PC Mag says Apple iPhone 5 is the fastest smartphone in the land
0. phoneArena 22 Sep 2012, 02:10 posted on
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42. papss (unregistered)
Wow that was unexpected but great for apple. considering the bad map issues and Knicks on the phones they need some good news. I'm still going with the 920 as long as its priced right
45. aahmed215 (Posts: 94; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)
PC Mag tested the US version of the S3. That's why they said the iPhone 5 is the fastest phone in the "USA", not Earth. Wait until the S3 gets updated to Jelly Bean too. As others said, I would like to see the iPhone 5 compared to other top phones like the Note 2.
In the end, I would much rather prefer the S3 even if it was slower. Software is extremely important than me and Android (especially Jelly Bean) blows iOS out of the water.
84. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
You must be really clueless about the processor difference between the US and international versions. Hint: quad-core Exynos is slower than dual-core krait. Google is your friend, as well as dozens of websites that compare the two.
47. Marcus_h (Posts: 44; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Whiney fandroids - they are just the worst losers. Or Biggest losers. Or both
The iP5 is not only the fastest, it has the longest battery life (except for those Razr Maxx slabs), probably the best camera (perhaps disregarding the mad Pureview), and clearly very well put together (witness the droptests that are appearing on the web).
For the record I am not an iPhone owner, though may be persuaded by this one. Just find it so odd that people are faced with a thoroughly well-thought out product, and whine that it isn't very good. It is!
64. Sniggly (Posts: 7221; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I didn't say the iPhone is a bad phone. Nor did I question the legitimacy of the tests. I'm just saying that the crown won't stay in Apple's hands for long.
80. Hemlocke (unregistered)
No, you're right, but then again, nobody keeps it for very long. The technology inside these devices iterates and evolves far too quickly. I spent the last year chasing "the best," and 21 phones later, I have what I have always had: another phone.
86. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I hear you. They flock to all the tech sites and tech forums, telling Cr@pple to get iLost. You can't reason with them. They are the epotimization of blind faith and hatred. I have owned phones from every manufacturer, on all three major platforms. The iPhone is still at or near the top of the heap, depending on your needs. Anyone who buys the iPhone is considered an iSheep. The iPhones are placed next to every other phone in the store, sometimes way in the back. Consumers are not stupid. Android fanboys are quite so.
53. GoBears (Posts: 401; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Impressive, too bad it still runs IOS. Could have been a nice device lol.
54. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
I would like to call you all a big bunch of silly geeks but I would have to include myself. Don't we have anything else better to do?
59. justaphone (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Aug 2012)
This is a good thing for everyone. Apple raising the bar just means better devices for android down the road! I don't get the "benchmarks don't matter" comments...
87. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
They only matter when your favorite phone is winning. Otherwise, they are worthless and nothing but lies. In this case, since apparently 99% of commenters are Android fanboys screaming endlessly about how much they hate Apple, benchmarks will not matter for this specific article.
68. AmirAli (Posts: 4; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I have never say that, apple hardware is crap. Apple hardware is too good, but too late!!! iphone 4s had had the best dual core chip ( before karit I mean ). iphone4s chip was really better than galaxy sll and tegra2, but it came out too late. On that time Android had Asus transformer prime with tegra 3 processor which has quad core cortex A9 and powerful gpu like A5 chip. after 2 or 3 month htc one x and one s was released. They easily beat iphone 4s. And now apple introduces the new A6 chip. like the past it is so good but so late. A6 is better than most of chips in Android smartphones. The architecture of A6 is based on arm v7s just like Cortex A15 and Karit. They should have the same performance and their performance is near twice times more than Cortex A9 in the same situation. But as I said before it is too late. A6 cannot compete with quad core Karit!!! we have LG optimus G with quad core karit and adreno 320 gpu. SnapDragon S4 pro is superior In both aspects of processing and graphics. In theory its CPU has the same architecture with A6 but with quad core those are cloced at 1.5 GHrz not dual core and 1 GHrz!!! On the other hand Adreno 320 is really awsome. In GL benchmark Egypt off screen 1080p, Adreno 320 reaches the 29 fps but the rest of other GPUs only get 13 fps. We have LG optimus G with this chip on the market now!!! If you don't like LG just a little wait for Asus padfon 2 or htc One x5. Both of them have the quad core karit and adreno 320. They will be released before November!!! Some people will say that what is the benfits of that hardware, when every thing is smooth in iphone. But all of theme forget one point. Fast processors are only used for high performance tasks like gaming. There is no need to have a super processor to watch movies, browse the web, run light apps like evernote, etc. If you want to do them, do not throw away your money and just buy one xperia arc. xperia arc is so cheap and do all of those tasks without any lag. But if you want a really high end hardware, you can buy quad core Karit with Adreno320 by the same price as iphone 5.
88. BattleBrat (Posts: 1215; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Apple's hardware has always been top notch, it's the operating system that I'm not fond of.... well, except on an ipod touch...
89. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
You know there is always this really big disparity. Tech sites and phone sites will always make Apple posts and reviews. Commenters will moan and bash at the slightest mention of Apple. Is it because the editors are ignoring their loyal readers? Or maybe because the Android fanboys and Apple haters are really just a pitiful minority of the readership but command 100% of the noise?
Cue stupid people accusing the entire tech media of being paid by Apple.
90. Androidman (Posts: 4; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
91. ahhxd717 (Posts: 323; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
Good for Apple. Obviously they spent a lot of time designing this chip. Too bad it can't run android or WP haha. However, I would hope this phone were faster since it was released like 5-6 months after phones shipping with the S4 did. I wonder how much faster the iPhone 5 feels in normal use compared to the 4S.
96. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)
Don't understand how fast these thing is. My single core far from these benchmark but already really fast system and browser except if my internet trouble. Is these phone with its super duper fast performance can response right before the user even can think about what to do? If not, seems there is nothing important to debate.
99. speckledapple (Posts: 885; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I think there are many problems with benchmarks and how something is proven to be better than something else. I think these tests are more subjective than anything else. It shows raw performance possible but thats it. There are many more factors i think that even us as techies or the general public should be concerned about especially those things that actually feel different.
100. Noble_One (Posts: 59; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
I did always think this benchmark stuff was stupid...kudos to apple for making a fast chip. It may well be the fastest chip on the market. My biggest issue with the phone is the platform at this point. The hardware is outstanding but apple has hypocritically gone against their own philosophy by making a super powerful phone and making no real improvements w/ ios 6. I'm an android guy and I own a EVO 4g LTE but can still appreciate apple's hardware here. I also realize that as my phone gets jellybean and other further updates my experience will continue to improve. This new iPhone may well beat my phone in benchmarks (until jellybean comes ;-) but my platform already has standard features that ios may never see. Apple made a phone that is sure to please the geeks and apple faithful, but falls short in actual user experience, as several of the reviews have pointed out. Having the fastest phone is a victory, but a small one considering androids considerable market share. Those numbers don't lie. And what those numbers are telling us is that the majority of smartphone users worldwide believe the Android platform offers the superior experience.
106. Hemlocke (unregistered)
That argument is fraught with peril. 68% market share and only one OEM is profitable says that people aren't investing in Android so much as just picking up what's free. Apple's profit with three different phones each year tells you that they are in it for the long haul. Android OEMs cannot say the same, and I believe by next summer you will see about half the current Android vendors in the market.
114. Noble_One (Posts: 59; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
That may be true but it doesn't change that 68%. I didn't say that all the android oems are profitable, but stating the clear fact that the platform has been dominant. There's almost always been free android phones available for the major carriers, but apple had been dominant up until just recently. So what has changed? Obviously the free phones you speak of are more appealing in the market place. Even if the 68% market share were dominated by free phones, it still reflects that people prefer the platform. Despite the premium prices that apple products have held in the past, their market dominance was undeniable. People are investing in android by picking up free devices if they were once willing to pay for apple products but are not any longer.
115. Noble_One (Posts: 59; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
Also, the same major players have been in the android game since at least 2010. That won't change by next year. As all of us mobile fans know, the tide can turn quickly. Since the platform is "hot" right now, everyone is basically one "hot" device away from turning a serious profit. I think we may see the with the LG Optimus g.
120. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Profit doesn't always speak to what people are investing in, it could just be an indicator of how much the company is milking their customers for. And you use free like its a dirty word or something, I dont think free is a bad thing. Especially when the free thing that I get is the exact same thing that someone else paid $4.99 to get. Angry Birds is the exact same on your phone as it is on mine, except for the ad that pops up on my screen. But the difference is, if it annoys me that bad I can always CHOOSE to pay to have it removed. You don't even get the option on iOS. So yes, the fact that you have to pay for just about everything means Apple makes more money from you than Google makes from me.
122. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Yes, they make more money from me. How is that a bad thing? If they don't make money from me, I don't get services, upgrades, etc. Android OEMs release and forget. I WANT Apple to keep things coming, and without selling my information to the highest bidder to do so.
123. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm not saying Apple making money from you is BAD. But you make it sound like FREE is bad, that's my point. And you don't honestly believe Apple isn't sharing your info do you? Your data is just as available to other companies, if not more so than mine. I use them both, I read the T and C's of both, and trust me... your info is being sold OFTEN.
128. Hemlocke (unregistered)
I use them both, as well, and no ads are being personalized and served to me by Apple. I'm not being tracked across the internet by Apple. Google? All of the above, and then some. It's all about revenue streams, and they are both pretty well defined:
131. -box- (Posts: 3932; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I dunno, I think ios is more like a TI-80, or maybe a 36...
110. wolstenbeast (Posts: 25; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
Standardized testing in any walk of life, whether it be in technology or school, will never paint a true picture of either a device or an individual.
When it comes to devices, software and how it handles rendering, threading etc will affect these bench marks. Silly stuff like screen size and design affects graphical performance.
The I-phone is a well designed superbly marketed app launcher, it requires fewer system resources to support these functions.
Android is a full operating system, in which full multitasking is everyday and as such it takes more resources to achieve similar bench mark tests. For me the real mark of speed in a phone is how quickly I can get things done , not some bench mark score.
So for me an slower android device lets me do things faster than the fastest iteration of the IPhone, I need to run multiple aps on a regular basis to multitask efficiently. My daughters iPhone drives me nuts if I ever have to do something on it, closing out of one thing to do another sucks.
Simply put Iphone uses now have a way better device than they previously did, so they are happy. I will be getting the new Droid Incredible X and Droid Razr HD Maxx, so I will be happy.
Their pride and happiness in their new Apple products does not impinge upon my happiness, however the rabid stupidity shown by one or two extreme sheep on here does make my brain hurt st times.
Comparing IOS benchmarks to Android is an act of sophistry, in the real world there is no comparison, they are devices that operate so differently yet have the same end purpose. Think motorcycle and car.
112. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
How can it be the fastest Smartphone with a 1000 MHZ processor?? Apple needs to catch up all the other phones that has 1.2 GHZ processors from what i know GHZ is faster than MHZ
133. -box- (Posts: 3932; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
It isn't just clockspeed, it's architecture, cores, and component integration. As stated previously, these benchmarks are pointless. You may as well say a gen-1 Core2Duo clocked at 4GHz is faster than a 2nd-Gen Core i7 at 2GHz.
116. iGREGG (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
#TeamiPhone #AppleGang #iGang
lol.... idk about it beig the FASTEST IN THE WORLD
but damn the iPhone5is kickin ass!
117. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 540; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
I played with the iPhone 5 today at the Apple Store. It was pleasant but hardly an Earth shattering experience. I love the lighter weight and apparent build quality, but other than that, the UI and look and feel isn't that much different than the 4S and I'd get bored with it pretty quick.
118. darkkjedii (Posts: 13808; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I can honestly say from testing it around vegas, and indoors that it is lights out fast. Both data and os speed is tip top excellent phone, among the best available
127. Iphone4 (unregistered)
widgets makes my S3 lag. i hate it
130. buggerrer (Posts: 292; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
Another example of irresponsible reporting. The benchmarking test at PCMag was done against the dual core versions of the Samsung GS3 not the quad core. Sascha Segan, the author of PCMag article, said in the comments "Regarding the Exynos version of the Galaxy S III, we review US phones here at PCMag, and nobody has yet released a US phone with that processor." The statement that the iPhone 5 "is the fastest smartphone on earth." is insincere and dubious at best and reveals the author's bias towards the iPhone.
144. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Anand Shimpi's results were against the international S3, and even the Optimus G. Same verdict.
135. EasyMade (Posts: 9; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
PC Mag are isheep anyway...How about comparing it to the Oppo Find 5 then go tell ya mama PC Mag...STFU!
145. Hemlocke (unregistered)
The Oppo is vaporware. Their CEO is making lots of proclamations, but no hardware to back them up.
169. EasyMade (Posts: 9; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
Vaporware?! I'm responding using an Oppo Find 5...#beast
143. Furbal (Posts: 463; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
/geekbench2/10511741758 on ICS not JB
My att gs3. Iphone5 is still a good phone...but saying it is the fastest due to synthetic benchmarks is pretty stupid.
146. Samsomesh (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
I say lg optimus G will soon overtake it and will be the fastest phone on earth!.!
147. Samsomesh (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
I say lg optimus G will soon overtake it and will be the fastest phone on earth!.!
148. Samsomesh (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
I say lg optimus G will soon overtake it and will be the fastest phone on earth!.!
156. tedkord (Posts: 5935; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Here's my SGS3 Geekbench score. :)
I think I'll be passing on the new iPhone.
161. reignwolve101 (Posts: 5; Member since: 23 Sep 2012)
Personally, I am not a fan of the iPhone 5. For being a beginning of the next generation Apple phone, it doesn't have enough new features to make it stellar in my book. I would at least thought they would throw their hat into the larger than 8MP rear facing camera arena. The whole passport thing really has me questioning about security of traveling not only in North America but internationally. You know hackers would love to get all over your information and making it available from the lock screen is scary. I think Android has more realistic manufacturer services that really Apple needs to look into. Why not make another phone model for the power user business types?
162. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
Once windows comes back anwho will start dropping off. Never seen such a bunch of cry baby anwho fans. I have had 6 Android. Worked fine when weren't locked up. Which was most of the time. You have what you want leave the Apple people alone. Sick of all the trash talk. Get of your computers and go out and get a life.
163. yajia1 (Posts: 115; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
I dont care about these benchmarks but this is great to know since I am selling my S3 for an iPhone5. The reason is that Samsung phones tends to depreciate value so fast because they are releasing phones every now and then. Same as with the rest of Android manufacturers. Bought my S3 for about $800 in my country, now, in less than half a year, it has depreciated to $550. Versus the iPhone 4s that launched at $800, after a year the price is still around $670. You can really see the diferrence in demand. Apple comes on top if it is resale value you are after. Not to mention my S3 lags, most of the time reloads the homepage when i've been away from it, playing games etc. for like 5 minutes. Effing touchwiz is a BS. That never happens with my iPhone4, it never lagged at all. Really did make a wrong move upgrading to a phone with blinding specs but software can't really deliver.
167. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
If the iphone5 is the fastest phone ever with 1 and something giga hertz what's wrong with the Motorola razr I? It's got intel and 2 GHz so how is it even possible the Mot. Razr i could end up in 2nd place 4 fastest phone????!!!??!!?
170. yogesh7983 (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Good job done by Samsung .. i believe who made the processor chip.
Now samsung created the fastest processor.
Sony behind the camera.
Good that samsung and sony doing there good job for the amount paid and are not cheap like Apple.
14 years nokia ruled the world with no patent war.
Apple just came in 2007 but trying to grow by screwing up other companies.
It should stand and fight by doing innovations. What is apple 's current role ? richest company, richest employees, us economy and anything else useful ????
People can do more stuff in other phones (GS3, note , One X , Xperia , Razr ) than iphone.
173. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Samsung didn't create anything. You don't call the guy who makes your sandwich a rancher or a farmer, they are just the guy who made it. The rancher, farmer, baker, etc. all created the ingredients. Samsung had ZERO design input on this.
174. bluexperia (Posts: 40; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
in my opinion, as a fandroid, apple had done a great job in optimizing their os performance parallel with just a pair of core with 1ghz(although can be boost to 1.3 ghz, but still doesn`t come close to android 1.5ghz dual or quad core), and it can run smoothly... this has come to a proof that os optimization must come parallel to performance of processor to get a minimal amount work need to be given and maximum output as possible... i`m just hoping that with jelly bean, android will not be competing to produce more powerful processor with more core, instead of optimizing the os throughly so that the number core and the processor clock be become useful 100%...