Paris court rules that Apple owes €12 million for unpaid iPad taxes
Some believe that this tax is the reason why Apple recently raised the price of the Apple iPhone 5s and Apple iPhone 5c in the country. The price of the 16GB iPhone 5s was hiked €10 ($13.66 USD), the 32 GB model was raised €12 ($16.40 USD) and the 64 gig model added €18 ($24.59 USD). The Apple iPhone 5c's two storage options, 16GB and 32GB, saw its prices raised €10 and €12 respectively.
Meanwhile, Apple has yet to pay 1 red cent to Copie France which is supposed to receive the payment. Apple also continues to owe €5 million EUR ($6.9 million USD) for iPads sold in France during 2011. The lack of payment was noted by SACEM, which is the French society of authors, composers, and music publishers and is similar to BMI and ASCAP in the U.S.
Paris court rules against Apple, says company owes 12 million EUR in taxes based on French iPad sales in 2012
source: PCInpact (translated) via 9to5Mac
1. DaHarder (Posts: 126; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)
Question for Tim Cook:
How Ya' Like Them Apples?
3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 4208; Member since: 14 May 2012)
$16.5 million to them = $1 to us. I wish I had that kind of money.
7. Miracles (Posts: 196; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)
A bit confusing. $16.5M to us = $1 to them. Isn't it more like that?
9. HASHTAG (Posts: 386; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)
Either way, same meaning, but most would put it the way you worded it.
15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 4208; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Whoops yeah you're right. That's what happens when you're exhausted from woork. Thank you sir.
6. D.Aceveda (Posts: 302; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
They should pay an extra million for being an asshole
11. joey_sfb (Posts: 1477; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
'Apple also continues to owe €5 million EUR ($6.9 million USD) for iPads sold in France during 2011.'
What is 5 millions to a multi billions company?
Yes! Please pay up, Apple!
14. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 92; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Thanks, because of this being about France, I have this kid's voice in my head from the movie Hancock who says asshole in a french accent
8. Topcat488 (Posts: 786; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Oui,Oui,,, says Apple... WE (Oui) won't pay your "Stuuuuu-pit" taxes!!! NO, No, no.
18. PBXtech (Posts: 193; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
I imagined that from Craig Ferguson's french accent, lol.
10. Sire3008 (Posts: 42; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
So this can be regarded as tax fraud? Isn't it a serious offence? Common France! Demand $300 million dollars. Apple deserves it!!
12. xfire99 (Posts: 263; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
The truth will always be out there!
Apple cant hide from theirs hypocritically side and all lies about exchange rates, my ass. Billions in bank and still damn greedy. The sad, peoples are buying theirs damn lies!
If they just get it straight out, that reason of price raise and no one would care. Peoples will still buy theirs devices.
Let see if this hypocritically company will drops the prices, when exchange rates changes in US dollar favor.
13. blattlaus (Posts: 51; Member since: 12 Dec 2010)
Looks like Tim Cook will have to check his couch for change again.
16. Pancholo (Posts: 302; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
So Samsung "steals" electricity and Apple "avoids" taxes. Who's copying who?
Sent from my Note 2 while charging in a friend's house.
17. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
So apple is charging more for iphones in France and still not paying their taxes?
This 16.5m + the 6m already owed is nothing compared to the $1b+ corporate taxes that apple dodges by operating out of Ireland (on paper only).
Apple will probably just appeal for the next 10 years, "you're taxing us wrong"
19. 14545 (Posts: 886; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I hate apple, but they aren't really wrong here. Why should an "author", or whomever, get paid for works that might never be used on these devices? However, this is just giving apple a taste of their own BS "infringement" medicine. Too everyone saying it's just chump change, think about this next time you go to buy a device. They will pass the cost along to the consumer, not just "eat the losses". So in essence, that is these so called "authors" stealing from the average citizen because they feel their work should be compensated even if it sucks. This is BS. Even if it is against apple.
20. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Its the rules of the game even if it's bs. In France you have to pay this tax if you want to sell a media product. What is bs is that apple refuses to play by the same rules as every other manufacturer.
21. 14545 (Posts: 886; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
The rules are BS. That's my point. Apple, along with many other companies should refuse to do business there until the laws are changed. I know if I were a CEO, I would. Also, we don't know if this is a retroactive law. So they could basically be using it to milk the producers of money just like the RIAA/MPAA/BMI/etc. do here. I'm with apple on this one. I would tell the French to get bent. I would take my ball and go home. With the iSheep following, apple as that kind of clout in the "artsy" community where this is being driven from. Just my .02.