OnePlus One for Europe delayed once again, OnePlus altered a mandatory certification logo
0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2014, 07:33 posted on
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me...
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1. apple4never (Posts: 1046; Member since: 08 May 2013)
haha, later one plus one, no ones gonna wait for "flagship killer" when it isn't even here to kill those flagships, the Z3 is cloase enough and the Z2 is just gonna get cheaper along with the note 3
14. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
In my opinion OnePlus is a just a trololo company. They are just trolling and messing with potential customers and it is pathetic.
20. Beijendorf (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
When Samsung had supply problems with their camera modules, did you claim they were trolling customers? Or when Nokia announced a device in April that still hasn't arrived on the market, did you claim they were trolling customers?
I don't think "trolling" means what you think it means. OnePlus ran into some obstacles, they didn't willingly let their market hype run out into the sand.
22. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Samsung: makes phones
OnePlus: makes hype, makes hunger games, makes marketing gimmick
There is a fundamental difference here.
25. Beijendorf (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Samsung makes hype and marketing gimmicks as well. On top of that they sue critics of their products (in Korea) and hire people to slander the opposition (namely HTC).
OnePlus makes hype, but ran into obstacles when it came to selling their device due to to the OpenSSL bug that affected the world, and now the CE logo issue. Claiming they don't make phones is just ridiculous.
27. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Samsung makes a lot more phones than hype/gimmicks.
OnePlus makes a lot more hype/gimmicks than phones.
Seriously, OnePlus has made a few hundred phones and is allegedly in the process of making 2500 more. This is basically nothing. OnePlus is not even close to meeting 1% of the demand for their phones at this level of production.
What real phone manufacturer would be sitting on their ass spewing more and more hype and gimmicks and not making phones with this level of demand? Obviously, the answer is "none".
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
While Samsung and another manufacturers makes phones OnePlus just makes hype.
OnePlus = delay and then another delay and after that even another delay and so on...
OnePlus says that they will deliver high-end smartphone for mid-range smartphone price but it looks like at the time OnePlus One will be released it will be no more high-end it will be just another mid-ranger.
2. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
Son, there was once a phone, so legendary. Many went out to seek for it but most return with empty hands. Only a selected few were able to feel its full glory and enjoy it.
12. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
That would make a great RPG. "Search of the Legendary OPO"
4. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3579; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Oneplus One NEVER SETTLED in market.
16. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The big cloud of dust surrounding this company never settles.
5. FingerMyApple (unregistered)
European, better settle your homemade Nokia, monster from Asia will never be your love :)
6. sorcio46 (Posts: 422; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Nokia is not European anymore, M$ purchased it.
9. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Nokia is as Finnish as always... They just don't make devices at least for a while now.
36. sorcio46 (Posts: 422; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
A smartphone producer that doesn't produce smartphones means that doesn't exit anymore.
37. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Nokia has a lot more to it... Not just smartphone production... They have software stuff, research centre and networks.
11. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Is that you Wendy?? Missed you so much great to see ya again!! :D
18. Johnnokia (Posts: 861; Member since: 27 May 2012)
We all support Nokia. Not only Europeans..
Nokia will come back in 2016
7. Japultra (Posts: 113; Member since: 16 May 2014)
The correct phrase is "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." as you should have learned from your first mistake, so shame on yourself for falling for it again.
10. GreekGeek (Posts: 1111; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
I have a gut feeling that the more expensive Color OS variant was the one that is actually marketed here, deceitful huh
30. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 468; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
I though Color OS was only for Oppo phones?
13. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Wow, another hurdle caused from within.
It is cursed?
15. gaara6775 (Posts: 738; Member since: 20 May 2014)
People who are waiting for this device better buy something else even xiaomi Mi 3 will do for $350 64gb variant. 1+1=0 made so much hype & could not deliver the product in timely manner. I mean,if you don't have budget don't announce anything or else start selling like xiaomi in small parts then try to make it big. This is becoming oops company.
17. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
One day maybe the scammers at OnePlus will realize they could have sold an enormous number of phones and made tons of money, if they had just been more honest and respected other people more.
They could have skipped the 6+ months of hype, the vapor launches, taken pre-orders, charged a little more, and sold a lot of phones.
Maybe they will run their next scam a little better.
21. Beijendorf (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Scam? Made tons of money?
They are still a reputable company. Name one thing they have done that could be considered "scamming".
As for made lots of money - they pretty much sell these devices at cost. It's their way to land in a market saturated with brands and smartphones. They need to make a name for themselves.
23. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
OnePlus could have sold the 64GB model for $400 instead of $350 and would have sold a lot of phones and made $50 on each one. If they sold a million of them, that'd be $50M profit. That's nothing to sneeze at.
Of course the scenario above is fantasy because OnePlus isn't serious about making phones.
The more a person looks at OnePlus objectively, it is clear that the company focuses almost all their efforts on deceptions and hype and next to zero effort on making phones.
26. Beijendorf (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Nowhere in your reply did you mention a single thing related to your claims of "scamming".
OnePlus set their goal to produce a flagship and sell it at the cheapest possible price, thus making a name for themselves in the market. Having a well-recognized brand on the market is worth billions, not some measly millions.
Now take your dictionary out and look up "scam" and "deception", because you clearly don't know what those words mean.
28. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Promised: "Something better than pre-orders".
Delivered: crap invite system that is universally hated.
Promised: phones that people could buy
Delivered: crap invite system that is universally hated.
Hype: six months of gradual reveal
Reality: vapor launch and no phones
Hype: two more months of hype and gimmicks
Reality: vapor launch #2 and no phones
(I could go on and on, just looking at all the elements of how OnePlus has hidden specs, made deceptive statements about the size of their phone, etc.)
OnePlus obviously knew in advanced they were not going to ever make phones in any serious quantities. They led people to believe that they would. This is deception, plain and simple.
When it comes to OnePlus being a scam, again, collecting personal information on a lot of people without any intention of selling them phones, well, this is a scam, i.e. the data was collected for a fradulent purpose.
(and again, I could go on and on. OnePlus is not an honest company and it's easy to show this)
19. nbringer (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
One Plus is doing it wrong. I hope this teaches such companies more respect for the CE.
24. p51d007 (Posts: 158; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)
Think about it this way.
We all know that Oppo, OnePlus are "owned" by Oppo Electronics, and who knows who else. OnePlus does not have manufacturing/assembly plants. They use Oppo's facility to build the device. Both the Find7 & the OnePlus, appear in design, identical. Oppo obviously wants to build Find7 devices, which sell for 499 or 599 (USD) depending on if you get the 7a or the 7.
The One plus, sells for 299 or 349 depending on the 16 or 64gig. Now obviously, most are going to opt for the 64 gig, so if you compare that, to the 599 version, it's a difference of 250 dollars. Now, you let the world know, drum up support to a feverish pitch, have people willing to give their first born, to get one, offer up contests and what not, then you do the old bait & switch. The Find 7 is somewhat available, and the OnePlus isn't. People end up getting frustrated, and say, well, I was going to buy a new Samsung/HTC/Nokia off contract anyway, so I was going to spend 500-700 dollars on a phone, and the Find7 looks a lot like the OnePlus, what the heck, I'll just buy it anyway. Oppo corporation just made an extra 250 dollars, by selling a Find7, instead of the OnePlus.
29. roscuthiii (Posts: 1949; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Bear with me on this anecdote:
In high school, I had this amazing crush on my neighbor. She was truly a beauty to behold. We were friendly, I had her number. We would talk, but she was never available to go out it seemed.
Flash forward to the ten-year reunion... She was still quite attractive, at least as beautiful as any woman there at the reunion. She even asked me to dance. I couldn't believe it... SHE was finally ready to dance with ME!
But, I wasn't so sure I wanted to dance with her anymore. She kept asking, I kept deferring. Her invitations turned to pleading. I said no.
By that point, I'd been in conversation with her friend, we'd warmed up to each other... And eventually, I took home her friend instead.
There's a parallel to be found here, methinks.
32. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 468; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
OnePlus makes so much hype, but couldn't quite live up to it. This invite system is still ridiculous, and they're even delaying the phone to those who got invites.
This is a real shame. OnePlus's team should really plan things out very carefully. Not all people are patient enough to wait.
33. ZombieHunter (Posts: 41; Member since: 13 Oct 2013)
If they are having these many problems before releasing.... I imagine that it will occur frequently after it is released.... it may be a "Flagship Killer" when released, but I think the actual support will fail quickly leaving the owners of the phone to mod themselves and wait and wait for any support. I lost confidence in this company and I am no longer going to buy one.
35. housry23 (Posts: 117; Member since: 03 Jun 2012)
If you look at the CE markings on other top brands, they also alter the font to match their styling. I'm talking about MAJOR players in the electronic world. Now...it's still OnePlus fault this happened, but EU customs may be trolling the small guy. There is photographic evidence that HTC, Logitech, Beats and other big brands CE markings don't match up and didn't get rejected.http://forums.oneplus.net/thre