PC Mag says Apple iPhone 5 is the fastest smartphone in the land
0. phoneArena 22 Sep 2012, 02:10 posted on
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6. rgxVOiD (Posts: 440; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
Yes. Just comparing with GSIII and Razr M doesn't make it the fastest phone in the world.
13. Mercenary (Posts: 61; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
Of course there is nothing called the fastest in the world..because there is always something better that will come in the future..but let's say it's the fastest in the market yet.
Anyway..I don't really care about the benchmarks and power..
Why do I need an intel core i7 extreme in an iPhone if the dual core processor is doing a great job with no lag and can run every application smoothly??
It's not about having the best specs..
Note:I don't have an iPhone and not planning to buy one.
20. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1217; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Yes, there is a problem. The problem is that one of the phones this benchmark compared the iPhone 5 to was a phone that was announced in May and released in June (although it was released in May internationally). Of course, I am speaking of the GSIII. So, wouldn't it be better to compare it to phones that have been announced recently that are more up to date on technology, such as the Galaxy Note II and the LG Optimus G? (And before you start to say: "Well we can't compare it to those devices because they haven't come out yet..." Just know that these devices have been benchmarked and their release dates are within the next two months.) So, while PC World may TECHNICALLY be able to say it's the fastest phone in the world right now, it will be short lived. It almost begs the question of why even crown it when you know it's going to dethroned in a short period of time?
32. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Lol, I can't believe you really think that the iPhone 5 shouldn't be compared to the SIII. May/June was not that long ago. You guys never had a problem comparing the SIII to the iPhone 4S, lol. The Note II would be an interesting comparison, but I think SGIII is more in the same category smartphone than the Note II.
46. Quezdagreat (Posts: 428; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
Thank you, these are the same guys getting happy because the s3 outsold the iPhone 4S last quarter.
56. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
This is why I hate these tests.
While I don't have a problem with benchmark tests against a company's predecessors, I do have a problem in making them against competition. Technology leapfrogs very quickly which inherently leaves the many previously issued devices behind once again. It may be fun for geeks but, all it does is confuse the mainstream public.
Consumers really need to take the same mindset they use when purchasing PCs and migrate over to smartphones and other mobile devices. --Purchase the most you can with what you can afford--. Because next month, it will only be outdated.
62. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Nope. Moore's Law isn't consistent. The iPhone 4S was a minor upgrade. Buyers could've skipped it. The Galaxy S III isn't that much better than the S II. They could've skipped it and waited for the S IV. iPhones are predictable since there's only one a year. Android phones release two or three flagship phones a year per company and then there's a bunch of midrange and budget models. What is major and what is marginal, the benchmarks and the reviews will help make the decision. I feel sorry for people who just bought the Xperia Ion and now the Xperia T has suddenly come out.
111. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Very true aoikemono27.
My original point was rather vague.
PCworld's article is current as of today. Unfortunately, the iPhone will not change for another year. Tomorrow, an Android manufacturer could release twice the speed and then something faster months from now. It is important that consumers realize this difference. That is why when tests of this nature are conducted, the use of more information should be implemented in helping consumers with choice.
Personal question. When setting an iphone5 with its specs next to the iPhone4s, which one would you choose to carry you through the next 2years? Same with the Galaxy S3 vs the S2? Whether an Apple supporter or Android, consumers need to recognize this.
Apple has one iphone launch annually. Their consumer contracts tend to expire around this time due to previous purchases. So yes, predictability in this case is good. However, Android launches throughout the year and their consumers contracts do too although not consistant with launches. This means while Apple is it today at this moment, the consumer has a great choice. Tomorrow could be a different story.
71. satanrules (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
That's another reason why people prefer iOS over Android.
125. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)
well...statistically speaking this isn't true
you don't need to look far to find the stats about android having somewhere around 50% of the american/world market
not that it really matters
buy the phone you love
it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks about the need for fashion and trend or super processors and customizability
136. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1718; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
NO they prefer Apple because of it's marketing and popularity. Ask any average user they don't even know wtf iOS is
150. tedkord (Posts: 11911; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
People prefer Android by a more than 3 to 1 margin.
139. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1217; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
"I can't believe you really think that the iPhone 5 shouldn't be compared to the SIII."
Please re-read my comment and I dare you to find any sentence that states I didn't think the iPhone 5 should be compared to the GSIII. Just to save you some time here is exactly what I said:
"So, wouldn't it be better to compare it to phones that have been announced recently that are more up to date on technology"
Wouldn't it be BETTER to compare it to...
I didn't say that they shouldn't compare it, but rather suggesting that it would have been BETTER to compare it to phones that are about to come out. So, I suggest in the future that you read the comment in a cool manner before jumping to conclusions and reading too much into it. The point of my comment was simply pointing out this, almost, ploy of PC World to announce the iPhone 5 as the fastest smartphone when they know it will be short-lived. They know what smartphones are going to be released in the short amount of time after this article was written because they have written news articles on said smartphones. I don't remember PC World announcing any Android phone as the fastest smartphone in any articles, do you? If you do, please post it because I just did a search and could not find one.
140. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
You never said it, but you were suggesting that it shouldn't be compared to the SGIII.
First you say, it shouldn't be compared at all because of technology, then you go on to say that it should be compared to the Note II. Sounds like you're desperate to see the iPhone beaten.
"Performance was excellent in my tests. The Qualcomm S4 chip running at 1.5GHz is the fastest one we've seen in smartphones so far, and it's able to take on any app challenge you throw at it, including games on the HD screen."
- PC Mag on the Samsung Galaxy S III. You're welcome.
149. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1217; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I was suggesting that they compare the iPhone 5 to something more current. I NEVER in my comment wrote that they shouldn't be compared at all. Once again, I am going to suggest you go back and re-read my comment. I said it would have been BETTER to have compared it to the smartphones that HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANNOUNCED and are going to be released within the next month. I'm not suggesting that either of those phones are faster because they may still lose in the benchmark tests, but the point is that if you are going to be a credible source you shouldn't announce something is the "fastest smartphone in the land" a month or two before something WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT has the possibility of beating it. If this situation was different, and the Optimus G and the Note II were not even announced until two months from now, then it would be a different story. However, both of these devices were announced about two weeks before the iPhone 5. I think they should get some kind of recognition, but hopefully that time will come later on.
Also, there is a difference between having the title that everyone will see that says "iPhone 5 Benchmarked: The Fastest Smartphone in the Land" and two sentences within a review of the GSIII. Everyone will see the title, not as many people will read those two sentences. It still proves my point that PC Mag (excuse my earlier comment's typo of "PC World") is being more biased towards the iPhone 5 than other smartphones.
Finally, you said in your first comment how people weren't up in arms when the GSIII was compared to the iPhone 4S, but really that is trying to compare apples to oranges. In this case, we have two devices that were announced about two weeks prior to the iPhone 5. Both of the specifications of said devices were known about as well. If, in your case, the iPhone 5 was announced two weeks prior to the SIII but not yet released while the SIII was, and people were saying that the SIII was the fastest smartphone in the world then that would be wrong. We both know if that was the case, then you would be up in arms as well as myself. However, in this situation, you instead are trying to say that I'm just trying to see the iPhone 5 beaten. In actuality, I just want to see how this phone really stacks up against the latest hardware AND software (Jelly Bean does make a considerable difference in benchmarks) from the Android side. I could say that you just want the iPhone 5 to be compared to older smartphones and seen as winning, but I am not going to assume that. It would be petty and naive to make such assumptions.
Just for your information, I would have just preferred them to have titled the article "iPhone 5: Benchmarked" instead of just throwing out the "fastest smartphone in the land" in the title.
157. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
The problem with what you're saying is that there will always be another Android device around the corner. 2 months from now, I bet we'll have the specs for the next nexus and info on other upcoming devices. The One X just launched in May and there's already specs for the One X+. It's a never ending wait.
And to be 100% honest, these specs really mean nothing at all to me. iPhone has always been plenty fast and I'm never disappointed when it comes to speed. But it is kinda a big deal to Android users (the ones that always call the iPhone outdated) to come in at #1 because its beating Android at its own game. That's why I don't really blame them for announcing it, as opposed to "Note is fastest phone"
141. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Maybe I'm just crazy but I do remember you referring to the comparison as "a problem." You suggest waiting 2 months before doing a comparison (which is pretty stupid by the way), but for some reason comparing to the SIII is a "problem" even though it was released a little over 3 months ago. You're just desperate to see an android phone beat the iphone, and that's pretty much the depth of it.
171. _atlien_ (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
I hope you Apple spec fans are still willing to comment when the S4 processors get updated to Androi 4.1 JellyBean.
Something tells me that will quiet you all.
172. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Don't sound like such a fanboy. My friend has the SIII (which by the way I convinced him to buy) and he rooted to get stock Jingerbread. My iPhone 5 is still faster than his, in a browser sped test anyway.
175. JunitoNH (Posts: 1848; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
Good point, but you know they love making excuses. It doesn't matter if they have 52 cores. Is all about OS optimization. Anyway, +1 muchacho.
61. VebbX (Posts: 41; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
It has alread been done ;) And the prosessor i faster than the prosessor in LG Optimus G, because iOS i coded in a lot less demanding OS than Android. So alle the other new phones are right behind. If you nly look on the ARM chip in the new LG O-G, than it is a lot more owerfull chip, but because the Android OS is more demanding ;)
63. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Anandtech compared it to the Optimus G...and it still won.
137. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1217; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I think you should've mentioned that the LG Optimus G was running Android 4.0.4 while running those tests. I think you will see some of those benchmarks improve once it upgrades to the latest Android build.
138. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1217; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
"BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it."
Not to mention that the LG Optimus G actually beat the iPhone 5 in the Egpyt HD offscreen 1080p test. I theorize that the reason the LG Optimus G was behind the iPhone 5 in the Egypt HD (using the device's native resolution) was partly because the resolution that the Optimus G was pumping out was higher than that of the iPhone 5 (1280 x 720 compared to 1136 x 640). While the resolution differences may be small, they can make a difference in performance scores.
151. tedkord (Posts: 11911; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's compared to beta software. The G isn't released yet, you can't compare unfinalized to to finalized.
109. tedkord (Posts: 11911; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Absolutely its a fair comparison. The SGS3 is its biggest competitor. I could see if they were benching the SGS2 against it, but the 3 is current.
The iPhone 5 has impressive numbers, and who didn't believe it would? Its still not the best phone for me, but its right for many.
Where the comparison falls apart is in the capability differences. The Samsung, by virtue of being an android device, does things differently. Benchmarks based on multitasking would be dominated by the SGS3.
Its like comparing a race car to a Honda Accord. The Accord is solid, gets you where you need to go with much better mileage. But if you need to hit 150 or 200mph, you're in trouble.
124. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Note II is just a clock speed increase over GS3, it won't beat an A6 that way, not without special benchmarks. The Optimus G, assuming their engineers did it right, will be fine.
93. intos (Posts: 90; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
thats why apple dont dare to put widgets to the iphone and they keep same this s**tty os in so many years... this company moves like a turtle...