PC Mag says Apple iPhone 5 is the fastest smartphone in the land
0. phoneArena 22 Sep 2012, 02:10 posted on
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6. rgxVOiD (Posts: 420; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
Yes. Just comparing with GSIII and Razr M doesn't make it the fastest phone in the world.
13. Mercenary (Posts: 60; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
Of course there is nothing called the fastest in the world..because there is always something better that will come in the future..but let's say it's the fastest in the market yet.
Anyway..I don't really care about the benchmarks and power..
Why do I need an intel core i7 extreme in an iPhone if the dual core processor is doing a great job with no lag and can run every application smoothly??
It's not about having the best specs..
Note:I don't have an iPhone and not planning to buy one.
20. Dr.Phil (Posts: 788; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Yes, there is a problem. The problem is that one of the phones this benchmark compared the iPhone 5 to was a phone that was announced in May and released in June (although it was released in May internationally). Of course, I am speaking of the GSIII. So, wouldn't it be better to compare it to phones that have been announced recently that are more up to date on technology, such as the Galaxy Note II and the LG Optimus G? (And before you start to say: "Well we can't compare it to those devices because they haven't come out yet..." Just know that these devices have been benchmarked and their release dates are within the next two months.) So, while PC World may TECHNICALLY be able to say it's the fastest phone in the world right now, it will be short lived. It almost begs the question of why even crown it when you know it's going to dethroned in a short period of time?
32. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Lol, I can't believe you really think that the iPhone 5 shouldn't be compared to the SIII. May/June was not that long ago. You guys never had a problem comparing the SIII to the iPhone 4S, lol. The Note II would be an interesting comparison, but I think SGIII is more in the same category smartphone than the Note II.
46. Quezdagreat (Posts: 365; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
Thank you, these are the same guys getting happy because the s3 outsold the iPhone 4S last quarter.
56. Slammer (Posts: 672; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
This is why I hate these tests.
While I don't have a problem with benchmark tests against a company's predecessors, I do have a problem in making them against competition. Technology leapfrogs very quickly which inherently leaves the many previously issued devices behind once again. It may be fun for geeks but, all it does is confuse the mainstream public.
Consumers really need to take the same mindset they use when purchasing PCs and migrate over to smartphones and other mobile devices. --Purchase the most you can with what you can afford--. Because next month, it will only be outdated.
62. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Nope. Moore's Law isn't consistent. The iPhone 4S was a minor upgrade. Buyers could've skipped it. The Galaxy S III isn't that much better than the S II. They could've skipped it and waited for the S IV. iPhones are predictable since there's only one a year. Android phones release two or three flagship phones a year per company and then there's a bunch of midrange and budget models. What is major and what is marginal, the benchmarks and the reviews will help make the decision. I feel sorry for people who just bought the Xperia Ion and now the Xperia T has suddenly come out.
111. Slammer (Posts: 672; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Very true aoikemono27.
My original point was rather vague.
PCworld's article is current as of today. Unfortunately, the iPhone will not change for another year. Tomorrow, an Android manufacturer could release twice the speed and then something faster months from now. It is important that consumers realize this difference. That is why when tests of this nature are conducted, the use of more information should be implemented in helping consumers with choice.
Personal question. When setting an iphone5 with its specs next to the iPhone4s, which one would you choose to carry you through the next 2years? Same with the Galaxy S3 vs the S2? Whether an Apple supporter or Android, consumers need to recognize this.
Apple has one iphone launch annually. Their consumer contracts tend to expire around this time due to previous purchases. So yes, predictability in this case is good. However, Android launches throughout the year and their consumers contracts do too although not consistant with launches. This means while Apple is it today at this moment, the consumer has a great choice. Tomorrow could be a different story.
71. satanrules (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
That's another reason why people prefer iOS over Android.
125. remtothemax (Posts: 170; Member since: 02 May 2012)
well...statistically speaking this isn't true
you don't need to look far to find the stats about android having somewhere around 50% of the american/world market
not that it really matters
buy the phone you love
it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks about the need for fashion and trend or super processors and customizability
136. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1325; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
NO they prefer Apple because of it's marketing and popularity. Ask any average user they don't even know wtf iOS is
150. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
People prefer Android by a more than 3 to 1 margin.
139. Dr.Phil (Posts: 788; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
"I can't believe you really think that the iPhone 5 shouldn't be compared to the SIII."
Please re-read my comment and I dare you to find any sentence that states I didn't think the iPhone 5 should be compared to the GSIII. Just to save you some time here is exactly what I said:
"So, wouldn't it be better to compare it to phones that have been announced recently that are more up to date on technology"
Wouldn't it be BETTER to compare it to...
I didn't say that they shouldn't compare it, but rather suggesting that it would have been BETTER to compare it to phones that are about to come out. So, I suggest in the future that you read the comment in a cool manner before jumping to conclusions and reading too much into it. The point of my comment was simply pointing out this, almost, ploy of PC World to announce the iPhone 5 as the fastest smartphone when they know it will be short-lived. They know what smartphones are going to be released in the short amount of time after this article was written because they have written news articles on said smartphones. I don't remember PC World announcing any Android phone as the fastest smartphone in any articles, do you? If you do, please post it because I just did a search and could not find one.
140. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
You never said it, but you were suggesting that it shouldn't be compared to the SGIII.
First you say, it shouldn't be compared at all because of technology, then you go on to say that it should be compared to the Note II. Sounds like you're desperate to see the iPhone beaten.
"Performance was excellent in my tests. The Qualcomm S4 chip running at 1.5GHz is the fastest one we've seen in smartphones so far, and it's able to take on any app challenge you throw at it, including games on the HD screen."
- PC Mag on the Samsung Galaxy S III. You're welcome.
149. Dr.Phil (Posts: 788; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I was suggesting that they compare the iPhone 5 to something more current. I NEVER in my comment wrote that they shouldn't be compared at all. Once again, I am going to suggest you go back and re-read my comment. I said it would have been BETTER to have compared it to the smartphones that HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANNOUNCED and are going to be released within the next month. I'm not suggesting that either of those phones are faster because they may still lose in the benchmark tests, but the point is that if you are going to be a credible source you shouldn't announce something is the "fastest smartphone in the land" a month or two before something WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT has the possibility of beating it. If this situation was different, and the Optimus G and the Note II were not even announced until two months from now, then it would be a different story. However, both of these devices were announced about two weeks before the iPhone 5. I think they should get some kind of recognition, but hopefully that time will come later on.
Also, there is a difference between having the title that everyone will see that says "iPhone 5 Benchmarked: The Fastest Smartphone in the Land" and two sentences within a review of the GSIII. Everyone will see the title, not as many people will read those two sentences. It still proves my point that PC Mag (excuse my earlier comment's typo of "PC World") is being more biased towards the iPhone 5 than other smartphones.
Finally, you said in your first comment how people weren't up in arms when the GSIII was compared to the iPhone 4S, but really that is trying to compare apples to oranges. In this case, we have two devices that were announced about two weeks prior to the iPhone 5. Both of the specifications of said devices were known about as well. If, in your case, the iPhone 5 was announced two weeks prior to the SIII but not yet released while the SIII was, and people were saying that the SIII was the fastest smartphone in the world then that would be wrong. We both know if that was the case, then you would be up in arms as well as myself. However, in this situation, you instead are trying to say that I'm just trying to see the iPhone 5 beaten. In actuality, I just want to see how this phone really stacks up against the latest hardware AND software (Jelly Bean does make a considerable difference in benchmarks) from the Android side. I could say that you just want the iPhone 5 to be compared to older smartphones and seen as winning, but I am not going to assume that. It would be petty and naive to make such assumptions.
Just for your information, I would have just preferred them to have titled the article "iPhone 5: Benchmarked" instead of just throwing out the "fastest smartphone in the land" in the title.
157. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
The problem with what you're saying is that there will always be another Android device around the corner. 2 months from now, I bet we'll have the specs for the next nexus and info on other upcoming devices. The One X just launched in May and there's already specs for the One X+. It's a never ending wait.
And to be 100% honest, these specs really mean nothing at all to me. iPhone has always been plenty fast and I'm never disappointed when it comes to speed. But it is kinda a big deal to Android users (the ones that always call the iPhone outdated) to come in at #1 because its beating Android at its own game. That's why I don't really blame them for announcing it, as opposed to "Note is fastest phone"
141. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Maybe I'm just crazy but I do remember you referring to the comparison as "a problem." You suggest waiting 2 months before doing a comparison (which is pretty stupid by the way), but for some reason comparing to the SIII is a "problem" even though it was released a little over 3 months ago. You're just desperate to see an android phone beat the iphone, and that's pretty much the depth of it.
171. _atlien_ (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
I hope you Apple spec fans are still willing to comment when the S4 processors get updated to Androi 4.1 JellyBean.
Something tells me that will quiet you all.
172. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Don't sound like such a fanboy. My friend has the SIII (which by the way I convinced him to buy) and he rooted to get stock Jingerbread. My iPhone 5 is still faster than his, in a browser sped test anyway.
175. JunitoNH (Posts: 646; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
Good point, but you know they love making excuses. It doesn't matter if they have 52 cores. Is all about OS optimization. Anyway, +1 muchacho.
61. VebbX (Posts: 41; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
It has alread been done ;) And the prosessor i faster than the prosessor in LG Optimus G, because iOS i coded in a lot less demanding OS than Android. So alle the other new phones are right behind. If you nly look on the ARM chip in the new LG O-G, than it is a lot more owerfull chip, but because the Android OS is more demanding ;)
63. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Anandtech compared it to the Optimus G...and it still won.
137. Dr.Phil (Posts: 788; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I think you should've mentioned that the LG Optimus G was running Android 4.0.4 while running those tests. I think you will see some of those benchmarks improve once it upgrades to the latest Android build.
138. Dr.Phil (Posts: 788; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
"BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it."
Not to mention that the LG Optimus G actually beat the iPhone 5 in the Egpyt HD offscreen 1080p test. I theorize that the reason the LG Optimus G was behind the iPhone 5 in the Egypt HD (using the device's native resolution) was partly because the resolution that the Optimus G was pumping out was higher than that of the iPhone 5 (1280 x 720 compared to 1136 x 640). While the resolution differences may be small, they can make a difference in performance scores.
151. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's compared to beta software. The G isn't released yet, you can't compare unfinalized to to finalized.
109. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Absolutely its a fair comparison. The SGS3 is its biggest competitor. I could see if they were benching the SGS2 against it, but the 3 is current.
The iPhone 5 has impressive numbers, and who didn't believe it would? Its still not the best phone for me, but its right for many.
Where the comparison falls apart is in the capability differences. The Samsung, by virtue of being an android device, does things differently. Benchmarks based on multitasking would be dominated by the SGS3.
Its like comparing a race car to a Honda Accord. The Accord is solid, gets you where you need to go with much better mileage. But if you need to hit 150 or 200mph, you're in trouble.
124. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Note II is just a clock speed increase over GS3, it won't beat an A6 that way, not without special benchmarks. The Optimus G, assuming their engineers did it right, will be fine.
93. intos (Posts: 77; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
thats why apple dont dare to put widgets to the iphone and they keep same this s**tty os in so many years... this company moves like a turtle...
165. ph00ny (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 May 2011)
So um Galaxy Note 10.1 scores 1829, Galaxy S3 (quad) scores 1753...
15. iphoneWOW (banned) (Posts: 3; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
android phones are pathetic: I remember when the nexus came our all the fandroids was harking about how perfect it was yet months later when something better came along well than people start saying things like "pentile stinks" and there are lags because it ran on a slowA@@ tiomap--- OH and lets not forget about the embarassing camera> LOL just stfu fandroids yaLL and been beaten down!!!
18. Sniggly (Posts: 6193; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The iPhone 5 may run better than the Galaxy Nexus, but at least some of us "fandroids" are able to communicate in proper English.
Besides, the Nexus was a beastly phone when it was released, camera aside. Specs wise the iPhone 5 will be crushed like a cockroach under the boot heel of the Galaxy Note 2, considering even the S3, with half the Note 2's processing power, already edges the iPhone 5 on these tests when updated to Jelly Bean, which the Note 2 will run out of the box.
And of course the iPhone 5 will still outsell any other single model for now, but don't fret; the Android Alliance is still here and still growing stronger every day. And even if Android will someday die, just remember: for a significant amount of time, Android completely dominated any other mobile OS in adoption and changed the landscape of smartphone accessibility for good. For a significant amount of time, Android wrested control from the hands of those who sought to dictate the terms of how we use our smartphones. For a time, Android kicked the s**t out of the Apple Empire and made them SCRAMBLE to compete.
Oh yes, Android will fade from history, but it's already left its goddamn mark, and its a mark that the people of the world on both sides of this conflict will remember for a long time. You will NEVER be able to take that away from Android, no matter what happens in the coming years.
And that's why I chuckle at the bulls**t mud slinging that we all engage in over these issues. I accept the future for what it is, but DAMN, I'm going to enjoy the ride while it lasts.
28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3263; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
How does the Note 2 have twice the processing power of the GS3 when it just has a higher clock speed by 200 MHz?
39. Sniggly (Posts: 6193; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The Note 2 has a quad core Exynos versus the dual core snapdragon that they are undoubtedly looking at in the US versions of the S3.
40. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3263; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
There's something fishy about those GeekBench scores.
Usually, the GS3 (US and international) scores between 1,600 and 1,800; yet these are set at 1,400? Something seems not right.
65. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Anandtech looked at the international S3, which got destroyed, the international HOX, AND the LG Optimus G. iPhone 5 was still the winner.
98. Sniggly (Posts: 6193; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Anandtech's benchmarks always favor Apple.
104. Hemlocke (unregistered)
They aren't the only ones proclaiming it, and some of the assertions are just fact, like the massive gap between the SGX543MP3 and the GeForce and Mali 400 GPUs. The fact that it does this at much lower clock speeds is even more impressive.
176. JunitoNH (Posts: 646; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
oh please give it break. Yeah they favor Apple, when they beat Android.
36. matrix_neo (Posts: 305; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Very well said... Sniggly. Your English is so awesome. Why don't you apply as a writer here in PA?
37. SGSatlantis (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
They may take away our benchmarks, but they'll never take our money!
152. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Yes they will. By driving up the price of our chosen devices through legal fees. They already have taken our money.
43. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Hey, you gotta give credit to Apple for the design of this chip.
52. MISTER.H (banned) (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
What design.... they just stamped a sign and that's all. Design what? they asked Samsung to under clock the cpu.
142. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Wrong. The A6 is completely in-house design, and it is a custom design. Samsung may not even have fabbed these, since TSMC was known to be doing a run of them earlier this year. As a matter of fact, the A6 is the only potentially Samsung-sourced component on the iPhone 5. The mobile division is going to have to do some explaining to the manufacturing division about the lost revenue streams.
153. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It's not a completely in house design. It's a modified ARM processor. Yes, they did mod the design, but it's not a ground up new cpu.
177. JunitoNH (Posts: 646; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
You are a foolish child. If Samsung was the designer of the chip, it already would had been incorporated into their devices.
51. Windsponge (Posts: 89; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
Just want know what drugs are you taking? Must be good.
60. Sniggly (Posts: 6193; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Whatever they are, they allow me to taste sounds.
101. cptbeatstix (Posts: 101; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
Reading this seriously made me think I was back in combat prepping for a mission. Good words man.
29. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
Well at least android gets something new every few months, it took apple what, 2 years to change the iphone 4 (the 4s i still a 4, changes vere pathetic) and they did what, a 0.5" more on the screen and 200mhz more? in the automotive industry this is all called facelifting and you get a designation like 4f, there is nothing really new about the iphone since it came out in 2007 (it was revolutionary then, even i dont doubt that).
Headphone jack on the bottom... AWESOME feature, maybe the 4sfg will have it on the side lmao
34. E.N. (Posts: 2216; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Why are you guys such haters? Here we are talking about speed and you come out and talk about screen sizes and headphone jacks, just to troll.
Just say good job and move along.
44. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
You see with apple its either love it or hate it, i fall into the category hate it. Why? coz apple has a tendency to take a lot of money for an obsolete product. What does that matter here? well you se a single pc mag said that it was the fastest, on the other hand there is a couple of milion people that know a dual core 1ghz dual core can not be faster than a quad core 1.5. yet phone arena mostly ignores those few milion people and choses to headline what is bassically a trole article. i love pa video reviews, but the website is another story.
oh and i can not say good job to someone who is trying basically to trick me into buying yesterdays tech. nuff said...
102. cptbeatstix (Posts: 101; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
I just got an iPhone 4S for like 30 bucks. I couldn't justify spending $199 for very little upgrades. Plus I don't ever believe benchmarks, I hacked and overclocked my HTC Sensation and it benchmarked higher than the GS3.
50. MISTER.H (banned) (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
So true. Buying the same phone over and over again....
These people need big HELP. OMG full of unsmart people in this world.
85. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
The clock speed doesn't matter. The design and architecture of the chip (including benchmarks) are what count.
The S3 with Jelly Bean and the Snapdragon S4 with Adreno 230 may beat it by a long shot, but you know that the architecture of the A6 is good when it's only clocked at 1 GHz.
I do agree with you though, on how people just buy a similar phone over and over again, when it comes to iOS. iOS isn't good and iOS 6 is like a downgrade. They need to revamp iOS a LOT.
105. Hemlocke (unregistered)
The S4 Pro with Adreno 320 lost to the iPhone 5, so it is going to be tough to dethrone in 2012.
121. tedkord (Posts: 3388; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Its not just the architecture of the A6, its also the fact that iOS is designed very simplistically. Its trying to do less at all times. That's why Apple won't implement things like widgets and multitasking.
IOS is designed to be a smartphone experience with built in limitations, while Android is designed to be a mini PC experience with few to no limits.