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Paris court rules that Apple owes €12 million for unpaid iPad taxes

0. phoneArena 28 Oct 2013, 22:49 posted on

A published report out of France says that a court in Paris has ruled against Apple to the tune of €12 million EUR ($16.5 million USD); Apple was accused of refusing to pay taxes related to iPads sold between March and December of 2012. According to French law, copie privee royalties must be paid on devices that can transfer or display copyrighted material...

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posted on 28 Oct 2013, 22:51 16

1. DaHarder (Posts: 174; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)


Question for Tim Cook:

How Ya' Like Them Apples?

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 22:53 6

2. E.S.1 (Posts: 294; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


That's funny lol

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 22:59 5

4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8920; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I see what you did there.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 22:58 2

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8920; Member since: 14 May 2012)


$16.5 million to them = $1 to us. I wish I had that kind of money.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 23:24 4

7. Miracles (Posts: 560; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)


A bit confusing. $16.5M to us = $1 to them. Isn't it more like that?

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 23:44

9. HASHTAG (unregistered)


Either way, same meaning, but most would put it the way you worded it.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 04:41

15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8920; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Whoops yeah you're right. That's what happens when you're exhausted from woork. Thank you sir.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 23:14 2

5. mr.techdude (Posts: 555; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Yeh tellem paris

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 23:16 13

6. D.Aceveda (Posts: 366; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


They should pay an extra million for being an asshole

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 00:32 2

11. joey_sfb (Posts: 3215; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


'Apple also continues to owe €5 million EUR ($6.9 million USD) for iPads sold in France during 2011.'

What is 5 millions to a multi billions company?

Yes! Please pay up, Apple!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 04:10 1

14. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 1184; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Thanks, because of this being about France, I have this kid's voice in my head from the movie Hancock who says asshole in a french accent

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 23:37 1

8. Topcat488 (Posts: 1172; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Oui,Oui,,, says Apple... WE (Oui) won't pay your "Stuuuuu-pit" taxes!!! NO, No, no.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:45

18. PBXtech (Posts: 983; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


I imagined that from Craig Ferguson's french accent, lol.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 00:32 6

10. Sire3008 (Posts: 87; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


So this can be regarded as tax fraud? Isn't it a serious offence? Common France! Demand $300 million dollars. Apple deserves it!!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 00:47

12. xfire99 (Posts: 570; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


The truth will always be out there!
Apple cant hide from theirs hypocritically side and all lies about exchange rates, my ass. Billions in bank and still damn greedy. The sad, peoples are buying theirs damn lies!
If they just get it straight out, that reason of price raise and no one would care. Peoples will still buy theirs devices.
Let see if this hypocritically company will drops the prices, when exchange rates changes in US dollar favor.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 04:09

13. blattlaus (Posts: 60; Member since: 12 Dec 2010)


Looks like Tim Cook will have to check his couch for change again.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 05:22

16. Pancholo (Posts: 377; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


So Samsung "steals" electricity and Apple "avoids" taxes. Who's copying who?

Sent from my Note 2 while charging in a friend's house.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:34

17. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


So apple is charging more for iphones in France and still not paying their taxes?

This 16.5m + the 6m already owed is nothing compared to the $1b+ corporate taxes that apple dodges by operating out of Ireland (on paper only).

Apple will probably just appeal for the next 10 years, "you're taxing us wrong"

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:59

19. 14545 (Posts: 1152; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I hate apple, but they aren't really wrong here. Why should an "author", or whomever, get paid for works that might never be used on these devices? However, this is just giving apple a taste of their own BS "infringement" medicine. Too everyone saying it's just chump change, think about this next time you go to buy a device. They will pass the cost along to the consumer, not just "eat the losses". So in essence, that is these so called "authors" stealing from the average citizen because they feel their work should be compensated even if it sucks. This is BS. Even if it is against apple.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 15:19

20. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Its the rules of the game even if it's bs. In France you have to pay this tax if you want to sell a media product. What is bs is that apple refuses to play by the same rules as every other manufacturer.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 16:00

21. 14545 (Posts: 1152; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


The rules are BS. That's my point. Apple, along with many other companies should refuse to do business there until the laws are changed. I know if I were a CEO, I would. Also, we don't know if this is a retroactive law. So they could basically be using it to milk the producers of money just like the RIAA/MPAA/BMI/etc. do here. I'm with apple on this one. I would tell the French to get bent. I would take my ball and go home. With the iSheep following, apple as that kind of clout in the "artsy" community where this is being driven from. Just my .02.

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