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Poll results: Galaxy NEXUS vs Galaxy S II vs DROID RAZR vs iPhone 4S

0. phoneArena 24 Oct 2011, 07:04 posted on

The Samsung GALAXY Nexus was announced last week with industry challenging huge 4.65-inch screen with a resolution of 720x1280 pixels. The beautiful contoured screen was the biggest highlight…

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posted on 24 Oct 2011, 15:37 3

103. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

android gives us choice

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 15:47

105. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

what exactly is that choice...???... ability to hack it... wow.. i am impress... and please dont tell me live wallpapers or widgets. hardy anyone uses those things

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 17:05 2

110. koutrelakos (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Mar 2010)

I don't know about that -- Samsung is looking pretty good these days. I'm a 4S owner.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 16:57 3

109. toaster (Posts: 114; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)

I wonder, are you trolling or was that a genuine question? If it was the latter, you probably won't understand the explanation.

Form factor is the most immedate thing that comes to mind. iPhones come in one shape, size and flavour. 3.5" screen, 3G connectivity, no hardware keyboard. All of the iPhones since the 3G have had those in common. If you come from RIMworld and can't imagine a phone without a keyboard, sorry, the iPhone's not for you. Same if you have vision problems and need a bigger screen, or want LTE connectivity. The "one size fits all" method is why Android has more market share than iOS.

This was fine when iPhones had the best of the best design out of any phone today, but it's now outclassed in every way, especially given that the 4S was a warmed over iPhone 4. It's no longer the thinnest, no longer has the highest PPI, nowhere near the most durable, or the most ergonomic phone you can buy today.

Android phones come in literally every shape, size and form factor imaginable. Screen sizes from 2.5" to 5.3". A variety of screen technology - NOVA, SAMOLED, IPS LCD, and the list goes on. You can get 3G connectivity, AT&T "faux-G" True HSPA+ (T-Mo) or LTE/WiMax. There are (brand new) phones to suit any price range. Some Androids have excellent keyboards (Droid 3) but no OEM has bested RIM in this category.

Apple and Google's different approach can be compared to restaurants. When they were first thought of, there was a set meal served at a set time on a set day. If you didn't like it, too bad. (iOS) Modern approach greets us with almost overwhelming choice on what to eat. (Android). There is a reason why the former method has long since been though of as obsolete.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 17:23

112. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

I understand al that.. but why knock on Aplkle for being different... for being one size fits all... most of the Apple haters are always bashing Apple for not being like Android...

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 17:28 2

113. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3114; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

What morons like you king don't realize is there is actually only ONE iPhone released each other. That means if you want the iPhone, you only have ONE option. If there was only ONE android phone that comes out each year. All of us would have that ONE android phone. Thus the sales of that ONE android phone would be outrageous. But because there are hundreds of android phones available, all shapes and sizes, the sales are spread out. But of course, you are an idiot who can't realize that.

I mean I can actually picture in my mind you speaking in words like that.


posted on 24 Oct 2011, 17:30 4

114. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3114; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Dude in every single freaking android and apple article you are bashing Android. You never give android ANY credit whatsoever, so why are you whining and crying over people bashing Apple? It's people like you the reasons we hate apple. You are so brain washed and simple minded that you can't give credit or even think that another OS is of worth.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 18:03 2

116. toaster (Posts: 114; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)

Why did you ask for elaboration when you knew what he meant?

Name one place in that post where I knocked Apple. I just said that the one size fits all method is not the most effective strategy, because one size indeed does NOT fit all. It's great when you look at purely cost-wise - if you're only making one thing you don't have to hire a whole set of workers to create a screen that has 0.2" more real estate. But iPhones of late feel very "same-y" which is part of the reason I won't consider the iPhone 4S in February when my contract is up. That is the downfall. Apple is no longer ruling the smartphone race because of it.

Nothing in my post was emotionally charged or biased, just factual and based on personal experience as a person who owns Apple products and is a fervent tech follower.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 23:36 1

128. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Its satisfaction not satisfaccion.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 07:08 8

3. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

what we all knew. only the ibot crazy fans ran up and bought the i4s. most people are holding out for something better. Thus the i4s is going to be a sales let down in the end, taco is going to lose the Q1 2012 bet and be forever banned from the boards.

The world belongs to android, if you like it or not :)

Gallito, wanna have the same bet?? :)

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 07:11 1

6. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)

they really do have a strong faith huh..

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 07:19 8

8. Cyd07 (Posts: 83; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)

"Most people"...well, why everybody here think the worls is full a geeks well-aware of all the news techs ?

The fact is Iphone 4S has huge sellings. 4 millions in three days. I don't know how will be selled since Christmas, but it wil be huge.

For the sake of precision : I'm a geek well-aware of news techs, I prefer Android.

But please do'nt be narrow-minded : Android has more geeks in its customers, ans phonearena in its readers...do you you really wonder why Iphone does not "sell" well on phonearena ? Look at every people with Iphone, then say me you really think those people go on phonearena and vote on a poll like this...

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 07:29 1

10. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Well said! they don't put"content will be hot on the cups because they think you will find it funny

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 07:59 3

19. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

there are plenty of iOS users on phone arena. most are just afraid to speak up because you have idiots like taco, gallito, and miz giving iOS users a bad name. Look at the poll numbers, close to 4000 people voted in the poll. There are probably 20-40 regular posting board members and a few dozen that post here n there. Dont confuse the boards with people that visit PA. There are thousands of unspoken visitors that dont jump into the boards.

The apple users here are much higher than the board and poll suggests. Why might that be? A lot of them are probably disappointed in what the i4s brings to the table and are either abstaining until the i5 is released or thinking about jumping ship for the nexus or other devices.

Not everyone is a rabbid ifan like taco/gallito/miz.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 08:20 9

22. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)

I wouldn't said I'm afraid to post or speak, it's just most of the intelligence in the conversation is gone. It's always the same story of "Android is awesome, iOS sucks." And to those people, there is no in between. Apple could cure cancer and a good number of folks here would have a hard time saying that it's a good thing. I knew it was bad when there was a story about Microsoft and posters here were actually saying that Microsoft and Windows Phone 7 was better than iOS...that's about when I just stopped looking at PhoneArena in general.

As you guys know, I'm a big iOS guy. But I'm not so blinded by my device that I can't say what's awesome about the other platforms. But trying to debate or have a conversation with someone who is "ANDROID ANDROID ANDROID" is just stupid and that's what the vast majority of this site has become. Look at any...ANY Apple news and find one other than Jobs stepping down and Job dying that iOS hate didn't come out.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 08:31 2

24. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

there is plenty of intelligent conversation to be had jeff, u just gonna plow through the crap.

so what your saying is that you stopped looking at PA because someone's opinion was the WP7 was better than iOS?? come on, really? I think that WP7 is better than iOS. I also think that android is better than WP7. You cant say you arent blinded by fanaticism in one sentence and then in another say you stop reading the site because someone had a different opinion than you. That would be right up the alley with fanaticism.

You see iOS hate. Most people dislike the company more than they dislike the OS itself. And most of the "hate" is directed at the usual suspects like Taco and Gallito, than it is at the OS.
What the iOS team is missing right now is a coherent user that uses facts and doesnt throw insults every 5 seconds like a baby, when it does get down into the VS battles. Instead of crying about iOS hate because people dont have the same opinions, jump back in and make your valid points.

You were one of the few iOS people that had valid arguments and could write a paragraph that was coherent.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 08:46 2

26. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

It's my long-lost brother JeffdaBeat! Let's create our own forum for adult PhoneArena convos (adult as in non-childish, not as in explicit material).

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 08:48 1

27. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

for the record, i see very little blind "iOS hate" or anything like that. Yea there is some from the ancillary characters, but for the most part i see a bunch of people that have chosen their preferred OS and like to talk about the differences between them. Even idiots like taco and gallito make a good point here and there between blind fanaticism comments. Many of us "ios haters" have come to apple's defense when someone says something completely stupid or untrue and merrits a response.

Heck, I see more android people defending iOS from unwarranted/idiotic attacks from other android people than I ever see iOS people doing the same, no matter how baseless or idiotic the accusation is. Most of "us" can see the value in other OS's, competition, and the like. Its mostly the iOS users that have the "apple or die" mentality.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:00 3

28. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

remixfa, I think your comment only adds to JeffdaBeat's frustration. He wasn't saying "I stopped reading b/c they bashed my iOS." He was saying, "Incessant bashing of iOS occurred when it didn't even call for it." The article was about Windows Phone, and it turns into iOS hate? Why?

Granted we have both sides. And why should there be? We all should love tech, all mobile OSs, and the leap-frogging that occurs because of the competition between them.

BTW, I think your comment about "Most people dislike the company more than they dislike the OS itself" is bogus. The comments usually don't end with "...and I dislike Apple because of their business motto." They say, "Apple sux, Android FTW."

Others have said that Apple is a bandwagon and a "special club." I would argue that Android is the new bandwagon, at least in terms of PhoneArena commenters. It's "cool" to hate on Apple and not see the benefits. (see my separate comment on device vs ecosystem on this post)

Pretty sure I have been a "coherent user that uses facts and doesnt throw insults every 5 seconds like a baby." And I think the Android bullies and gloaters could really take some of that advice.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:26 4

33. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

There has been a bit of a movement to get away from the crap and ugly attacks and get a little more to debates. But I will say this: At the risk of being attacked, Android supporters have recently been the more aggresive bunch. Yes, I know Taco and Gallito tend to pick a fight or two, but there are so many Android supporters calling them out at every opportunity. I posted recently I think the Miz has gone from a good humored Apple homer to a bitter Apple supporter due to attacks on him as a person. Go back and read his earlier posts- he was a very amusing read. This is not Android central, it is not an Apple site. It is a tech site. If you do not want to read an opposing view, why are you here? If someone posts something you know is garbage, why encourage him or her by picking a fight? I will disagree with someone in a heartbeat. But I will never take a shot at them as a person.

I like my Phone Arena community. Just need to be a little more tolerant.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:27 1

34. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

I didnt say there werent ANY iOS users that were coherent, it just lacks in that department. Sorry vette, you didnt enter my mind at all when making that statement.. which proves my original point that many iOS users are afraid to post because of the stain that taco, gallito, and them leave on the iOS side. While speaking of iOS users, I had them in mind. They spout so much divisive vitriol and BS, that naming 5 other iOS regular posters is quite difficult. Outside of the normal BS posted by taco, miz, gallito,and gemini.. there is what... ayephoner, you.. and who else that are "main" posters that make coherent points?

" I knew it was bad when there was a story about Microsoft and posters here were actually saying that Microsoft and Windows Phone 7 was better than iOS.." (jeffdabeat)

My point was the bashing is on both sides of the isle... ALL THE TIME. Instead of crying about 1 side, and one side only, make a point about both or ignore it.
And again, most of the anti iOS vitriol is in direct repsonce to something idiotic that taco, gallito, and them said. Very rarely comparatively is it said randomly.

Personally, I dislike Apple, the company, and how it is run and what it does more than i dislike the OS. The OS, like any other has many positives and negatives depending on your view of things. Hopefully under new leadership some of Apple's major negatives will be fixed over time.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:29 3

36. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

we all get excited and dive in the fanboy waters from time to time. That is to be expected. Its those that live in those waters and refuse to come out that present the problems on the boards.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:33 1

37. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

ahh.. i forgot to comment on the quote i posted.. lol.

i ment to put in preferring one OS to another is not hate.. its preference. Hate would be blanket statements like "all androids crash and have horrible battery life".. or "all iphones suck"

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 09:55

41. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

nop because you are a coward that will find your way back.. dont play me for a fool.... but soo far you are losing.. have you seen the iphone4S sales lately... but i know you will backpedal.. like always.. be a man first before betting with me...

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 10:06 2

45. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I think things go back and forward, I was bashed because I asked how serious the GPS issue was on the iPhone. we See android hate on a Bada article and android is copying apple because the razr does not have a removable battery and because the nexus does not have an SD card slot so they are ripping of apple's IP, even when android has a pretty accurate voice recognition, it was dimmed to be 50% accurate compared with siri. and when its said that android plans on steeping up their voice recognition its flagged as trying to copy apple again.

with some people you simply can enjoy an OS either way.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 10:27 1

48. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

there is a reason your one of the idiots i constantly bring up.

You do realize the bet is for Q1 2012.. that would be jan-feb-march.. lol. That has nothing to do with right now. Right now the iphone is performing well due to its initial sales bump that all iphones and most phones in general get. It wont have that sales bump in Q1 2012, so please educate yourself... no better yet, take the bet.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 11:41 3

69. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

ANY reason in the world why you would jump in here and make everyone's point easier?? Calling someone a coward or a fool over TECH while posting nameless and faceless is what we can do without. You could have made your points without your slams. I never thumbs down anyone for making a statement I disagree with. I save it for insecure posters who cannot manage to bolster their argument without breaking out playschool antics. If we were on the playground and climbing the monkey bars, you would hide behind the sea-saw and push someone off from behind, gallitoking.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 11:42 3

70. Soulmanager11 (Posts: 26; Member since: 04 May 2011)

I'm with you on this one. I love Apple and iOS period. I also own an Atrix and can said that I like android but prefer iOS over anything on the market right now. I'm not afraid to say that the Nexus w/ ICS looks pretty cool. The reason I don't comment on tech sites all the time is that this hatred for whatever phone or OS people choose is getting really ignorant and mostly old. Nobody here is paying my cellphone bill or giving me $$$$$ to buy a new phone. Choices people!!! And I'm bias towards iOS but you don't see me criticizing people for their choice of brands. Let's have conversations without disrespecting others. (Taco, The Miz, Galli, Remix etc........)

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 12:03

72. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

even in those there was some trolling by fandroids, but a lot less

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 12:05 1

73. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Dude you blindly bash Apple all day and troll their articles.

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