battery then a unibody design would be my preference. Especially if the design is as nice as the One, Xperia Z, iPhone 5, and Nexus 4.
56. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Excuse my trolling but, you're ignoring the fact that batteries fail. It doesn't matter how large they are. They begin to lose hour life from the moment of first charge. Power users will begin to notice the fault in this direction of sealed unibody design just on battery issues alone. It's easy to celebrate a new trend that boasts elegance, but...what good is elegance if your phone is rendered useless due to something as simple as a battery? It's your money. Don't you like knowing you have more control out of the simplest of maintenance?
19. fwinst (Posts: 64; Member since: 08 May 2010)
Being able to change my own battery has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. So, at this point I'd still go with the removable battery design. Although, if rumors are correct, and Sammy had designed the S4 with a metal body but couldn't resolve manufacturing issues. That would likely lead to the GS5 being a metal phone (i.e. unibody). If the design makes the phone slightly thicker in order to hold a 3100 Mah (or larger) battery, I might be willing to look at it. I don't want to be on a constant search for an outlet, like many of my iPhone carrying friends.
22. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
And my HTC Desire S was considered unibody, but still has removable battery and expendable storage. :P
To me, it's about the complete package. I don't mind non removable battery as long as daily usage and performance is not compromised.
26. tiara6918 (Posts: 2026; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
But if you ask the average smartphone user outside the streets,they won't care about having removable back covers nor the unibody design. They just follow the trend so whatever that smartphone offers it doesn't matter to them
30. sharks (Posts: 233; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
Most people don't even know why replaceable battery smartphones would be better for them - they just enjoy to have the possibility (which is really dumb, as it keeps those people from enjoying the more refined unibody phones)! Smartphones are getting increasingly efficient in power management. Anyway, how many of you walk around with a spare battery in your pocket/backpack/purse? Very few! But those people who voted 52% for a replaceable battery are only doing that for the additional option of a future possibility of them ever needing to swap the battery while on-the-go. But seriously, out of those 52% maybe 2% really need the extra battery pack, due to them going for several days in areas with no electricity (but increasinly, even in remote areas, you get diesel-powered electricity generator and finding a socket around you to charge your mobile isn't even worth a second thought). People need to sit down, reflect and realize that although some great phones do have swappable batteries, they really very rarely (if ever) swap batteries. One simple way to test yourself: ask yourself if you have (or ever bought) an extra battery for your smartphone. Most of you never did and never will. It's as simple as that!
36. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
wow you conducted a survey?LOL n talk like you know what those 52% are thinking.Actually smartphones are now really Smart that make maybe the Young generation and geek adults out there to consume too much battry bcoz of heavy usage esp games movies and internet
41. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
he is telling the truth,
but if you heavy user just buy portable charger its a better solution than extra battery, because
your device can keep going ( don't need to turn off the phone )
can give you more power than extra battery
can charger any device
you don't have buy new extra battery everytime you buy a new phone
removeable or not there is more people use portable charger than extra battery
43. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
he is telling the truth about what other thinks regarding replacble batt?,, c'mon, both of u r not part of d 52% so dont think and talk in behalf of us(im one of d 52%)
and ur comment abt portable isnt 100% compatible to his arguments, pls stop.. hes talking abt what others think abt replcble batt and chu2 not even a single portable charger..
i dont want any portable charger to use, coz ull charge ur phone w/ it, how if im a simple photographer or busy w/ something else, how will i wander around my device when i am connected w/ a portable charger..
the juice extenders> i dont like my phone to carry bulk and the beauty of my smartphone will b extnguishd..
ill begin to wipe out replcble batt if this thing will happen:
49. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
you what im not like you who talk a lot without prove did you remember did i have galaxy S2 and nokia E6-00 both of them is have replaceable battery. All my family have a phone with replaceable battery but none of them have Extra battery they prefer portable charger instead
and my comment about portable charger is for you because you said ''maybe the Young generation and geek adults out there to consume too much battry bcoz of heavy usage esp games movies
and internet'' geek will spend all the time inside their house while playing games so they will never have battery issues,
did you watch a movie and playing all the time while you at school, or at the office ??? If you do i know why you soo stupid
there is no photographer or busy people who spend all the time staring at their smartphone
in normal use any phone with good battery will survive more than 1 day
even Xperia P with small battery will survive about a day in normal use
''the beauty of my smartphone'' haha... Note 2 is Big Fat and Ugly phone you can buy smaller Portable charger than you note 2 with more power than those extra battery
about those wireless charging i think Sony ideas or innovation are much more better
'' the inventor of this patent is Hiroyuki Yamasuge. The patent was filed in 2009, when the company reported that 60 watts of electrical power can be submitted over a distance of 50 cm. ''
you can check this :
or here for more simple:
58. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Im not talking abt normal use fckng idiot!!
I and some other people are heavy users, and u cant deny that android is super power hungry,, pls dont speak in behalf of what im experiencng. Stupid. U r old person maybe thats why u dont enjoy playing games and watching movies.. and i am not saying abt everyday heavy usage. . Just few or many circumstances that myt brng u on heavy usage..
All note2 users are very overwhlmd w/ their note2 coz its d best android phone made disrgard 2013 specs., dont call it ugly coz its not. U r ugly. Dont mention abt portable chrger, i dont want it okay just see my reasons..
Shoooot u dont know how to comprhnd, sinple photographer-using phone not only as a gameitem, internet buddy, movie handset but also takingvpictures a lot and if u ran out batt and u want to use ur phone more, portable charger will delay ur actvties, replcbl batt is a must..
Busy people- busy peple w/ dr phone.. heavy users cmon stupid.
And abt that patent, shoot u!! I dint care abt that patent issues u have, im saying if something like that"my link" will happen den i can ignore replcble batt.. uPATHtC SONY fAnBOY, i ddnt even say that smsung is great w/ that technolgy and u started to make some comparisons who made dat patent who has better patents.. duhhh, i just want that tech i dont care who will bring it to d floor..
60. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
do you know what normal use are. your playing game, internet browsing, taking picture, calling, texting and anything else your device will survive at least 1 day just like many reviewer do specialy if you have note 2 with the big ass battery i don't think you will have a problem
doing your little fotography, games and internet things
You will only have battery problem when staring at your phone all day long
are you have a life???
I'm talking sony ideas is better and i show you that patent just to make sure you not talking to much about new ideas and innovation like you usualy do
Sony fanboy haha the last Sony phone i have is K750i and its loong time ago..
Don't spending to much time on your phone its not good for your kid
63. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Its my phone not urs..
I will respct ur ideas but dont talk in behalf of us.. we want replcbl batt bcoz we have our own reason, mind ur own life,, even it will last all day, replacble batt is what we want. . Dont generalize ur opinions coz you are not one of d 52%
Sony ideas are better or not im not talking abt it. Stfu
Samsung hater dont push urself..
66. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Blind love, Hattred, and the Truth are 3 different things
the truth is from 52% only small % who actualy have extra battery just like what sharks said and i've lost my faith on PA poll since they change the vote result of Lumia 920 and XP Z
all the fanboy have blind love and usualy cluless no matter what the company
if i hate samsung so bad i'll not have Galaxy Y, and Galaxy S2
just open your mind those
company only care about your money, but if samsung paid you i can understand why you trying so hard
67. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
U r d one trying so hard lol
K fine the 52% is ur relatives so u know, lol
Im one of d 52% and im one of those strangers for u coz i have extra battery.
Haha u have so many relatives huh. Haha
Change d result of d poll? Lols trying evry excuses, spam votes were removed so that was changed..
Lets just dance abt ur last pargrph haha, thats BUSINESS made for profit hahahaha what do u want samsung is a non-profit org lol.. Profit drives businesses to compete and that booms technology and samsung is one of d great per4mers here along w/ apple sony and others, and thats why samsung made to be d owner of d largest number of mobile patents today
70. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
huahahahah when they lost the battle they always saying the ''Largest'' word
Samsung is the largest number of mobile patents today yes they are, but did samsung invent all of those patent??? Most of them samsung acquired the patent from another company. For example One of the greates samsung weapon ''Amoled screen'' it uses pentile matrix
did samsung invent pentile matrix??
71. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Lost d battle? ? Haha when??
Ok u know samsung so much, u work there? Haha fine
31. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Haven't had to replace a failing battery yet, much ado over nothing.
Get a juice pack which can be used for newer phones as well you'll sacrifice nothing for a cheaply made phone.
32. Techsplash (Posts: 41; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
i have no problems with a sealed back.i only will remove it if there is any sort of sim card slot.and i dont really think that battery is a thing that is replaced before 3 or 4 years.if it had to.