Poll results: Flagship life cycle - Would a 6-month time frame prove too short?
0. phoneArena 12 Jun 2014, 04:48 posted on
There have been various indications that the industry is slowly transitioning towards a shorter-than-ever flagship release cycle, and if the oft-rumored Samsung Galaxy F is indeed real, that would cement that notion...
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12. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Ask blackberry, they will sell old bb 7 os device for new. That's called preserving value.
14. vincelongman (Posts: 4159; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Hopefully, Project Ara will fix this
I like the idea of just swapping various parts as I want, instead of replace the whole thing every time
Also, remember you don't need the lasted and greatest, most people don't even upgrading once a year
2. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2071; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I think the yearly release would suffice, instead of the half yearly. In any case, most OEMs are releasing about two or even three flagship like phones per year. Eg: Samsung with their "S" flagship and their Note flagship, LG with their "G" flagship and their G Pro device, HTC with their One flagship and One max phablet, Nokia with their 9xx flagship, their camera centric flagship and probably the 15xx phablet phone and Sony with two "Z" branded flagships in a year.
20. KillerKeyboard (Posts: 344; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
Whatever and whenever they would release a new soc, oems would make phones with them. If Qualcomm would release 3 chips a year, there would be 3 "flagship" phones a year also. Somehow they can dictate this phase. You get the picture. :D
22. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I consider we were lucky that Qualcomm and other ARM CPU and also LCD manufacture innovate at lightning speed. Otherwise, we still using single core ARM 11 with 640p 4" and 512MB ram as our flagship.
Even if you can't afford to upgrade twice a year, you should be happy that 2 years after, you got a 4 generation upgrade that will make your old phone seems very outdated. Or you could just buy iphone got very small increment every year.
23. KillerKeyboard (Posts: 344; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
I didn't say it's bad, and what you said is right. In fact I like it that way, too.
5. FingerMyApple (unregistered)
As long as the previous flagship resale value did not erode much, who cares?
That way I can sell previous flagship with higher price than other oem's flagship and buy the new one, pay less yet updated :)
Call me sheep all you want, iPhone's high resale value is the reason why I can afford enough to queue the latest model :)
28. andynaija (Posts: 865; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Hey I really have a feeling that you might be wendygarret reincarnated in a new account. :)
29. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
And that girls avatar
Something fishy, and not right.
Let's wait till next week if she changes her view and starts to like Android, Samsung. ...
Wth, you will line up to buy Apple's medicore, subpar products. ... lmao.
6. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1171; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
I'm surprised some people still care of when manufacturers should release there phone. More options is always better and the slightly older phones will become cheaper to. If people prefer waiting for 1 year then they should skip the first 6 months and wait another 6 months, while the rest have the option to buy the latest phone even though it's just a minor upgrade. But then again the flagships from 2013 is not much of an upgrade in 2014. People might as well wait every 2 years.
8. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I don't understand with american thinking. What's wrong of having not the latest greatest phone. Do they upgrade everytime their TV manufacture made a new TV, do they upgrade they care each time there were a full (or minor) model change?
If they don't have too much money to afford the best living standard, they shouldn't bitching having a one or two generation behind.
10. mistertimi (Posts: 77; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Right on Jason! The only reason people care is because they're sad enough that after 6ish months their phone isn't the newest shiniest thing around lol. Thankfully those of us who have finished high-school don't have this problem and appreciate that even if a new phone is out in 6 months, it doesn't make my phone any worse lol. Simple logic prevails, it's just a shame it requires a certain level of maturity!
7. Bozzor (Posts: 170; Member since: 02 May 2012)
Come on, does it really matter how long your phone is "top dog"? Think of it like this: when you decide to buy a new phone and pay the money, you see that the phone meets your needs at that point in time. But if something better comes along in 6 months, does that mean you have wasted your money? Of course not: for six months you have had your needs met...and you will continue to have the same performance for as long as you keep that handset. It's not as if you suddenly become impotent when a new phone comes out!
24. mrmessma (Posts: 172; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I wholeheartedly agree with this. However, as I tried to dig deeper, I think that it's about software more than hardware. The higher the gen your phone is behind the latest and greatest, the less likely you are to get upgrades to the OS. But, again, that still doesn't invalidate anything you said. Wanting the latest and greatest software isn't any less whiny than hardware.
26. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
software is the same as hardware. not owning the latest software is also ok. Your phone still functioning the way as you buy it. You don't upgrade your VCR/dvd/blueray firmware or Air Conditioner firmware, or tv firmware or microwave firmware or adsl/cable modem firmware or printer driver or scanner driver.
30. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
No, it's not. Else the huge market share Vista has wouldn't be a problem. Old soft = more vulnerabilities = easier for me to hack your stuff.
11. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
If human kind afraid of advancement will make their tools absolute, we might be still living in a cave and chasing animal for dinner.
13. surethom (Posts: 612; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
It already takes most companies longer than 6 months to update to the new version, this would make it even longer.
15. eldyagustius (Posts: 177; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)
For Android smartphones, it's kinda too short. The processor capabilities grown so fast and OEM wanted to implement it. And after a year, they ditch their 1-year-old flagships with no more updates. I knew that some people could just change their phones twice a year, but the satisfactory of people buying the expensive flagship is too short, compared with buying notebooks and game consoles which price is relatively quite similar. I'm sure everyone want to be satisfied longer with their flagships.
17. AstronautJones (Posts: 303; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
When I buy something, my satisfaction is based on how well it meets my expectations. As long as it meets my needs, I am happy.
Look around the world and see how bad some people have it. If you want to whine because someone else has a better phone than you after 6 months, get a life
18. LikeMyself (Posts: 435; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
So I guess the 24% are people who are a little retarded!
21. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
the 24% is just a people who don't have money but very wise, or have lots of money and changing phone faster than changing girl friend.
19. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I'd say every 8 months 6 months phones are releasing too damn fast after we just bought one.
25. techguyone (Posts: 199; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Considering phone contracts are 2 years mostly, it's laughable having a 6 mth cycle.
27. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
In asia, we don't buy phone on contract. WE PAY FULL PRICE!!!! WE DON'T WHINE, and we have shorter upgrade cycle than in USA.
31. tokuzumi (Posts: 946; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
We are getting to the point of diminishing returns on smartphone upgrades. Each year, phones would have significant differences, and you noticed those differences immediately. Now, everything seems to be more of a sidegrade. Oh look, a 0.1" increase in screen size. The G2 had the snapdragon 800. Now it has the 801. While it is faster, it's not going to be a noticeable difference, unless you are clicking the same apps on both phones at the same time. HTC learned their lesson the hard way, back in 2011/2012 about releasing flagship phones every few months.
32. Canaan (Posts: 331; Member since: 25 May 2014)
6 months is way too soon, especially in the U.S. With their 2 year contract plans. Besides upgraded chips aren't always that much of an improvement. Is it really worth paying hundreds to upgrade from the snapdragon 800 to the snapdragon 801?
33. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
That's the point. If the company wait for 1 year upgrade cycle, that mean if you buy new phone 10 months after the release, you got 10 months old phone that will be absolute in 2 months.
But... You don't have to upgrade to every new released flagship. You can skip one or two or three or four flagship. But whenever someone buy a new phone at any time, that person will have THE BEST flagship at that time.