November 3rd pegged as launch date for Google Nexus Prime; Verizon pumped about DROID RAZR
0. phoneArena 10 Oct 2011, 22:38 posted on
A source from the "inside" tells Phandroid that Verizon has high hopes for both the Motorola DROID RAZR and the Google Nexus Prime; the latter is scheduled to launch November 3rd with an official announcement coming before that date...
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1. daniyo (Posts: 46; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
what about the vigor or what ever its called?
25. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
clearly they've never seen it or they're not excited about it. ;P
54. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Maybe it's going through the same battery life trials that pushed the Thunderbolt back a month later than expected. At least it hasn't been officially announced yet.
Too bad for HTC, I've moved on to drooling over the Prime.
2. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
question? As sexy as that nexus prime rendering is, why are we still using it? We have straight forward picks of the device from that video from last week.
24. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
that's not a rendering, that's the actual Nexus Prime.
35. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thump3r, he changed it after I said something. It was the original rendering that was the nexus1 all metalliced out. The pic that they are using now is from the video from last week. :)
dont worry.. im not that crazy!! lol :)
3. celtics989 (unregistered)
Let's go prime!!!! My next phone!!!
5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 4704; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Should all of the Bionic owners ask for a refund/credit toward the purchase of a RAZR or Nexus Prime?
12. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
verizon knows how to screw its customers well. if you look at your contract you only get 2 weeks to return your phone if that.
14. SprintLocked (unregistered)
since about a month ago, Sprint has the same policy :-/
39. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
They aren't "screwing their customers", they are protecting themselves.
Anyone who is that upset about it should've known this was coming, there have been rumors floating around about this since the Bionic was released.
It's why I didn't buy the Bionic...
50. hobble (Posts: 130; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
You get 30 days on the phone, 14 days on service.
55. johnfranckiv (Posts: 16; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Through Verizon?... No it's 14 days period. Thats 14 days to cancel your newly signed contract, and 14 days to return the phone. At day 15 enjoy your $350 early tem. fee.
26. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i'm actually starting to get kind of pissed about the Bionic. they should show some kind of initiative to Bionic owners and at least offer them a trade in.
30. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
well I bought the bionic and returned it because of the nexus prime u should have too
31. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the Bionic is my dad's and we're both Motorola fans, for him to switch to a Samsung he would have to know a whole lot more about the phone and if it's worth it, he got the Bionic the day it came out, in the 15 day time window after that there was barely enough known about the Prime and when it would come out to make him go back to the BB8830 he was using after he sold his X a few weeks before. you don't really lose with the Bionic anyway. just a little miffed about the treatment to the people that waited and waited for it.
56. Kitty (unregistered)
36. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you like the device when you buy it, or dont buy it. there should never be an expectation of upgrades, trade ins, ect.
there is nothing wrong with the bionic. it was just late to the party, thats all.
40. ayephoner (Posts: 831; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
it should have been scratched. i hope google produces half as many phones now that they have moto mobile. they launch a handfull of phones every quarter, its way too many.
42. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
there should be when a superior device comes in and steals your device's price tier in one month. people are spending $300 for a phone that just became outdated. people are going to be pissed and i'm sure Verizon realizes that.
45. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
I agree AND I disagree. While it is unfortunate that this happened, I really have little to no sympathy.
Anyone who follows smartphones enough to actually spot the differences between a Bionic and RAZR should've known this was coming... the Bionic was pushed back too far.
It sucks but really... I knew this would happen which is EXACTLY why I didn't get the Bionic!!!
46. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
when the Bionic came out nobody thought the RAZR was going to have LTE or a Super AMOLED screen therefore becoming a superior phone to the Bionic, nobody would consider it to have LTE when we first saw it because of how thin it is, most people just thought it was a world phone to be placed in between the Droid 3 and Droid Bionic. most people that bought a Bionic probably don't follow smartphones. all they'll know is they just bought this kick ass new phone for $300 less than a month ago and then Verizon is going to come out and say "lol jk THIS is what we call a $300 phone"
dude, don't even, you would have never predicted that Motorola would succeed the Bionic in less than a month, that's absurd.
47. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Look, i'm really not trying to argue with you. But if you look at the history of Android phones, and if you look at marketing in general... it was obvious they were going to release a better phone shortly after.
We are coming up on the holiday season, all the carriers are going to have some sort of "flagship" holiday device. The Bionic released in September, that's way too early.
As soon as I saw that Motorola was releasing another device the months leading up to the holiday, I KNEW it was going to be better than the Bionic.
Partly because the Bionic (specs wise) should've come out six months ago. It just isn't going to stand up to what's being released now (assuming there are not major delays on that). But partly because like I said, the Bionic was clearly not their "flagship" holiday device.
You say "you would have never predicted that Motorola would succeed the Bionic in less than a month" but I DID because I did NOT buy the Bionic.
I have two upgrades on my VZW account right now and i'm itching to upgrade because i'm bored of my Tbolt and after getting a taste of my GT10.1 speed I want more! I could've very easily bought the Bionic (which I actually did and returned it after a couple days) and still upgraded in a month or two... but by looking at everything I mentioned above, I made the apparently wise decision to wait.
I understand your frustration, but if you look at what I said and think about the last six weeks or so... it makes sense.
49. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
history doesn't dictate that a phone will be succeeded in a month. you're trying to argue with me because you're arguing with me.
is it? even now the Bionic is still among the very most elite phones in the world. the only phones i say that would beat it are the Sprint & AT&T variants of the Galaxy S II. it didn't matter that it took 6 months to come out because by the time it did it was a brand new phone.
oh did you now? you made the lucky decision to wait this time. there's no real logic behind what Motorola did here. why would they decide to work on two high end devices for Verizon at the same time with projected release dates being a mere month apart from each other? all they would have had to do is completely pass on the Targa and market the Spyder as the Droid Bionic. in the time it probably took them to make the Spyder a reality they probably had enough time to pass on the Targa. this whole situation is ludicrous to Bionic owners. the only reason it makes sense now is because we're looking back now and even now the logic is unjust.
43. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
+1 to you remixfa
This is the blessing and curse of Android phones...it's great to have many, many handsets to choose from, but it's frustrating when the next "superphone" is coming out in just a few weeks/months.
Like you said, make a decision and be happy with it!
6. SprintLocked (unregistered)
Verizon keeps coming with the good stuff... *sigh*
7. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 466; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
Droid RAZR will eventually get ICS, so i'd definitely go for it rather than the Nexus Prime.
27. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
it would depend on if the Prime actually gets Exynos or not, if not i think i'll agree with you for the time being, there's still a lot we don't know about these two.
8. codymws (Posts: 235; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)
See, everyone? Now it isn't so bad that Verizon didn't get the GSII.
9. Goldeneye (Posts: 344; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
That's what I'm saying, who needs the SGS2 with this awsome trio (Prime, RAZR, Vigor) although I'm leaning for the Prime, I also wanna feel the other 2 in my hands, oh yeah
10. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
I still would have bought the Gs2 I like it more than the looks of the prime. and ill never buy another moto product again.. my own reasons for that are not related to cell phones.
but I will most likely wait till the vigor comes out to make my choice
11. warlockz (Posts: 156; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)
Guess I will be sticking with Verizon for another year if this bad boy doesnt get released for Sprint......
13. Allday28 (Posts: 273; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
Ummm isnt the Vigor supposed to be coming out in like a week? Hardly ever hear anything about it.. Silent killer maybe??
18. Fallin (Posts: 54; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)
I was reading that it may come out late October or October 13.
Then from another site it says October 13 or the 20th.
I hope this helps you out some.
15. celtics989 (unregistered)
What worries me is the Verizon version hasn't even passed the FCC yet, while the gsm version has. If Verizon is getting this phone first wouldn't it have been the first nexus phone through the FCC? Im concerned that the nexus might not get on Verizon like the gs2.
16. Scottt (unregistered)
Umm, Isn't that an original Motorola DROID being compared to the Motorola RAZR???
17. ikjoiu (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)
ok Verizon is getting the nexus prime, htc vigour, droid razar, and the lg revolution 2 all this before 2012.......WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
19. applesucks (unregistered)
Why on earth would nexus prime be a verizon exclusive?? Because they passed on the sgs2?? So they told samsung they dont want their crappy "best phone in the world ever" so they get REWARDED with a much better phone exclusive along with exclusives on several other superior phones, like htc vigor, moto razr? So verizon gets all 3 of the 3 best phones in USA, and the others get what, nothing? Maybe Verizon needs to be broken up as a monopoly because ALL 3 major android makers Samsung, HTC, and Moto, seem content to be Verizon slaves. Do those 3 realize releasing on all US carriers means 3-4 times as many sales???? Does that not matter to them if Verizon tells them to give them all their money will they? Verizon sucks, most expensive, even before huge charges just for surfing the web. Sprint with unlimited data is the only one worth using, why do they have the worst phones all of a sudden?
21. warlockz (Posts: 156; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)
Currently have verizon and if prime goes to sprint def going to switch to sprint jus cause of the cheaper plans. They should jus release the info of dates already if not that iphone is looking good.
34. warlockz (Posts: 156; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)
Please I'm not loyal to android or apple whatever company infuses their product with quality and releases it first for the best deal is what I go with. So yea if the prime doesn't come out soon iphone will be the alternative.
28. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
if the Galaxy S II had come to Verizon with the Nexus Prime right around the corner it wouldn't have sold well, Samsung & Verizon would be out of some bucks.
32. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
oh am i wrong? T-Mobile's variant comes out this week and look at how much hype there is for the Prime. Sprint did well to get their variant out when they did.
37. remixfa (Posts: 13882; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
most people dont do research on upcomming phones, they just walk into the store and buy what's there. It would have hurt some sales of the SGS2 if they had both... since obviously some people do research, but not much.
I would assume the SGS2 is going to drop in price after the Nexus drops, that way to better differentiate them since even with an OMAP the nexus will still have more "top end" parts.
44. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
true but if Verizon had gotten the GSII that time window would have been less than a month. if i was Samsung i'd say no deal to a plan that won't get my phone sold in the high-end price tier it deserves to be in.
20. Cinnamon (Posts: 87; Member since: 16 Jun 2011)
I am not being a hater but the razr looks like the bionic...
Motorola should try to think of a new design like Samsung.
29. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the Droid RAZR looks nothing like the Bionic.
22. joey lee (unregistered)
im curious as to how they put the internal parts in the curve body of the PRIME.
23. belovedson (Posts: 806; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
verizon should just release the prime. i am not sure why verizon even puts up a date when a flagship phone will come out they never seem to honor their word. its like they are encouraging the purchase of apple products.
33. Seaweedbouquet (unregistered)
The nexus prime is stock android and no bloatware
38. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
the more and more i see pictures (well the same picture) of the prime make it look smaller and smaller....
48. Dujai R. (Posts: 17; Member since: 12 Oct 2009)
and now all the Droid bionic owners will be sporting a device fallen from grace in less than a month and a half. Its a shame to shell out so money for a device and to be upstaged soon. I guess that's just these corporations or android
52. quesoesgrande (Posts: 192; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
i wish i could get the prime but i sign on for a sensation before i thought it through with the prime and the gs2
also, why can't verizon support the bionic longer? android, big screen, 4g lte, dual core processor, decent camera, etc. excellent phone, my choice if i were on verizon
53. quesoesgrande (Posts: 192; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
htc sensation may beat the next nexus though, who knows
57. Kingofanything (unregistered)
Anyone that complains that any company actually owes you something after you bought a product of theirs, like offering you a refund every time there is a new phone is not only insane, but they should go protest with the occupy wall street idiots. No one owes you anything. Think for yourself, no one twisted your pampered little spoiled arm to buy the bionic. The only one you have to blame are your parents for raising a spoiled little brat that thinks the world owes you whatever you want.
58. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you f**king idiot. try putting the shoe on the other foot. what if you bought a Nexus Prime for $300 on launch day and then one month later Samsung and Google come out with a new phone and they're like "lol jk, THIS is the NEW Nexus with a 1.8GHz processor and a new, thinner, bullet-proof body!" and they price it at $300 same as you just payed for your now out of date Prime. if it were Sprint you could just take it back but since this is Verizon and you have a 14 day return policy it's looking like you got screwed over. this is not a usual circumstance. i wouldn't be whining if the Bionic had even been out for 3-4 months but 1 MONTH!? i payed $300 for a state of the art phone not the predecessor to an even badder phone right after it comes out.
59. Kingofanything (unregistered)
Wholly cow, you made my point for me. Are you an idiot that didn't know the terms of your purchase, cause that is EXACTLY what you are saying. You think that verizon owes you 30 days because why exactly? If you don't like the 14 day policy, which I agree sucks, then leave go to sprint. They are a public company and their "evil" executives that keep hundreds of thousands of people employed owe you exactly 14 days return policy. They also legally can end up in jail if they are not doing their fiduciary responsiblilty for the stock holders, which is making smart decisions and running the business to make a profit to keep providing the best phone service, keep investors interested os theyncan grow and innovate, and employee people! It is exactly your liberal stupid childish communicat thought process that this country is in trouble. It's a free market little lady, go exercise your right to start your own damn company if you think it can be done better or just simply leave Verizon that would be the easiest thing for lazy, do for me,mi need it now, idiot generation.
62. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
of course i knew exactly what i purchased when i purchased it. guess when i purchased it. before the Droid RAZR was anything that could succeed the Bionic. of course it's smart to f**k people over but this was such a blatant disregard to early Bionic adopters that there's going to be other pissed off people like me. don't you think they realize they might lose some customers over such blatant treachery? wait until the RAZR goes mainstream, Bionic owners are going to be pissed. the right thing to do would be to appease the early adopters. Verizon is getting a whole lot more money from me keeping their service than getting a damn phone. how stupid could they be?