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PhoneArena Awards 2012: Best Innovation

0. phoneArena 03 Dec 2012, 12:24 posted on

We have to admit it, folks, we aren't that easy to impress. We are a well-trained team of geeks that has laid hands on much more phones than an average Joe can even name. Simply put, we've all been there and we've all done that, as far as phones are concerned. Every once in a while, however, a new product or technology gets announced - something that really make us go "wow". And today, we'll talk about several such solutions: this year's PhoneArena awards begin with the Best Innovation category...

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posted on 04 Dec 2012, 20:33 2

188. samystic (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


innovation is bringing something new to masses... evolution is upgrading existing things... that is layman's understanding of these terms... and since 808 not just has 41 MP sensor, it also has other technology which has been never used before... so yes it is an innovation

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 10:06 7

210. kickgolfer (Posts: 69; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)


This Sammy troll rocks the iphone.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 13:48 7

34. nerd_of_the_street (banned) (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)


for me innovation is: introducing something remarkeble and leaving your competitor far behind.

those S-features are mehhhh, nothing special bout it... partly sofware gimmick

but a 41mpx is mind blowing comparing to the average 5-8mpx from competitor

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:22 3

74. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


If thats the case, you would agree with me that the Samsung projector phone shoulda been #1. To me improved camera technology is....meh. Thats called progress.

How many other phones have a built in projector?

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:31

75. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


no the projector should be #2 the camera tech your saying meh too is years ahead of the competition.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:47 2

76. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Again, what other phone has a built in projector? How many phones have cameras?

If we are talking about innovation, to me a very unique feature out weighs an improved feature. And PA said its done well in that Samsung phone.

Like how many ppl felt the Retina Display was sooo innovative. But when Android and Win Mo phones had higher screen res than the iPhone 3G, 3GS, it was no big deal. Thats not innovation, thats progress.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:56

79. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


how many phones have loseless zoom and oversampling

just been unique isnt enough it has to be a leap forward aswell to be #1. pureview takes mobile camera's forward by a big way.

why are you pushing so hard for something samsung to be top, the projector never really caught on either its still in its infancy. and before anyone says it i would love a good projector phone but right now there not ready for the mainstream

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 18:04 6

82. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Why am I pushing so hard? Its called an opinion. Why are you pushing hard for something Nokia to be top?

Its called an opinion.

And in my opinion.....the projector phone was a bigger leap than the camera technology in the Nokia phone. PA even mentioned it was done well. See, just because it didnt catch on doesnt mean it wasnt innovative. Popularity doesnt mean more or less innovative.

We just have different opinions of whats innovative.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 18:12

85. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


''PA even mentioned it was done well''

well P.A said the 808 was more innovative, so why will you accept they said the projector was done well but wont accept the 808 is more innovative when they say

mainly though the 808 was something that pushed boundaries and set the bar for mobile camera's. it amazed alot of people too with the 41mp sensor

the projector phone is a great concept but needs more work to be what it undoubtably can be.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 19:05 6

103. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


No, I cant accept it....because I dont think its more innovative than a projector in a phone....lol.

I agree with some of the article, not all of it.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 21:23

112. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


The projector phone got #2 because there were projector phones before, but now it is actually decently executed and in a decent device. Innovative, yes, but not as amazingly so as PureView tech. Don't forget what phone won the CES and numerous other awards for its truly groundbreaking developments, and it wasn't a Samsung (this time)

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 22:41 2

129. samystic (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


Indian brands launched many of them and failed before Beam

samystic

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 21:45 1

289. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


totally agree with you! these people cant understand it!!

the s-features are just add ons or just some improvement...nothing so special about it or nothing that is really new...

did there crappy s3/note2/nexus4/iphone camera can take the god of all cameraphone the 808?

gosh...these people...they dont understand the basic concept of innovation!

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 22:49

291. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


People just cant stand something really innovative being the top, They dont agree with pureview being the top because they have never used it, Ive used it and i know how awesome it is, Camera is one of the main things i consider when buying my phone, Ive been using Nokias and i know how good they are

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 22:53 1

292. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


lol jroc74 , who uses a projector more than a camera on a phone? you really havent used a pureview camera.. beam might be innovation for you, but i guess a majority loves a good camera like pureview.. even surveys show that 85% of smartphone users use the camera the most.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 22:58 1

293. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


Yeah MC1123, they are just sad that samsung isnt at the top.. If somehow samsung had something like pureview , everyone will praise it im sure about that.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 23:51

297. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


lol... ikr... but the fact is that..even samsung isnt good at making a camera! a compact or a DSLR!

their new galaxy camera only excell with its optical zoom against 808PV..but it looses the picture quality that 808 PV dont! and it dont have that awesome loseless zooming and rich recording!

thats why i think only sony and nokia can make good camera phone!

and the one that is powering the iPhone's camera is a sony sensor!

posted on 07 Dec 2012, 00:19 1

298. lolol (Posts: 64; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)


Totally agree with you, sammy isnt a pro like Nokia or sony at cameras :) and yes Sound recording on pureview phones is totally amazing, these people havent even seen Nokia pureview cams im sure

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:34

309. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Again, not talking whats used the most. Just what I feel is more innovative. I feel a unique feature is more innovative than an improved one.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:37

310. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Depends on what one defines as innovative. You feel something thats improved and used by many as innovative. I feel something thats unique is innovative.

There are times when I feel something thats improved on is innovative. Just not for this list.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:41

312. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


losless zoom, over sampling and almost noiseless photos not unique? the fact your phone can take full res 34 and 38mp photo's not unique? having a 41mp sensor on your phone not unique? the fact even with that big sensor its still not about the megapixel count its how it uses them.

been the best cameraphone and by miles not innovative enough? just accept what many others admit the 808 is innovation and will hopefully pave the way for even more advances in mobile camera tech (started with the 920 already). this isnt just a one off innovation its started a chain of what could be incredible mobile cameras

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 19:02

313. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Thats all well n good....but its not more unique than a projector in a phone. Name another phone that has a projector in it. Now name another phone that has a camera in it.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 23:00

314. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


yeah there are other projector phones, most been chinese unknown things but they exist.

Spice M9000 Popkorn
Micromax X40

theres 2 for you, so blows your unique argument out the water.

now you name another phone with lossless zoom, and oversampling. or another phone capable of taking full res 34-38mp photo's

i shall wait for your response lol

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 00:14

315. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Camera vs projector:

Better camera specs...evolution

400x800 screen res vs 1080p screen res....evolution

single core cpu vs dual core cpu...evolution

Projector....unique.

We are never gonna see eye to eye on this...

You are speaking of improved specs.. . Those phones you listed....have never heard of them. And most ppl havent. The specs you listed for the camera.....never in a phone....but in cameras.

Unique. I will stick to the projector shoulda been #1 vs improved camera specs.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 00:21

316. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


You are speaking about improved specs...I'm speaking of an entire spec all its own. Zoom exists in camera phones, losses didnt. Oversampling.....might as well lump that in with white balance, cropping, grey scale, etc.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 00:27

317. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I think whats happening....you must value the camera features in a phone. Or you may choose/not choose a phone based on the camera. I dont. The camera is the least used feature on my phones.

If thats the case.....this will be a never ending argument.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 00:45

318. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Like I said....do we say single core vs dual core vs quad core is innovative vs a projector in a phone? Do we say 400x800 vs 1080p screen res is innovative vs a projector in a phone? You keep mentioning improved specs....I'm talking about an entire feature.

We have different ideas of whats innovative in this case. It is what it is.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 08:00

319. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


ok now your just ignoring the fact i proved your precious projector phone isnt unique and been a petty crying fanboy

the fact you still think its unique shows you never read my comment, instead you just thumbed me down and repeated yourself. you havent answered anything put to you

one more time slowly for your little mind

lossless zoom on a phone-unique
oversampling on a phone- unique
able to take 34-38mp full res photo's on a phone- unique

a 41mp sensor on a phone-unique and still pretty unbelievable

this is beyond evolution, its unique and as you seem to think unique is key then ive proved the pureview is number 1 on the list and rightly so

now your projector phone

here are 2 other projector phones:

Spice M9000 Popkorn
Micromax X40

so your precious phone isnt unique

are you getting it now?

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 08:04

320. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


mate last time as your so dense its unbelievable the projector phone isnt unique so it slams your whole point.

you really love the projector phone dont you, even android fans have admitted the 808 wins this. your a seriously bad fanboy if you can just accept it. you cant even put a reasonable case together for your point its just senseless dribble

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 11:20

321. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Dude....stop labeling everybody a fanboy because they dont agree with you. The more you post....the more fanboyish you look.

You ignore why I think you say the camera in the Nokia is best innovation and why I think the projector is best innovation. I have never used either.....its all opinion.

Yours will never change, mine will never change. I dont have to be a fanboy becuse I dont agree with you. Learn what an actual debate is....then we can talk.

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