Now that we have iPhone 5, would the next big thing be a new Nexus phone from Google?
0. phoneArena 13 Sep 2012, 09:53 posted on
The Apple iPhone 5 is out and it’s a solid upgrade all over - bigger, 4-inch screen, 4G LTE and 2x faster processor and graphics…
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1. FrostyDanny (Posts: 90; Member since: 15 Jul 2012)
I want a Nexus phone made by HTC that would be one awesome phone design and specs! PS make sure Verizon gets its lol
11. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
one would hope.
the gnex was a huge let down. even for samsung standards.
22. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Why was the GN a huge let down? I have had the phone since launch day and have not had any issues other than my addiction to flashing different kernels and such...
26. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
That's sortof your opinion, it seems most people like the phone. Verizon, on the other hand, neutered it so blame them
37. bloodline (Posts: 703; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Gn has been the best phone I have ever used. In terms of design itself it was totally underrated. Everytime I get it out everyone wants to know what it.
And IMO pure android is the best OS available
46. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
1. "verizon neutered it"
2. faulty charging port (such a pita)
3. ICS is NOT as smooth as promised
4. JB rollout is NOT as quick as promised (for gnex)
and ive read articles and talked with people that share this opinion. i was in love with this phone before and after purchase for a few months. but since then its been let down after let down.
67. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
1. I fail to understand how Verizon neutered this phone, other than having to install updates myself it's identical to other carriers.
2. Faulty charging port? Mine works fine.
3. Oh shut the f**k up about ICS not being smooth.
4. I was running JB within 24 hours of the announcement.
74. infinitemethod (Posts: 141; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
1. I think he means that being a Nexus, it should've had JB on it way before now on Verizon.
2. I actually just had the charge port start showing signs up messing up on mine. Doesn't really bother me, a simple battery pull fixed the issue but it was annoying.
3. ICS I thought was very smooth on my phone. Then I put JB on it and it's lightning fast! Ooops, shoud I not use the word lightning anymore? I don't wanna get sued....
4. JB is the ish. Well played, sir!
78. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
its not a software issue. you may think that you did something, but you didn't. the flange inside the port becomes bent easily. this can cause the phone to act very strange. if you reset or do a battery pull, it might help for a bit, but until you bend that flange back, it will continue and only get worse. this is a known issue that verizon nor samsung will admit to, because they dont want to offer you a referb just for a $.01 port flange.
from hardware to software to customer support, the phone is a let down. say what you will and defend it all you want, but im done with android.
76. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
ICS isnt smooth.
one of the main reasons i bought a nexus branded phone was so that i could get timely updates. i can root and flash roms, but its not something i like to do. i want a premium phone that works well all the time. i dont want a finicky device that requires constant tinkering.
83. E.N. (Posts: 2522; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
ayephoner, I definitely agree with you. When the Galaxy Nexus was announced, everyone made it seem like this was the phone to have...and its not. About the only thing I liked about it was that it was running stock Android. And you're right, ICS wasn't smooth (I don't know about Jellybean though). I don't hate many phones, but the Galaxy Nexus is one of the few that I do.
96. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
My S2 with ICS is incredibly buttery with Nova Launcher. It's awesome.
But yeah, regular ICS wasn't as good as promised.
145. joey_sfb (Posts: 3981; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
No android phone will ever be smooth enough for you. Just get an iPhone or Windows 8, problem solved.
I running jelly bean on my 2 years old milestone 2. Its smooth just like froyo and gingerbread in term screen navigation no fuss there. The killer function that i like most is google voice search and google now services.
112. downphoenix (Posts: 2634; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
1) They removed google wallet
2) Forced carrier apps on it
3) Did a poor job in promoting the device.
4) Delayed the device
71. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Unlocked gsm with jelly bean out of the box is $350. The phone is great, one of the best deals on the market imo. You should blame your carrier instead.
75. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
but they are all to blame. im unhappy with the product, which is a product of google, samsung and verizon.
89. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if you are unhappy with the product because of the update then you need to scream at VZW. The fact that it's still not updated is beyond stupid. Other phones are getting JB updates before a frikkin Nexus does. The fact that they dared to call it a Nexus and then lock it down like any other phone pissed me off from the get-go. its not a Nexus if its locked down.
That said, its a Nexus, if your tired of waiting, 10 minutes on XDA will fix your issue. I have JB running on my long officially DOA'ed LG-Gslate that didnt even get official 3.2. Its a night and day difference from crappy HC.
The nexus is for tinkerers. Its always been that way.
93. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
im unhappy with verizon because of the update, but moreso due to their customer service. its really, really bad.
im unhappy with samsung due to the hardware. they are getting premium money and obviously cut corners on the charging port. how on earth do you not make that out of durable materials?
and im unhappy with google for android. there were so many promises with ICS, which i loved at first, but over time my phone has lost its stability and sharp response time. im sure JB is great, but its still android...
98. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Then it sounds like you either have some apps bleeding your CPU/RAM and need to look into that, or there is an issue with your phone. I'm running ICS on my old SGS1 without any issues.
Besides, they charge $350 through the play store for the phone for better technology than the i4s which charges $600. Who's getting premium money? Samsung is giving it away by comparison.
And no, JB is as big as an update as ICS was, which was completely surprising. And again, you own a nexus and your not willing to do the basic rom porting to give yourself JB.. so quit complaining. The GN rom port has been out in the wild for quite some time. Get to it.
108. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
try selling the nexus after a year andyou are lucky to get half of what you spend on it. the iphone on the other hand. keeps value further more dont lose money .. with tht iphone you only spend money at the beginning but if smart dont lose money unlike a used Android... thats why the price difference remix.. premium phone that retains value vs a Pure Goggle device that only tinkerers like you say buy
114. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
mate the iphone only holds its price becuase there are only a few options plus the fact (what apple proves countless time after time) the uninformed and wannabe in crwod poeple will pay more just for the bragging. just ashame now people are realising theres nothing to brag about owning an iphone
android, wp8,symbian all technically better then iOS and for people who want choice, freedom and there own unique phone experience
iphone for people who didnt look around for better or just want to part of the so called 'cool' group
117. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Well, everyone goes on with his religion - try to drive an unleashed pony with undefined potential or keep running a good horse in a ranch with no ambitions?
People's OS or one's OS?
Well you already know my pick, I'll keep breeding the pony and the dream!
If the AOSP will be definitely beaten by the industries that want proprietary software, I will be able to say that I enjoyed it until it lasted...
Yes I'm fatalist today...
129. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
The beginning of the end were those that disliked! Skynet will prevail! Where is John?
135. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Nexus devices keep their value. And considering its selling new for 350, i dont think its going to be worthless for quite some time. I just saw the original Nexus 1 still going for over $100 on ebay like 2 days ago with people bidding on it. That phone is what.. 4 years old and it cant even run the newest OS because of its lack of memory.
122. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
It's just that Verizon made it suck. The GNex would have been even better if not for Verizon.
144. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
whatever it is, it shouldnt be anything I need to look into.
you're comparing launch day prices to year old prices. seriously?
i dont want to get to anything. thats why i bought a nexus was for timely updates. i want vanilla android to run smoothly and get updates quickly. android is not for the people they market it to. its laughable.
154. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im pretty sure we warned against buying a phone through a carrier and expecting direct updates. If you want timely updates in america, your ONLY option is to get a factory unlocked set... otherwise, dont bitch if your not willing to do it yourself.
And launch day comparisons to what? the i4s still retails for 600.. has its tech changed since launch? The GN went down in price quite a few months ago now... through Google Play that is.
146. joey_sfb (Posts: 3981; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
"Its still android." Can't understand why you stick with it. When i am unhappy with my nokia c7 after elop's announcement i sold it the same week. And started exploring android which i like over symbian.
Before that i buy every generations of symbian nokia phone because i am happy with it then.
48. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3135; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Am i the only one who got the idea by the headline that the iP5 is a 'Big thing'?
iP4S was a big thing when it was released, nothing can be said about the 5.
God, PA makes it so convincing!!
95. LionStone (Posts: 540; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
That's right Nathan, it'd have to be pretty badass to be a Big thing in the first place, in which case, it wasn't.
61. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
That's your fault if you got the Verizon version, if not, too bad, I have really enjoyed it. GSM ftw
13. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3276; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Why would you want Verizon to get it? So, you can wait months for it to get upgraded to the following iteration of Android while everyone else (except Sprint) gets it right away? Verizon owners of the Galaxy Nexus should be pissed right now. Jellybeans are apparently hard to come by for Big Red.
18. firelightx (Posts: 71; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
Eh. For me, the superior signal quality greatly outweighs the terrible update policy. Particularly because, as a rooted device, I've had Jelly Bean up and running on my V-Nex since 12 hours after JB's announcement. *shrug*
43. Synack (Posts: 670; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I'm on Verizon. Had JB on my GN since 8 hours after Jelly Bean announce.
Thanks to Pure Google, developers, and the wonderful people that got free Nexus's at Google I/O.
In a perfect smartphone world:
Google has the Nexus
Apple has the iPhone
Microsoft has the Lumia
Nothing else matters. But please do thumbs down me because I know all the non-Nexus owners will hate this message.
54. bubbadoes (Posts: 487; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I will thumb you up for being so bold and happy about your Nexus on VW. The phone was never up to standard from the start--especially in the signal arena. The GSIII runs circles around the Nexus in ALL aspects!!. Size, RAM, Speed, Signal, Processor-etc. anything else!!
69. bucky (Posts: 1807; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
The sgs2 ran circles around the gnex as well-particularly in the smoothness and camera.
131. downbeat4 (Posts: 82; Member since: 03 Dec 2010)
Same here...Verizon hasn't stopped me from having JB since it was announced. Hell I wouldn't even want their update....I don't get it?? I just wish I loved my battery(s) as much as my phone!!
66. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
Sony Nexus with 2gb RAM. One can only wish.
68. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Me 2, Love SONY products, along with MPQ8064 Quad-core, clocked at 1.8Ghz...
87. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Troll, you are the definition on a spec whore. No offense lol, it's just a term. Not in 5 years, probably more, would you need as much power as a quad 1.8 GHz S4 Prime. I suppose you want a 1080p display as well with >400 ppi, even though you can't see over 100 of those pixels? Also 2-3 GB RAM? And a >4000 mAh battery, though that I can agree with. You're asking a bit too much for todays standards.
119. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Hey Berzerk how is you? Did you know to run Android full Linux it needs huge power to push cause there are atleast 35+ apps it needs to push, also it is resource hungry, it takes up 600mb of ram!
123. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Even the A9 Quad:core Exynos struggles to push the screen, live wallpapers, 5 to 8 widgets, along having 5 active sync running, the phone becomes slow. So you need huge power to run Android, a perfect chip for any high-end Android set will require a A15 28nm or below with Quad-core clocked 2.0Ghz... Then every-thing on the phone will be not zippy but instant.
137. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Show me an international SGS3 struggling. If the live wallpaper is on, I'd say its a horribly optimized live wallpaper. Try a different one.
125. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
400ppi at that level pictures and movies wil be razor sharp.
138. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
They will be razor sharp even at 300 ppi. You *cannot* tell the difference between 310 ppi and 400 ppi, unless you have a trained eye or a microscope...
126. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
well if its possible on PCs and cars why not on mobile phones....!
139. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Because PCs and cars are bigger than phones, Troll. In order to have what you want, the device would be a brick. If you want a PC, get a PC, don't expect to get a phone and have it run like a desktop
2. shuaibhere (Posts: 1834; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Get ready for next full android experience.........
3. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Motorola Nexus with an Intel chip and Jelly Beans/Key Lime Pie and it'll sell like hot cakes.
4. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
A specs bump that Fandroids will call revolutionary, despite not being cutting edge, what else?
19. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
give an example of revolutionary? define it
21. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Its a Nexus line.. pure Google. You know that thing you like about Apple so much? Thats what we like. Faster updates, pure Google, and its a legacy device as in it will get updates much later ie: Galaxy Nexus 1st phone to get JB. Does that make sense to you?
23. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
It does, but the reaction to the iPhone 5 does not.
27. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9689; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Oh the iPhone 5, which is the biggest disappointment in the iPhone line up that made Apple stock prices fall?
28. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Take into consideration.. Google actually adds things that are NEW and INNOVATIVE. Check the JB change log lol. Thus if anything is revolutionary its that lol not a bump in specs. Android is a completely different beast from the 1st version.. now compare that to iOS where its pretty much exactly the same + some Android flair. Make sense?