Paul Thurrott confirms no Windows Phone 8 for any current handsets
0. phoneArena 21 Apr 2012, 11:39 posted on
There have been conflicting rumors recently over whether or not current Windows Phone handsets would be getting the update to Windows Phone 8 when it hits later this year, but Paul Thurrott wants to set the record straight...
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81. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
Not only a Troll but a Sheep too Ha ha ha. Why don't you hang around in those p*ssy a** Anime forum or sit under a bridge and play those p*ssy a** games for kiddies Troll. Microsoft and Steve Ballmer will f*ck once again. Ha Ha Ha.
23. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
''Oh Apollo, please do not forsake your children''
24. mariosraptor (Posts: 111; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)
i hope this is not true for two reasons:
1-) current WP users like me are not going buy a WP again if they are logical people.cause if someone gives 500-600 euros for a phone i be t you anything that they would like to keep it for atleast 2 years.
2-) if what is said in the article is true, or even if it's not and it gets out to as many people as it is possible it will hurt the platform alot. cause no one would buy anymore current WP7 devices and will wait for WP8 devices.
so let's hope some MS spokeperson will come and say that ALL current phones will be updated and better to come and say it very FAST. or else one less suporter for this platform.
atleast with other OS's i get about 18-24 months of SW updates.
25. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I hope this isn't true. MS needs to support those devices any way they can, even if it's a minor firmware update. They're already on shaky ground with WP7 as it is, but with their lack of support with pass Windows Mobile devices, this could be the straw that breaks the camels back for MS OS.
26. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
lolol.... at least Android has rooting, hence my T-Mobile Vibrant has seen 4 versions of Android, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, and ICS.
How many versions of WP will the Lumia 900 see? 1. That's it. Even the G1 saw more...
Reason why i prefer Android. If the OEMs disappoint, there's always XDA and custom modders.... ANDROID 4 LIFE!!!!
PS- this is a troll.
29. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 945; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Nokia not selling too well, and they need sales. To put the new OS on old phones would slow sales I think.
30. nikhildangui (Posts: 5; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
I remember Microsoft recently criticize iDevices for purposely making newer ios versions run slower on older devices and they also criticize Android for not being Compatible to older Hardware ...
so if hey knw to criticize others they must provide it....
atleast NOkia Devices will get updated thats sure....
31. tigermcm (Posts: 829; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
all I have to say is thats the reason why I have jumped ship from Sprint and went to ATT. Patiently waiting for WP8 on Sprint. Man am I smart
32. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
As in last line that Guy is a liar most of the time so its still a flag not conformed s**t
34. valapsp (Posts: 495; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Guys you know what? We're all F'd up with these statements. One day someone says all current phones are upgradeable and the other day one denies that.
Let's just forget it & hope that AT&T delivers the "Refresh" update for its current customers.
35. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Maannn... That sucks... But i can understand. Inside me i had this coming already. Here is why
Windows Phone 8 will use Windows 8 Kernel, so it kind of same windows for smartphones. So obviously the system requirement will be same.
And the minimum system requirement itself is
- 1GB RAM 32BIT
- 2GB RAM 64BIT
Currently no windows phone has 1GB RAM.
37. DFranch (Posts: 152; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I just got me WP7 phone in January, but I did not buy it thinking "I better get Apollo when it's released". I was might upgrade if Apollo is compelling enough (I'd like removable storage). They said all the apps would be compatible, what more do you expect? If they do provide an update, great, but my phone won't stop working when Apollo is released.
If it does turn out to be true, Hopefully MS or Nokia will give upgraders from WP7 a discount, That'd be nicer than updating an old phone as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather have a new Dual core with an SD slot than a Focus S with Apollo.
87. jroc74 (Posts: 5375; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I agree with this.
I am an Android user...so you know some of us hear it about when is X phone gonna get ICS. I never buy a phone, device for what it can do in the future. I buy it for what it can do for me right now.
38. savtonam (Posts: 2; Member since: 02 Dec 2009)
I love the OS but this is a huge mistake , only way i see Microsoft making it right is eating some of the cost and allow early upgrades at some point before the two year period.
45. JunaidZaka (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Mar 2012)
I love android and probably wont switch over to another os , but i was planning to buy a Windows Phone for my sister because they are nice and stable phones with a simple yet elegant looking metro UI and great overall phone performance.
Im really disappointed to hear this because i was really impressed by the fact that all of the WP7 devices were updated to WP 7.5 , thats a big achievement. Microsoft has made a really bad decision , it would most likely discourage new potential buyers of windows phone, still i hope they come up with something for the current Windows 7 phones.
79. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
So you trust a rumor from someone that is no way related to Microsoft? What have you learned throughout your live?
46. shinywindow (Posts: 109; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
Windows sux it hard. I have really wanted to like it because of something new I guess but after two phones including the lumia 900, it over for me. Bing sux and the tiles just look so kindergarten after awhile. They will die before they even get started. This is a stupid move on their part very stupid. I am done with windows phone. I only wish their was desktop android for my home computer.
77. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
You are already done with it , quit trolling.
47. akita256 (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)
Well I had been thinking about buying a Lumia 900, but I sure won't now! I bet a ton of people will return their Lumia 900's within the 30-day return period that AT&T gives you when you buy a new phone. If I had already bought one I know I would return it and just wait on the Windows 8 phones to hit the market. I wouldn't want to be stuck with a phone that is not going to be upgraded.
50. rsiders (Posts: 467; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Hey loyal supporters come buy our products that will be old news in less than a year. It's our way of saying thank you.lol Is this what the market has become? You can't even enjoy a phone for long these days before it seems old. Well I'm rocking with my unlocked HTC Titan for the next year and a half baby. This is the same feeling I had when I bought the HTC HD2 and then they came out with Windows Phone 7 which the HD2 was completely capable of running but didn't get the update. Only thing is this time I at least feel very comfortable with the platform enough to wait to get an Apollo capable phone. Windows Phone is great already so I'm not buying into the hype-driven, new device, new technology heavy cellphone cycle. It's starting to suck.
52. bbdol (Posts: 16; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Well I'll I know is we'll get a definite answer once leaks of Apollo go around. I'm still sitting here with my trusty HD2 believing even I will get an update from the Dark Forces Team and our other friends at XDA. All hail! Long live the mighty HD2!
54. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Friends relax. Wait for the official word from MS. If not true, jump up for joy. If true then vent but don't salivate upon the sight of a WP8 device, especially if it has Pureview built in.
55. Veigald (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)
There is no way MS and Nokia would put this much effort into launching Lumia 900 if they were not planning to let it be upgraded. The damaging effect of that would simply be too great.
Further, WP8 is supposed to be an OS that can run on all ranges of devices, not only high end ones. And seeing that one of the main strong points WP has over Android is that it's not such a lagfest, it needs to run smoothly also on low end devices. Thus, current high end WP phones will obviously be capable of running WP8.
Also, that MS has not come out with a clear answer should not be interpreted as a definite signal there won't be upgrades, it is much more likely they are still working with carriers and manufacturers to see what paths can be made.
Lastly, WP8 isn't even done yet, so they will not commit to anything too early.
63. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
rumor from a dude that doesnt have a perfect batting average on an OS that is supposed to be able to run from high to low.. unless they are planing on creating a divide between windows 7 and windows 8 i dont see them not at least updating the stronger phones.... but i have a feeling it will be on all phones.
They are not going to bring out an update to allow low level phones, and then in the next update destroy that. think about it.
66. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Who is Paul Thurrot. When i started reading this, I thought that he was some executive from microsoft! Turns out this is just another guy! Let's see what microsoft has to say about this! Why do people believe so easily? If someone from microsoft says that this is not true, no one would believe him.
68. frydaexiii (Posts: 1386; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Haha, and you WP fanboys were like "Just wait for Apollo on the Lumia, It's gonna kick every other OS's butt." Not anymore huh?
78. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
You are comparing a rumor to a fact that 90% of androids wont get ICS
93. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
But the problem is that the N900 is only a few weeks old and is now on deathwatch. At least with Android the majority of Apps still work on older devices. Can you say the same thing when you have specific requirements for Windows 8 apps? That's the problem. Microsoft wants to keep the specs and requirements so tightly controlled it's going to hurt Windows Phone 7 people. If that windows mobile 8 app requires dual core cpu's, 1 gig of memory or higher screen resolutions what guarantees do you have?
That's why a old non updated Android phone is still good. The Apps scale based on your hardware. It may run like crap but it runs.
95. frydaexiii (Posts: 1386; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
90% of Androids consist low ends/Mid ranges/old high ends that can't handle ICS or have no benefits to gain from it.
Almost all of the manufacturer's flagships are already confirmed for ICS (Xperia S, Razr, etc.) or have already got it (SGS2, HTC Sensation)...
69. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
http://wmpoweruser.com/paul-thurrott-puts-his-credibility-on-the-line-regarding-windows-phone-8-upgrade/ , read this and then think about what the guy is saying, he is lying. Paul Thurrott my foot, who is he? Is he Bill Gates or Sephen Elop, he doesn't even work for microsoft!
89. jroc74 (Posts: 5375; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Thurrott is a guy associated with Microsoft tho. I remember seeing his name for years connected with Windows OS's.
Yea he could be wrong tho. We all will have to just wait n see.
73. kanagadeepan (Posts: 764; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
So the price of Lumia900 is justified, imho...
80. jibraihimi (Posts: 713; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Windows just got 'Smoked by Ballmer'............. :)
82. jibraihimi (Posts: 713; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Well I didn't understood one thing...... Why doesn't WP7/WP7.5 manufacturers launched any phone with 1GB RAM, higher storage capacity, expandable storage, high resolution screens...........????? According to what I had understood till now, the 512 MB RAM, 800X480 screen and 8GB internal storage was minimum requirements for WP7/WP7.5............ Since it was minimum requirements then why doesn't manufacturers made any phone with the higher specifications............?????? They could have launched phones with higher specifications and future updates would have taken care of them........!!!!!!!!!!!
83. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
because WP is optimized to run with that little hardware, while Android is unoptimized.
Even iPhone 4S only have 512MB of RAM.
86. RobotMan (Posts: 140; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Because for WP, to upgrade is to buy new phone.
84. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Everything is happening as hepresearch has forseen...
85. Sangeet (Posts: 232; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
They should have actually said this after the Nokia Lumia 900 would have smashed the AT&T sales but after hearing this why would anyone even think o9f buying the nokia lumia 900 cuz everyone will know one thing for sure and that is as soon as the windows phone 8 launches almost noi or negligible developer support will be given to the Windows Phone 7.5 phones and hence it would be useless like the Windows Moibile Platform..
I am sure this statement will surely affect the sales of the Nokia Lumia 900
I don't know that what were they even thinking before saying that statement at this time
91. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
Microsoft is a joke none of their software has been that good that is why i have switched to Apple and will not use their junk again. Everyone is forgetting Millennium which lasted less than a year and was never fixed. No Microsoft is the worst company on the face of the earth.
92. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
And just to throw more fuel on the fire what about app support? Will Apps designed for Windows mobile 8 work on Windows mobile 7 since the phones require different kernels and hardware?
Anybody remember WM 6.5 apps working on Windows Phone 7? Exactly!!!
What on earth is Microsoft doing? It's either Android or iOS for me.
96. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1333; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
if Mr Thurott's info is correct I believe 2 things will come out of this 1= Microsoft will support the present Windows 7.5 Mango/Tango smart phones for at least 2 years.
2= Microsoft will Give Present Owners and People who will buy in stock Windows Phone 7.5 Mango/Tango smart phones a healthy trade in MONEY$ rebate to trade up to Windows 8 Smart phones and their present Carrier will not charge them any Penalty fees if they trade in their old Windows 7.5 mango smart phone before their 2 years contract is up. This will be expensive to Microsoft but it is the best Way for them to keep their Current customers and let New Windows smart phone customers know that Microsoft will not leave them stuck with outdated smart phones. This is called severe Public relations repair. Microsoft must bit the Bullet and pay big bucks to be a valuable Company that people will trust to buy something from.Wow this could cost Microsoft at least 2 billion dollars to repair
98. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1333; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
If I were Nokia and any other windows smart phones OEM's I would now halt further Productions on any Windows 7.5 Mango/Tango smart phones because when the word gets out that these smart phones will be Obsolete later this year Even the Great Nokia Lumia 900 the best of Current Windows 7.5 Mango smart phones may be hard to sell.
I am going to make a wild wild Prediction and that is Windows 8 for desktops, Laptops
tablet Computers, servers and smart phones will come out months earlier than expected. Windows 8 smart will appear in september 2012.
102. RobotMan (Posts: 140; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
There is two reasons Nokia and other manufacture using single core cpu, ( and low memory ) it is because Microsoft want to sell new phone when WP8 come out. They will say that it is not posible to upgrade because of the hardware. Another reason is to make the phone as cheap as posible to gain market share.
I think that why Sony ( if not mistaken ) said they are waiting for WP8.
103. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7030; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
What a way to screw your consumers Paul Thurrott
104. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
This is really stupid. How can a guy that 98% of the people who have commented on this post didn't know before this post was published, with no attachment to microsoft whatsoever, who has been wrong in the past saying that the lumia 710 would go to verizon and not t mobile and lots of other lies just come out and say this and suddenly everyone believes him because he has said something that hurts a platform that many people don't want to see develop! I am so annoyed by this so called blind fanboyism. It robs people of their judgement. So you really believe that after the billions of dollars that microsoft has invested in wp, they will just throw it and all it's users away? You believe that because wp8 will support multiple cores then it can't support single cores! This is just annoying watching people make all these stupid comments. Check the comments on android related articles, you will not find a single hate comment coming from a wp user, maybe an ios user, but not wp. Style up people!
105. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
They will throw it away if they want to destroy Nokia on purpose, which could be the real scenario after all.