PhoneArena Awards 2013: Best Innovations
3. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Yes, the new S Pen features and BoomSound def deserves a mention here
4. Commentator (Posts: 2615; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
What about the Note 3 would you have mentioned? Or BoomSound?
More features are just... more features, and stereo-speakers are just stereo-speakers.
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the choices PA made, but I wouldn't include either the Note 3 or BoomSound. They're very nice, but not exactly the most innovative.
12. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Well for one, BoomSound maybe a stereo speaker just like Touch ID is a finger print scanner but is implemented better than most phones.
S Pen coz it dives into more characters of using an input other than your finger(i know this sounds wrong lol) and explored an already proven territory(this too damn!! lol)
16. Commentator (Posts: 2615; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
See, it explored a proven territory, more or less like Touch ID did. I don't think either should really be on there, but then again this hasn't really been the most mind-blowing year, tech-wise.
Next year should be interesting though, assuming 64-bit processing takes off.
49. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
+1, I'd go with not much interesting year too. All the phones were minor upgrades on the phones that wowed us last year..
56. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3570; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You have no idea what innovation is.. Hint. Lumia 920, 925, 928, 1020, 1520.
61. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
As a person who has made the #switch I applaud to you, I upgraded from a crappy note 2 to the 808 PureView, Nokia lumia 920, and now I'm typing this from my Lumia 1020, by the way you forgot to mention the 808 PureView man
63. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Please explain how the Note II was crappy because I'd like to know.
64. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
Ridiculous size, amoled, pentile, bloatware, and the ugly Sammy brand.
"Your" Note3 is pretty much the same or even worse.
66. maccess (Posts: 646; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
amoled on the note 2 doesn't even use a pentile.. it uses standard rgb.. "ridiculous size" well yeah off course coz it's a f**king phablet with 5.5" screen dumbass..
67. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
That's solely based on user preference.
My Note 3 is literally perfect. My battery lasts over a day and a half, screen is the perfect size, S-Pen helps me with my job, and feels super solid in my hand. Anything smaller than my Note feels like a toy. Don't even get me started on an iPhone 4/4S/5/5S.
84. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
that's easy, when I first got the note 2 I had been fed the usual gimmicks Samsung loves to advertise on television, I was a gimmick victim without even knowing it. I never even had a chance to properly use nfc with other devices and while I still tried sharing a video the file would still take forever to transfer, something that could have been done through bluetooth on primitive phones. The down road with my note 2 and I began when the phone began to slow, at this I was a little upset, since the quad core exynos was supposed to eliminate lag, but it was all again a gimmick by samsung, and something that upset me was the constant freeze ups where I constantly had to pull the battery out just to get my phone back to work. I previously had a galaxy blaze and didn't have many problems like this. The drop that made the glass spill was when one time I accidentally dropped my phone from my pocket, I'm only 5'6" so it's not like the height from which it fell was higher than 3', with a case on, and once it fell to the ground, the bottom glass chipped off and the whole screen cracked. I had had a galaxy blaze 4G, an htc glacier, sony ericsson xperia x10, even an phone 3gs and none of them had ever cracked, at least not on the first drop (the iphone cracked on the nth drop, only phone to ever crack on me before sammy's plastic, but nothing else). I could not believe this, since the gorilla glass was supposed to be a game changer, it was even more upsetting to see my mother's lumia 810 get thrown to the ground on purpose by my baby sister and see the phone bounce, for her to pick it up again and play farm frenzie like if nothing had happened. Another thing is that this phone that I once diminnished actually took even better pictures than my note 2, while the megapixel quantity was the same it was probably the carl zeiss, I'm not entirely sure, but the pictures were still, and less foggy than mine. This was a turning point for me, since I had never actually considered the built quality on a phone and always went with what I thought was the most important, leaving quality and durability off the table when selecting a phone, and so I began my research. I sold my cracked note 2 on the cheap, refused to do an insurance claim and so I did my research, and since taking pictures was becoming a big part of me I decided to do homework on the nokia 808 pureview and could not be happier. I hate for never having given nokia a chance in the past and always going with that people are trending to. I recently upgraded from the 808 Pureview to the Lumia 1020, and it's not because there's something wrong with the phone, but mainly because I need LTE, I okayed with my mother's Lumia 920 for a month and fell in love with it, but pictures weren't the same, so I was so close of giving up on my 808 Pureview solely for LTE but then I heard nokia was bringing their 808 Pureview camera to the Lumia line, with LTE. I currently rock my Lumia 1020 like a champ and it's a happy ending.
62. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
It's pretty obvious you're a WP fanboy.
74. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3570; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
What's wrong with liking WP, and believing it's the better choice over other devices❔ Why do you think that's a bad thing.. I give Android, and iOS credit where credit is due, so I think I have the right to say that I prefer WP, and I think it's the best.. Fanboi❔ That's a lame term that someone who can no longer support their argument uses..
80. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Nothing is wrong with it, but claiming every model Nokia dished out is innovative makes your post invalid.
85. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
yeah that is not true, there's absolutely nothing innovative about the Asha line, however every nokia flagship has been inspirational for other OEMs
17. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Let's see - S-Pen?
HTC One - BoomSound
Be a hater all you want, but if you don't consider this anything, I don't know what to tell you.
22. jellmoo (Posts: 756; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Are either of them really innovations of 2013 though? Both are more along the lines of improvements to existing innovations. Both are great, don't get me wrong, but they weren't really unique to 2013.
Granted, I would say the same thing about the fingerprint scanner...
I think an honourable mention should go to having core apps being updated via the Play Store rather than solely through OS updates. Getting those goodies in the hands of users quickly is a great step.
37. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
I don´t think that "core apps" being in play store is good at all, because, once an app is on playstore, google google stop suporting it on AOSP so the future updates of those apps goes closed source and developers can´t get their hands on the app source code to improve it and make new implementations.
As this google policy goes on, will be harder for independent developers to create new apps based on the google ones and Android goes more and more into the close source era, which is completely diferent from the first goals of Android(an open mobile system)
41. jellmoo (Posts: 756; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
It shouldn't affect developers at all, as they will still have the same access to the APIs that they always did.
It does impact availability through AOSP, but the end result is more of a positive for the casual customer, who likely has no knowledge or care of AOSP anyway. Users get updates a lot quicker, without having to worry about manufacturers and carriers getting involved, which should increase overall satisfaction.
42. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
I´m not talking about APIs, I´m talking about the hole app source code, which get discontinuated after the app goes to play store.
For the end user maybe is better, but not to the entire android comunity that has been created through this years
28. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Dude, I don't know why you're still here, it's quite obvious that this is an Apple-devoted site; Apple could find a way to recycle horse manure into new casing for the iPhone 5SS and PA would say it's "innovation". Anyway, let the bus driver and other iFanatics live in their fantasy; there are a host of other sites devoted to real Android news and some to Android and iOSame.
You forgot the Fingerprint Sensor on the back of the HTC One Max.
In the end, Apple shares are waaay down and their devoted fan base is dwindling; I actually sold my Xoom to a nice young man who said that he was "tired of what he could NOT do on his iPad." True Story.
The only ones sticking to iDevices are older people who are technically challenged!!
29. elitewolverine (Posts: 2624; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
But the s-pen on the note 3 was also something offered in the note 2. Not really innovative 2013 stuff when it was done in 2012...
43. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Proud Note 3 owner using my S-Pen every single day. Got a problem?
65. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
The word "proud" is a problem. A big one.
69. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Just for you.
75. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Some people have way too much time in their hands..
78. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
"Way too much time in their hands..."
Like that can't be done flawlessly in a few, easy taps (probably like 10 seconds, uploaded and all)...
Some people clearly spend too much time hating.
77. andynaija (Posts: 524; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Lol S-Pen really is a cool feature though.
46. Ashoaib (Posts: 2592; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
S pen is more inovative and practical than any of above mentioned innovations.... why not boom sound? It is also more practical then any of above, no manufacturer has paid focus on increasing sound yet which is so sad... if HTC has done so, it should be praised... I dont know why site admins/reviewers feel it compulsory to praise something from apple, no matter how useless that innovation is. Do they dont have education that cost and benefit analysis is so difficult for them? Iphone gives least benefit compare to its cost
60. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
How is the s-pen innovative? I see absolutely no innovation in a built-in stylus in a phone
79. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
C'mon - Read about it and physically try one before posting next time. Oh, wait... this is the internet and you will always win because you say so. Still, won't hurt to try!
Riddle me this: Which other smartphone has an integrated stylus that does what the S-Pen does? It gets better and upgraded every year.
57. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
Was there something innovative about the note 3?
70. darkkjedii (Posts: 13894; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
The note 3 wasn't really about innovation, it was more about the evolution of an innovative product. Refinement, and a few new key features produced a pretty solid 3rd addition.
72. Bernoulli (Posts: 2035; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
By refinement you mean the cover in the back that makes you think it's knitted leather but it's actually plastic?
87. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 684; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
They would probably call fingerprint scanner as innovation by Apple even though it has existed on laptops earlier..
Clearly, touchwiz with S-pen's features (needless to say how many) are not new even though it has not existed on any device (Android/iOS/WP etc)...
Even though it hurts some fans, but the truth is that Samsung has come a long way and is leading innovator at the moment....
We must all appreciate the efforts of all OEMs in the field of innovation/invention and stop petty OEM vs OEM or OS vs OS battles....
5. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
These are not really "innovations". The self healing back is the only one that's a bit interesting.
Anyway, I'm waiting for more awards!
9. quesoesgrande (Posts: 217; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Agreed. These are just things that have already existed and are finally being implemented in smart phones. The Self Healing back is interesting. Touch ID is just another way for someone to break into your precious iphone then buy apps in your name. Coprocessors are cool, but nothing new.
13. cezarepc (Posts: 632; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Self-healing back and co-processors for me.
Attachable lenses from Sony deserves a mention IMO though.
15. Commentator (Posts: 2615; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
This year wasn't exactly filled with innovations. All devices were more-or-less iterative upgrades of their predecessors, with few surprises.
I would've thought Motomaker would make the list though.
47. Chris_Bakke (Posts: 215; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
I think if the full customization was available, more than colors and memory size. while the options are lacking from other companies I can still choose 16 or 32 from other companies or basically black and white from most.
31. androiphone20 (Posts: 1580; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
Innovation is when someone
dares to do something differently and in
a better way instead of sticking to the
status quo. It is when a fresh new idea
improves the overall user experience. It is
when someone brings forth an alternative
concept and proves that it works.
32. androiphone20 (Posts: 1580; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
That needed a little reflection especially when a comment flies off in another direction
36. kryme (Posts: 160; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)
then in that case i think the moto x should be in the top 5 as the only phone that allow real customization
6. VJo003 (Posts: 340; Member since: 11 Mar 2012)
The Prize for Innovative pricing goes to - Nexus 5
11. utg001 (Posts: 31; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
What about the Clearblack? or Pureview? I always thought Apple was ahead on display and camera stuff but Nokia is Nokia.
25. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
The 41 mp "pureview" sensor in 1020 is last year's tech.
14. ravivarma639 (Posts: 20; Member since: 15 Apr 2013)
Ultra pixal camera
This year htc is all about innovation though ther r not 100% perfect
19. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9532; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If its going to be anything in the camera dept. then the Sony Z1 and 1020 get the honorable mention here, not HTC.
23. ravivarma639 (Posts: 20; Member since: 15 Apr 2013)
Yaaa 1020 definitely has the best camera but htc tried something more innovative this time