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PhoneArena Awards 2012: Best Innovation

0. phoneArena 03 Dec 2012, 12:24 posted on

We have to admit it, folks, we aren't that easy to impress. We are a well-trained team of geeks that has laid hands on much more phones than an average Joe can even name. Simply put, we've all been there and we've all done that, as far as phones are concerned. Every once in a while, however, a new product or technology gets announced - something that really make us go "wow". And today, we'll talk about several such solutions: this year's PhoneArena awards begin with the Best Innovation category...

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posted on 23 Dec 2012, 16:44

332. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Mate I debated you, proved you wrong and then made you look the immature fan boy you are, your win comment proved this

You take everything I say and repeat it at me, you can't even come up with your own points. Your the only kid here grow up before trying to debate with us adults. So go be a fan boy elsewhere you have failed to debate to a mature level and now your throwing all you can and grasping at straws.......your no longer amusing

posted on 24 Dec 2012, 08:29

336. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


You dont know the meaning of the word debate. You do know what a fanboy is, you do that very well....I proved that the other day. And you took the bait right on cue...lol. Fanboy....lol. I said you win, because I knew that would make you feel better. It always make fanboys feel better.

The name calling also proved that. You started that, not me. Fanboys resort to name calling when they cant come up with anymore points. Fanboy..

You refuse to see the points I put up. I dissected every reason you put up about the camera being innovation, why I said the camera wasnt innovation vs the projector in a phone in my huge post...and you totally dismiss it as repeating....sad. ALL that was brand new. Another trait of a fanboy.

You have that Nokia phone, so you are automatically biased towards it. I get it. The sad, sad problem is you cant see it yourself. And you are looking amazing foolish. Seriously. I am a HUGE fan of Motorola. You wouldnt be able to tell because I dont lust after it and the company and wanna argue with anyone who says somethings negatove about it or the company. You are defending that Nokia phone like you are a majority investor....lol.

I would advise you to step back, look at all your post defending that phone.....and really do some soul searching.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 22:49

291. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


People just cant stand something really innovative being the top, They dont agree with pureview being the top because they have never used it, Ive used it and i know how awesome it is, Camera is one of the main things i consider when buying my phone, Ive been using Nokias and i know how good they are

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:37

310. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Depends on what one defines as innovative. You feel something thats improved and used by many as innovative. I feel something thats unique is innovative.

There are times when I feel something thats improved on is innovative. Just not for this list.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 21:23

112. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


The projector phone got #2 because there were projector phones before, but now it is actually decently executed and in a decent device. Innovative, yes, but not as amazingly so as PureView tech. Don't forget what phone won the CES and numerous other awards for its truly groundbreaking developments, and it wasn't a Samsung (this time)

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 22:41 2

129. samystic (Posts: 230; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


Indian brands launched many of them and failed before Beam

samystic

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 21:45 1

289. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


totally agree with you! these people cant understand it!!

the s-features are just add ons or just some improvement...nothing so special about it or nothing that is really new...

did there crappy s3/note2/nexus4/iphone camera can take the god of all cameraphone the 808?

gosh...these people...they dont understand the basic concept of innovation!

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 22:58 1

293. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


Yeah MC1123, they are just sad that samsung isnt at the top.. If somehow samsung had something like pureview , everyone will praise it im sure about that.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 23:51

297. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


lol... ikr... but the fact is that..even samsung isnt good at making a camera! a compact or a DSLR!

their new galaxy camera only excell with its optical zoom against 808PV..but it looses the picture quality that 808 PV dont! and it dont have that awesome loseless zooming and rich recording!

thats why i think only sony and nokia can make good camera phone!

and the one that is powering the iPhone's camera is a sony sensor!

posted on 07 Dec 2012, 00:19 1

298. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


Totally agree with you, sammy isnt a pro like Nokia or sony at cameras :) and yes Sound recording on pureview phones is totally amazing, these people havent even seen Nokia pureview cams im sure

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 13:54 3

36. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


"Innovation is not just launching a new handset with a slightly larger screen or a marginally faster processor"

Innovation is a handset with a better camera! LOL JK

I really hope the nokia is as good as they say it is

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:59 1

81. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I didnt know that was from the article...You have a valid point and if you were joking, I agree...lol.

So...how is improved camera technology any different than new screens and new processors? Hasnt camera technology improved over the years? Like screens and processors? They have the Samsung projector phone listed...and the Nokia camera technology beats it out?

I am willing to bet if you showed both technologies to ppl, more ppl would be amazed by the projector phone.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 21:31 1

114. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Projector phones aren't new. Being able to use a stock phone to zoom in on someone's face from across the length of a football field with no discernable loss of quality is stunning. Even more so because it is still a good phone and pocketable (though the bump is noticeable). Furthermore, you need to keep the pico lens very clean and protected otherwise that feature is useless.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 23:04 1

294. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


By the "better camera" there they mean the more pixels, not the technology. This is not only about the 808, this is about pureview, So theres a list loseless zoom, oversampling , OIS.. etc, This isnt just a improvement , its vast.. Most other companies imporve the camera by just adding a few more mega pixels..

Oh theres no point explaining to you, you are just mad that nokia is at top and sammy is 3rd.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:39

311. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Has nothing to do with the brand. Dont assume because I dont agree with something that I'm a fanboy. Speaking strictly about the innovations on the list.

I actually dont like Samsung phones....something you might have known if you read thru the comments here instead of assuming.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:00 8

38. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


But I thought Apple was the most innovative company on the planet!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:39 5

58. kickgolfer (Posts: 69; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)


that's cuz they've patent the words like "innovative" and "most"

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:48 1

77. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Extra screen length is not innovative, nor same design, and same UI. Apple is smart though. Why change something sells.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 22:21 1

120. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


For Apple it's extra but for Android and WP 16:9 has been the standard

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:10 5

40. Fallout09 (Posts: 421; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


My nominations would be 5 row of icons, 4 inch screen, making the first smart phone to have an additional noise canceling mic and take panarama pictures.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:05 6

52. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I disagree. I think inferior mapping software, redesigned charging/data ports, and winning patent disputes should have made the list.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 13:37

327. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)


Yeah, but hasn't Samsung won a couple of those disputes over Apple. Maybe, it should be "starting patent disputes" instead.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 22:01 1

116. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


IPhone didn't have the first panoramic photos in a phone. That's been on other platforms for years.
Noise cancelling mics have been the norm for probably around a decade by now. The iphone just has another one up high if I recall correctly (toralling 3), finally making it not a total waste of a phone (emphasis).
4 inch screen, you're joking right?

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 11:26 1

166. Fallout09 (Posts: 421; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Yes, Apple has no innovation.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:32

46. kirholstov (Posts: 146; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


I'd say MacBook Pro Retina

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:33 1

47. kirholstov (Posts: 146; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Maybe wireless charging?

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:34 4

49. Guarulhos (Posts: 39; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


Achievement More Than Just No Device On Planet Innovated More Than 808 PureView Pro !

Congratulations Nokia For Pioneering And Innovation !

P.S: Nokia 808 PureView (__Abyss__) All Other Mobile Planet With Integrated Digital Camera !!!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:00 1

51. ilia1986 (unregistered)


My list:

Lumia 920 screen - ability to use a capacitive screen while wearing gloves.

Galaxy S3 Smart-stay and smart-stay-like apps - never been done before.

Android 4.2 photosphere - also never been done before.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 11:38 2

168. nwright94 (unregistered)


Read Microsoft photosynth app that was available long before android 4.2

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:34 3

55. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Well deserved, the 808 blows the Galaxy Camera to smithereens in picture quality, and it qualifies for Smart Camera too with all around better shooting performance in a much smaller body. A total winner.

2nd place I'd give to the Note 2, Airview, multi-window, smart stay (already in the S3), pretty awesome features.

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