PhoneArena Awards 2011: Best cameraphone
0. phoneArena 07 Dec 2011, 09:24 posted on
Today, the PhoneArena Awards of 2011 will honor the year's best cameraphone. And the rules are pretty straight-forward – for a device to be pronounced winner in today's category, it needs to be capable of taking excellent shots under a broad range of conditions
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1. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
No HTC Titan? No Nokia phones (they apparently make the best camera's)?
iPhone 4S I'll agree has a great camera, but I'm sure there are better shooters than the Galaxy S2 no?
3. ghost__uwi (Posts: 175; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)
the galaxy s2 is pretty good. iPhone 4s I would agree on.
8. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Nokia N8 is still probably the best Camera Phone on the market (japan may have something better now but not sure) but was released in 2010 so it's right to skip it this time, though certainly worth a mention that as a camera, nothing in 2011 has bettered the 2010 device.
As for other Nokia's, the devices released this year by nokia mostly had EDoF lenses which leads to many debates, but most people prefer an auto-focus lens. The Nokia N9 and Lumia 800 and 710 have Autofocus lens's and the first two have 8MP cameras, comparable to those listed above. The N9 camera has rated slightly better than the 800 camera in reviews I have seen - probably due to image processing software as the hardware is the same, but neither of them are worthy follow ups to the N8, but they are probably about as good as can be got in a thin device.
So it is entirely possible that the phones listed above are better for pictures than anything nokia released this year, but still, the 2010 Nokia N8 rules over all of them.
2012 will be different and the rumour mill for an N8 successor in the works has been churning again, with talk of zoom inn there too.
21. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
Yea, with Nokia behind them, Windows Phones are going to have some pretty epic Camera's in their phones in 2012. I'm excited for it.
Had the pleasure of testing the N9 a few weeks back, and it was better than any current Windows Phone, but certainly not better than the iPhone 4S (though wasn't *that* far off).
Still I've been reading that the HTC Titan has a better camera than the iPhone 4, but not sure if they meant 4S or just 4.
41. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I have not played with the iPhone 4S at all and have had very limited experience with the 4, but I can say my camera loving wife who uses digital photography a ton for both bushiness and hobby and my Daughter who is taking some photography courses and worked in a photo studio until just recently both swear by the Titans camera. (My Daughter prefers Android smartphones, by the way, and wants one once she can pick up the extra cash on the data plan.) The Titan is GREAT at Macro shots, and they both say the interior shots are among the better they have seen in low lighting without a flash.
I can also say my Wife liked both the camera in the AT&T version of the Galaxy S2 a lot, and really liked the shooter in the HTC Rezound over at Verizon.
71. cnpthe3rd (Posts: 75; Member since: 01 Feb 2009)
yes the N8 is STILL by far the best camera on a phone ( i still have not sold mine i hold on to it to this day) but it was not a phone of 2011 first and since it was not offered through any carrier it does not have the "main stream" appeal to put it on their list but i would fear that the iPhone showed based on popular opinion and was on merit
72. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Sorry but the N8 takes crappy pictures. I have two friends who owns them and my Desire HD takes better pictures especially indoors.
If you compete that with any of the following devices, it's going to get left behind in the dust... Better pixels over more pixels, I say.
75. Ixion (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Sorry, but I have made intensive tests between my cameras, including the Desire HD and the N8. The N8 is in another league. The difference between my DSLR and the N8 is less than between the N8 and Desire HD. You might want to print your pictures and take another close look...
38. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
Ok then it's OK. But I know a lot of people who just think about Mpixels is the major reason of a good camera.
42. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I did until just recently. I STILL have no eye for photography, but I have done a lot of reading on lens tech and the way megapixels work with macro settings and cropped shots. A ton of work goes into these cameras, and if you stop to think about it is pretty amazing how far they have come.
I was one of those guys that rolled his eyes and LAUGHED at the thought of a camera in your cell phone back in the day. I mean, come on- who is EVER going to use that??? That is just STUPID......
63. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
Yea well we can't all be noobs here like that ;) But megapixels play a big part in it, it's just not the only part.
65. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
What Nokia phones, barely any good ones made this year...
2. aries.phills (Posts: 140; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I like my galaxy s2 CAMERA SHOTS. Just that the camera takes in a lot of details, including my hidden pimples and spots and I don't have time for picture editing. Well, I like the phone.
4. Martine (Posts: 102; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
And the iPhone 4S dramatically becomes best Camera phone over Nokia N8. iPA must be living in the dream land!
5. hepresearch (unregistered)
The N8 is soooo last year...
7. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
it mught be sooooo last year, but that doesnt mean just bcos it was soooo last year it won't top iphone [im not really saying N8 is better than iPhone 4S, jst the soooo last year statement] #JustAThought
30. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its the best camera phone of 2011, the N8 was a 2010 phone, therefor disqualified.
Im actually surprised that that Sony phone didnt make the list.. everyone was raving about its camera. (sorry forgot the name..lol)
53. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Its the Xperia Arc, I own one, but compared to the SGSII and the iPhone4s based on the comparative tool at GSMarena it sucks! Thats why I would agree that these are the top two 2011 camera phones in the market today. I'm not sure about whose deserves the third spot though. . .
57. Birds (Posts: 1150; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
You idots just need to shut your mouths! Phonearena has stated that the N8 is the best camera phone ever released. They are just talking about the best camera phones released this year. Use common sense people. If you realized anything about the article, it is only talking about PHONES RELEASED THIS YEAR!! And stopped being so biased. So what if the iPhone 4S takes phenomenal pictures. I can guarantee that these android phones will give it a run for its money... Nuff said.
33. andro. (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
the n8 camera is still prob the best camera ive used on a phone to date. the phone itself is neither good nor terrible more just meh...
6. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
Yea N8 was 2010, this is 2011's contest! That still the best overall though!
10. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
I think they should have made mention of it. It's probably the one area of mobile technology where a 2010 device betters anything that came in 2011.
12. hepresearch (unregistered)
agreed, N8 is about the best camera phone we have ever seen here in the States, but it was a product of 2010... DQed from the 2011 award, sadly, in my book.
9. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
I thought as much, there could never be a category here where iPhones doesnt win. when will we ever live in the planer where iPhone never wins anything mobile? [how I wish] #JustMyOpinionNot_A_Fact
28. Nick_T (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 May 2011)
"...there could never be a category here where iPhones doesnt win."
Hmm, how about the worst smartphone category, which is coming in a few days?
32. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
LOL. HHmmmm! Can't w8 to see which phone will win it
35. andro. (Posts: 1994; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
If they did the most faulty phone category than apple would fill all the slots
36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
no, it could definately win that category, nick. if you take away all the fandom, and go by how many problems its had since launch, its definately in the top 2 or 3 worst phones of the year.
51. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Wow you're stupidity never ceases. I can understand people preferring something else but to say iPhone is one of the worst phones when it's clearly top of the line is inexcusable.
52. hepresearch (unregistered)
If believing something that did not turn out to be completely true was inexcusable, we would be living in a world that is full of nothing but inexcusable people...
Fortunately, that is not as inexcusable as some might think. However, it is possible to know the truth for certain, and then to still deny it. We call that lying. I find intentional lying to be inexcusable.
58. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
top of the line and problem free are not the same thing. learn your terms.
64. hepresearch (unregistered)
I was trying to spit out a decent explanation, but remix just posted a better explanation. +1
11. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I'm surprised the Galaxy nexus didn't cone second. I am also shocked to see an HTC smartphone on there even though I support them. if they were going to put an HTC on it should have at least been the Amaze 4G or the Titan.
LOL, the camera on the 4S is just about the only reason to upgrade.
13. harsh_732006 (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
wtf...no N9 and lumia800....nor do they have sony ericsons exmor r sensor phones..:(
15. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Welcome to iPhonearena.com #StillLove_iPhoneButLetTheTruthBeTold
37. Eventhorizon (Posts: 6; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
The Nokia N9 and the Lumia 800 are not sold in the North American market. Nokia shows no love to North America. They will try to cram the WP7 devices down out throats, won't work unless it's a super spec device. I have a Dell Venue pro running Mango. It's such a boring OS, with your choice of 10 colors tiles. Thats about it for customization.
14. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
can you guys stop complaining about allegedly PA is biased towards Apple, the camera on the 4S runs circles around the N8 (Which is also 2010) The fact is the 4S is simply the best camera on a mobile to date.
19. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
I think people are untitled to their own opinions, that's why there is an "Add comment", so they could express themselves, either by agreeing or disagreeing or even adding to the article. Or am I wrong?
27. Nick_T (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Your statement may not be wrong, but when you comment on a post, it is usually nice to have something to back your claims up with. This is the 9th category that we have announced so far, yet until today, the iPhone 4S had not been even mentioned, let alone entitled to an award. So, enough with the iPhonearena-esque comments, mmkay?
39. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
So u r talking to me, well don't expect all of us here on PhoneArena to agree with what the journalist or blogger says. As a journalism student, I know that when a writer writes a story, they should try by all means to be objective as possible, but this is difficult to do as we all bring out personal lives into the stories we write. Lemme make an example, we can all see the same event, but when we write a story, we will write it completely different [what you might consider to be important, I might consider it to be pointless. Lets say we got to Usher's concert and he let his fan to sing with him on the stage, I might find it to the best thing about the concert, while you might leave it when you write the story cos you don't consider it as the concert's factor], as we can both see the same even but our experience, ethics, behavior and attitude will shift the way see the story. In simple term, when a tech reviewer who loves using an Android device writes about an iOS device, although they will try to be objective as possible, he'll somewhat be in favor of the Android, this means that although he's reviewing an iOS device, he'll try to bring in the best of Android just to show that although iOS is good, Android also has something better. So, the reason why the is an "Add comment" is so the writer can see whether his readers agree with him or not, and we'll also put in our OPINIONS based on our experience, ethics, behavior and attitude. So that is why I think and I'm sure most Phonearena writers are in favor of Apple products, I myslef have Apple products and I love them, but I just want y'all to be objective.
40. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 651; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
I hope I won't be banned for expressing my OPINIONS. Cos that'll be...... Let's just say, I'm expressing my opinion based on what I read. Again based on my experience and other factors which might not be the same as yours.
43. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
No one gets banned for disagreeing with the writers here. I actually think the writers here have pretty thick skin and roll with the punches pretty good. I have SEEN writers on here admit that a poster has a good point, or that they never thought of something from an angle of those who post here. As a matter of a fact- I think Phone Arena has actually started leaning to the Android side of life since the release of the iPhone 4s. Just my opinion from the "vibe" of most of the authors.
The only time I have seen Phone Arena remove comments is in response to idiots who take personal shots at other posters, off topic trolling, excessive thumbs down, and swearing. I was even moderated once on one of my funnier comments for using a "debatable" word. I find that funny, cause I do not cuss in my everyday life. But I have never seen people get moderated for disagreements.
59. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i really dont see a "vibe" or pattern. most of the writers are much more middle of the road then they used to seem. We also get tons more interaction with them then they used to give.. which is great. I think right now Ray is probably the writer that gets the most flack for being pro-apple (and he doesnt always deserve it), but even he writes articles for multiple OS's. Most of the writers tend to sway back n forth depending on the issue. It's a lot better than it was a year or 2 ago.
56. Snoobab (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Xenon flash, larger sensor, Carl-Zeiss optics, mechanical shutter, 12Mpix... It amazes me how you can even attempt to compare the iPhone 4s camera to the Nokia N8's. Nice try though, 10/10 for effort :)
16. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc should have come second IMO.
54. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I own one and I swear it doesnt stand a chance when compare to the SGSII and the iPone4s when photo details are scrutinized. . .
18. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
NO one care about your N8 you Nokia fanboys. Your N8 run Symbian so in turn it suck. I am a bit surprise that it is the mytouch and not the Amaze from HTC
25. rendHELL (Posts: 304; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
its not the OS that matters... it's supposed to be the best camera phone... not the OS..
31. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
and these are all smartphone which has to do with the OS
23. deep7177 (Posts: 2; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
iphone 4s is over rated samsung galaxy s2 is best.
24. rendHELL (Posts: 304; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
hmmmm i dont know why or how iphone won over samsung galaxy s 2.. care to explain or help to me hepresearch???
44. hepresearch (unregistered)
I do not really know for sure either, as I have never had the opportunity to personally test both of these devices yet to the point that I would know anything useful... I think it is likely to have something to do with the exceptional low-light performance of the iPhone over the Galaxy S II (both are decent, but the iPhone supposedly excels thanks to several factors) while maintaining similar 1080p video recording performance. Really, from a personal point of view, I have not tested either one for their camera capabilities, so I really have nothing to go on. My opinion... Nokia N8, at 12.1 Megapixels, is still the best still camera available on a phone in the US market...
46. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Dude, you are being called out by name!!! How popular you are!! :-D
47. hepresearch (unregistered)
Yeah... how did that happen? LOL!
You know, I usually just skim through real quick if I am not looking at direct comments to my previous posts, so it took like quite a number of passes through before I discovered the explanation request. So, I apologize to you, rendHELL, for taking so long to respond, but I must say thank you for giving me an opportunity to try to answer your question! It does feel nice to be considered someone who typically gives reliable answers to questions...
60. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i typically like your answers.. if that counts for anything :)