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Older Apple devices won’t get all iOS 7 features: is fragmentation lurking in?

0. phoneArena 11 Jun 2013, 09:24 posted on

Apple has taken great pride in its non-fragmented iOS ecosystem. At least, it has presented it that way, trying to make the point that Android in contrast…

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posted on 11 Jun 2013, 11:17 2

40. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Soooooooo TRUE!!!
lmfao

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:23 3

23. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)


The iPhone did not have fragmentation before because it did not have many handsets .but now that they do have ,see what happens .and its only 4 or 5 devices..And they say that Android is the one..FYI Android has thousands of different devices with many different Hardware so fragmentation is possible..

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:44 7

30. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


iOS has always been inferior..... sorry for the truth

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:34 4

3. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Dang it... the iphone 4 is practically out dated... Thats (a) bad Apple!

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:10 5

19. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Its almost 4 yrs old yes it is out dated. How long do you expect a phone to last. Damn boy

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:50 4

33. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


If by 4, you mean 3, then you would be correct. That said, it is old by today's technology standards. I'm guessing there was disappointment among those with upgrades with no new idevice announced.

I know was disappointed there wasn't anything announced at Google I/O. But after all it was a developer's conference, and Google did a great job of making sure it was geared towards that.

Apple, on the other hand, resorted to calling people out, while simultaneously shedding little to no information on new developer tools. Regardless of what people want to think, iOS7 is all about playing catch up to the rest of the field.

And they lifted ideas from everywhere.

This is why I cannot stand their litigious nature and way they go about business. How can they seriously be so adamant about suing everyone under the sun when they are guilty of the same tactics???

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:58 2

37. bucky (Posts: 2696; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


It's actually 4 years old this summer and best part is its still run smoother than android.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 12:41 6

55. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Release date: 24 June 2010.

Spoken like a true fanboy. Apple would be proud. .........That you are so easy to fool.

posted on 12 Jun 2013, 03:08

105. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


maxican16:

You need to discern "actual basis" versus "calendar basis".

On a calendar basis, it's 4 years: 2010 being the first year, 2011 being the second year, 2012 being the third year, and the 2013 being the fourth year.

posted on 12 Jun 2013, 08:04

111. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


These are mobile phones, not cars.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 13:55 4

68. Feanor (Posts: 733; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


It's easy to run smooth when you are so light in features...

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 12:52 1

58. Hallucinator (Posts: 387; Member since: 24 May 2010)


They never announce the iphone at the wwdc. This is nothing new.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 15:57 1

78. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Ah, didn't know. But makes sense.. it is a developers conference after all, which was my point. Thanks for the info.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 12:56

61. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


The litigious nature is because companies like Samdung steal IP. It takes an Apple to take on a copyist like Samdung.

Second, because Apple is secretive, unless you work there, you have no idea what Apple has worked on or not.

Thirds, as a general comment, you can't patent ideas per se.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 15:45 3

75. willard12 (Posts: 1722; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Can you name something (any 1 thing) invented by Apple that was stolen? This does not include apps that they bought or things they STOLE like slide to unlock. It's a little ironic that you're bringing up the "copy" charge in an article about iOS 7 considering all of thes thing that apple "adopted."

posted on 12 Jun 2013, 03:11

106. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


willard12, did you not read the summary judgement against Samdung?

I think not.

If you had read the summary, then answering your question is a fool's errand.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 16:04 3

79. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Samdung??

Your fanboyism precludes you from having rational arguments.

Did you not see how much Apple lifted from everywhere? What goes around comes around. BUT, not everyone cries about it like Apple. Most are mature enough to avoid the crass remarks ("thermonuclear war" and the like), and brave enough to let the products stand on their own.

Seeing as though you didn't add anything to the discussion anyhow I'll happily move on. Have a good one.

posted on 12 Jun 2013, 03:15

107. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


mexican16: I am a patent holder; even I "lifted" from someone.

In my patent filing, I referenced the idea that was "lifted" and was still awarded my patent as required by established patent practice.

There is nothing in the patent law that precludes one from patenting on an existing idea. I just built a better mousetrap, lifting ideas from previous mousetraps.

posted on 12 Jun 2013, 08:06

112. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Let's say you truly are a patent holder (stranger things have happened). You had to reference and give credit where it was due to obtain your patent. You couldn't claim it was all original. Spouting off words that skew the point don't win arguments.

I know guys like you, I see them in my industry all the time... you divert and distract and never really say or accomplish anything of value.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 12:29 1

54. tedkord (Posts: 12281; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It may have come out over 3 years ago, but they are still selling them new (or giving them free on contract), and indications are they're making up a large percentage of iPhone sales in the US.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:36 7

4. gaurang (Posts: 94; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)


whats the reason for the 4 and 4s for not getting filters....no like its an cpu intensive task

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:37 10

5. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


iOS has been fragment since iOS 6 when they told us original iPad owners no more updates. And does app support count? Because there are certain apps you can not download on the original iPad either because of hardware restrictions. Doesn't that also qualify as fragmentation?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:47

10. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Does this also mean we are going to see Apple devices taking part in the super-hardware race to the finish like which does not exist?

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:57 6

13. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


There are also apps that the iPhone 4 can't play or open.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 10:13 6

21. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Was gonna say the same thing. My son has an ipod 4 touch and a lot of the new games wont play on it and lock up his device. Its been like this at least a year. Apple needs to stop lying to its customers.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 22:50 1

98. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly.

"Older Apple devices won’t get all iOS 7 features: is fragmentation lurking in?"

Lurking in? Its been here for a few years now...its just that many ppl like to throw fragmentation at Android and Android only.

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:37 5

6. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Apple only wants those still holding on to their old iDevices to switch..

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:37 8

7. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Older Apple devices won’t get all iOS 7 features: is fragmentation lurking in?
YES!!!

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:40 5

8. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


'Older Apple devices won't get all iOS 7 features: is fragmentation lurking in?'

iFragmentAtion ftw !!!!

Will the new iTunes still work on older Apple devices??

posted on 11 Jun 2013, 09:43 8

9. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4482; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I don't get how this is new. Everytime they bring out a new version of iOS, some models (usually 2 back and older) don't receive 1/4 to 1/3 of the features. One of my nephews got an ip4 weeks before the 4s came out. People always ask him about Siri, but he never got it. This happens with any OS, some of the new features are due to a hardware upgrade, and there are no ways around it. I believe the reason Siri didn't happen for the ip4 was something to do with the type of mics. But you can't really call out other companies when you have the same thing happening in your product catalog.

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