Piper Jaffray: Apple iPhone models retain more value than the top Samsung Galaxy models
0. phoneArena 14 May 2013, 22:34 posted on
Investment firm Piper Jaffray has debuted its iPhone resale value index which is currently showing that the Cupertino based tech titan's iconic smartphone loses its value at half the rate at which Samsung's top models depreciate; the report uses eBay auction prices for the Apple iPhone 5, Apple iPhone 4S, Apple iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S III and the Samsung GALAXY Note II to gauge consumer demand for a particular device...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
6. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
I dont know but Allen needs to make up his mind. First he calls the iPad a Piece Of S hit now hes saying it holds its value really well. He needs to stop drinking and typing.
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 5823; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Noticed that too but with all the PA writers.
14. quakan (Posts: 1064; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
We know, you just wanted to be first, right?
25. dangchitrung (Posts: 55; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
no. what the helll is special about the first to post?
i have used Note. I have been usine Note 2 and I'm waiting for the 3 man.
I do not worry that my used ones will be worth $300 of $320.
23. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
This is a good thing for me. It proves how much people want one. So, when i want a specific phone subsidized to go along with a data plan, and the specific phone i want is not offered by the carrier i prefer.
I buy that specific phone I wanted unlocked at full price, sign up a data plan with the iPhone subsidized (which is available on every carrier here), use the data plan on my unlocked phone i bought, and sell the iPhone at full price, probably 50$ lower than market price (like, if an unlocked model goes for $799, i sell it at $749), and the iDiots will definitely take the offer in a short period.
In my country phones subsized by carriers are not locked, so, you can swap the sim card easily onto other phones.
I have no idea how fans of iPhone think... Even the 3 year old iPhone 4 has a very high price and buying some newer mid-end phones at the same price has specs miles ahead of iPhone 4.
2. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This is news? Its been this way since the orig iPhone.
8. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Or maybe because iphones feel premium and run smoother and have better cameras and have more powerful gpus along with better games collection in appstore.
Believe it or not, samsung phones feel worse than chinese crap. And there is no difference between low end, midrange and high end phones when it comes to design or build materials.
If i hand you a s3 and a s3 mini, could you really tell the difference if it werent for the size?
12. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Holding a Note 2 right now. Feels pretty d@mn good to me. As a person who uses the both, the differences in "games collection" is so minimal, it makes that comment funny!
The iPhone is a good phone, but it has a better resale value because it's an iPhone. Not because it's better at anything. People want what they think is popular and the iPhone is the popularity contest winner for sure. Even the lowly HTC Rhyme was a better phone that the iPhone IMO.
And yes, the S3 and S3 mini look alike, but is that really a point for Apple when they've had only 3 designs for the last 6 years?
16. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
"but it has a better resale value because it's an iPhone."
this is exactly what i mean. iPhones are know for their quality BECAUSE they are better at some things I mentioned above. This is exactly why they are popular - they made reputation by premium quality and smooth, user friendly interface.
iPhones arent famous because god said "let them be famous" lol.
And yes, Apple has had only 3 designs in last 6 years, but atleast the designs are GOOD. SS, on the other hand, chose a CRAPPY design on the first place and is using it over and over again!!
19. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
When asked what they like about the iPhone, almost no one brings up the GPU, smoothness or the resale value. The reasons I've always gotten were, "It's cool." or "It has a lot of apps" or "My friend has one and I like it". They are better at some things, but that list gets shorter and shorter with ever new Samsung, HTC, Nokia, and even Blackberry device that gets released.
Crappy design is a matter of opinion. I love the look of my Note 2, but I fall instantly asleep at the mear sight of an iPhone, it bores me just that much. That tiny little slab does feel good in the hand, but this Note feels much better. SS should make some different designs, but I like what the S and Note series devices look like.
21. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 May 2013)
When i am asking my rich cousins why they like Iphone.. They can't say anything.. and i look so stupid talking to them whenever i mention PPI, Amoled, slcd3, bravia engine, s600, exynos, benchmarks, gorlla glass3, camera comparisons, website reviews etc etc..
it is the brand! Almost all the celebrities appearing on the media stuffs will show iphone..
30. iami67 (Posts: 308; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Iphone has a better resale vaule cause its made of cheap glass and break easy. People replace there broken product more often. People also when realize that they purchased junk want to sell the junk. People with s3 and notes keep there phone for yrs. Whateverman is right about the popularity vote. Just cause its popular dont mean its better. Its like voting for sr class president the most popular kid wins not the best kid for the job. People are sh==p and afraid to be diferent. That and the fact that yes iphone was first smart phone so if you purchase itunes your stuck with apple. Another reason i will never get apple. They lock you in for life by ripping you off with there sneaky gimmicks
22. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1616; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Run smoother...haha the same old apple insult but hate to disappoint you project butter cleared that all up! Better cameras...don't make me laugh just look at the test on this website...s3 wins!...may have more powerful gpus's but who cares about that when s3 and note 2 and s4 beat iPhone in every benchmark...and App Store...hate to disappoint you but google is only a bit behind and there is virtually no difference
29. iami67 (Posts: 308; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Raunak you really have no clue what your talking about do you. The iphone is cheap glass def not premium feeling at all. Slow processor some of the games made for it dont even run right anymore so def does not run smoother and better camera what are you smoking. everytime i see someone take a pic with a iphone it takes 5 secs to snap the shot and then the pic looks blurry. Everytime i see a pic posted on facebook i can tell by the blurryness it was taken by iphone. The new android can take 15 pics in the same time a iphone takes one. And unless you 80 even a 5 yr old can tell the def between a s3 and a s3 mini. The real question is can you tell the difference between a iphone 4 and a iphone 5 besides screen size
4. tadaa (Posts: 170; Member since: 18 Apr 2013)
Why still follow gene munster? Haven't you told us already that this guy is a fanalyst and that we should not take too seriously what he says?
5. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 229; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
You don't need an analyst to know that Android phones fail in retaining value. That's a known fact.
7. iushnt (Posts: 376; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
yaa that's true but I think that won't retain long for iphone..If they(Apple) don't make killer products anymore then their value will decrease much more..Their latest flagship(ip5) started to decline more due to lower demand and sales compared to s3..i know fans will argue that iphone sells more..its true iPhone 5 have impressive sales but still it has not outsold s3..I don't care throwing money at galaxy top ends because they are so worth compared to iPhone.but thats my personal choice according to my needs..i have used iphone 3g, 3gs, 4, ipod 2g, 3g and 4 and ipad personally but I got bored and switiching to galaxy models made me feel much worth..
31. iami67 (Posts: 308; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I still do not know where people get there stats. Yr to date 70% of smartphone sold are android. Only people that come in for iphones are little girls and old people. Little girls want the hello kitty case and the coach case and for old people they are great cause there arent a lot of options on an iphone. Androids or to much like real computers for old people
9. bfuller2006 (Posts: 15; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Im tired of people saying iphones run better i had an iphone 4s and i have an ipad 3 both runs slow a lot especially if im playing a game and a notification pops up
13. Whateverman (Posts: 3150; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I know what you mean. I still have an original iPad... Can you imagine?
10. Dingy_cellar_dweller (Posts: 169; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
iphone must be the only thing in the world that doesn't go down in value when its used.
What I want to know is if iphone are so good, why do people buy new ones?
15. quakan (Posts: 1064; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
The same reason YOU upgrade when your contract is up every two years...
11. tiara6918 (Posts: 1199; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
That's why the iPhone continues to sell well, it's because of its value. People choose iPhone to show it off because it is the more expensive handset compared to other smartphones
18. quakan (Posts: 1064; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
I don't think the average consumer is buying because of its monetary value. They buy based on preference and influence. Also, the iPhone isn't really more expensive. The latest iPhone will cost the consumer $199 USD with a two-year contract like most flagships and of course keep in mind that there are other flagships that go for more at initial launch. While it is nice to know that your smartphone will retain most of its retail value 2 years from now, the thought of reselling something you are planning to buy or something you have recently purchased doesn't cross the mind of your average consumer.
17. Meleagru (Posts: 81; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)
And I guess there is no correlation between the recent release of the S4 and the steeper price drop in Galaxy models ? If you're going to do a price comparison, do it over a year. Phone launches are seasonal and they do affect the resale value.
24. FlushGordon (unregistered)
To the mind of the gullibles,YES, the iPhone retains more value...
26. Equilibrium (Posts: 18; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
This is because apple sets the prices for iPhones and DO NOT reduce prices till a new iPhone is released.
It is an artificial way to keep depreciation down and its disappointing that so many people still believe that it is worth the price.
Bottom line you can get a Galaxy S3 or a Lumia 920 unlocked for a lower price than an iPhone 4s unlocked in my country.
Easily explainable and nothing to do with actual depreciation but rather Apple being a stingy (but smart) company.
32. iami67 (Posts: 308; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Agree 100% with Equilibrium Apple the company rips of its customer and they just say please take more of my money. Apple doesnt come down in price because Apple threatens the carriers that if the phones get dicounted you will not be able to sell the product anymore. Why do you think you see android all diferent prices everywhere and apple the same price everywhere. Electronics change so much monthly never mind yearly. Do you think the iphone 5 cost the same today to make as it did the day it came out. No it doesnt. it probs cost Apple 1/3 the price to make now yet they still set it for the same price. Thats called ripping off the unknowldgeable cunsumer and taken advatage of them.
27. gmracer (Posts: 19; Member since: 09 May 2013)
This guy lives in Alice wonderland and I don't care about dropping prices, intelligent people always Choose Android.
28. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5468; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Who cares what this fan analyst thinks. At least the GS III & IV still affordable than the iPhone when buying without contract.