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Not will, but should Android ICS beat the iPhone 5 to market?

0. phoneArena 13 Aug 2011, 12:30 posted on

There has been a lot of buzz about the next version of Android - Ice Cream Sandwich - between word that Google is trying to rush out the OS update before iPhone 5 hits the market, and some leaked photos allegedly showing ICS, but the real question is: Should Google even be trying to beat the iPhone 5 to market?

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posted on 14 Aug 2011, 11:25

92. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


if u want flashy, play with sense ver 3.0. its smooth and flashy for those that like it. all sorts of animations and lil things for eye candy. I cant think of a flashier OS or skin.

personally I prefer to keep my battery intact.. lol.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 12:44

95. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


play with a Droid 3. it looks as nice and feels as good as Sense 3.0. i've admitted it before and i'll admit it again. it does get a little studdery if there's too much running in the background because of it's 512MB of RAM but when you clear the cache it's fine. that's the ONLY problem. if the Droid 3 even had 768MB of RAM it would beat the pants off of any other dual-core phone other than a Galaxy S II with Exynos.

posted on 15 Aug 2011, 07:19 1

135. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


EN isnt doing anything wrong. He's free to post wherever he likes. Whatever is right, tech guys post wherever we have an opinion.. and we are full of them! lol. Besides, EN is pretty respectful most of the time.. unlike the iDiots taco and Miz.

Isnt it nice to carry on a conversation with someone from the "other OS" that doesnt act like a spoiled 2nd grader?

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 00:42

58. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


Very good article.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 02:37

72. DKMDROID (Posts: 102; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)


very good article totally agree with it i do strongly believe that yes google had made a competitor to iOS but it acquired Android before the iPhone was released (correct me if im wrong) I do love android and what it stands for and i was shocked to see possible leaked pictures of ICS id like to see more Honeycomb than Gingerbread there's no denying that Apple has a huge following and i doubt releasing the Nexus Prime at the same time wil slow down the iSheep from buying their precious iPhone so i say Google should wait realize what the next Nexus phone is going to be and how it will affect android phones after its release id really like to see a completely different UI as opposed to what i saw in the leaked pics

another idea is that Google should release minor updates to include extra funtionality to their devices so those devices can hold down the fort until the Nexus Prime comes along i also believe that Google should wait for next year even though its a stretch to release ICS with a Quad core processor although i dont see how this will help since there have been articles of google having talks with Texas Instruments and have not said anything of the Nvdia chipsets ...

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 17:52

107. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


You are right, Google acquired Android 2 years before the iPhone first hit shelves. Of course, the rumors of an iPhone had existed since sometime around 1985, but that's how Apple rumors work.

Minor updates don't really work for the way Android is currently rolling. For example, even now, most Gingerbread updates only bring phones to 2.3.3. The minor update to 2.3.4 would give phones with front-facing cameras access to GTalk video chat, but manufacturers already started work on their updates with 2.3.3, and don't bother to make that extra update.

I doub't Google would hold ICS to be able to put a quad-core CPU in the Nexus Prime, but I would be very surprised if the Nexus Tablet (which must be in the works) didn't launch with a quad-core CPU.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 21:00

120. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i dont see a need for a nexus tablet. most honeycomb tablets other than the samsung tab are untouched honeycomb as it is.

While your probably right, I would hope they wouldnt launch with anything less than a souped up (1.5ghz++) exynos core or what I really hope is that they launch the Kal El with the nexus prime. The chip is supposed to be in production now and able to be in phones by the fall if i remember correctly. If thats true, no reason that the NP shouldnt be flying high on a Kal El.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 22:40

123. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


NVIDIA pushed back the dates for Kal-El. Now, it looks like tablets by year's end, and phones by early 2012, so that kills it as being part of the Nexus Prime.

Right now, there's no need for a Nexus Tablet, but the custom UIs are starting to roll in on tablets, meaning slower updates. Of course, many tabs have WiFi-only options, meaning less carrier control, so less need for a pure Google Experience device. Mainly, I'm holding out hope that the Nexus Tab (or any quality tab really) will come out with a good LCD/eInk hybrid display. Tablets are great for reading, but for reading eInk is the way to go. Pixel Qi was okay for the Notion Ink Adam, but the LCD was washed out. I'm holding out hope on the Mirasol displays to make a splash.

posted on 15 Aug 2011, 07:22

136. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


awww man.. u just bummed me out.. thanks Micheal.. lol.

For the first time in my life i was looking forward to enjoying some superman goodness..

i really really dont like superman on a general basis.. hes not a hero if he's invincible.. but i digress..

Oh well, heres to hoping its a souped up exynos chip inside then. Then again, if the hercules actually comes with a crappy snapdragon chip, the Nexus Prime will probably be my only way of getting an exynos.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 02:59

73. Alex (unregistered)


Such a well explained article.. This contains the future of google.. Can you guys show this article to google?

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 17:53

108. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


If you share it enough, I bet some Googlers would see it! Thanks for the comment.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 05:37 3

78. Moo (unregistered)


I used to own an iPhone for almost 3 years. I would not go back to an iPhone though. Android for me is a better fit.

I picked the Nexus S and await ics. I love my Nexus experience so much that I may purchase the new Nexus 3 or Prime and sell my S just for the better hardware specs. I also love the pure android experience. Personally I probably would not ever use a non pure android device.

I do not miss the iPhone at all. I think its because I have been a Linux desktop user since 1998. I started on Mandrake and settled soon after on Debian. Android is the freedom I am used to.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 17:55 1

109. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Same here. I had an iPhone for a year, and sold it when the Nexus One first dropped. Part of my original switch was because iPhone had begun to bore me, but a large part was also wanting to have cheaper service on T-Mo. I definitely can't imagine going back to iPhone, it's just too limiting, and the customization options on Android fit my needs a lot better.

I'd like to give WP7 a shot, but I'm so deep into Google products at this point, that would be a tough switch to make as well.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 21:04

121. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i made the leap when i won an HD7. Its a beautiful and well done OS but it was just so hard living in the confines of a closed system. Maybe when mango comes out it will sparkle some more. It has all the beginnings of something great. MS just needs to find that magical spot between Apple's walled garden and Googles open international waters. If they can do that, then WP7 is going to rise high in the ranks.

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 22:42

124. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


That's what always fascinated me about WP7. It not only tries to hit that sweet spot between Apple and Google, but I think that ditching the app icon grid was a genius idea. It probably doesn't have the customization options I'd like, and it doesn't have the Google product tie-ins, but I'd definitely recommend it to friends and family.

posted on 15 Aug 2011, 02:25 2

132. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I'd recommend you have a look at bada.
I think that bada hits the sweet spot between IOS and Android.

posted on 15 Aug 2011, 12:06 1

137. remixfa (Posts: 14056; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Its like I knew you were going to say that peter.. Lol

posted on 16 Aug 2011, 02:52

138. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Haha : )

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 11:54

93. ShanikuaKnowws (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)


Wow. They want to release this? I haven't even got gingerbread for my HTC thunderbolt!

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 13:06

97. ShanikuaKnowws (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)


I havent even got the gingerbread update on my htc thunderbolt and google already wants to release ice cream sandwich. Wow!

posted on 14 Aug 2011, 17:12

103. yougotkilled1 (Posts: 167; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


I also agree with this article 100%. Google is rushing things to compete, thus making many products an afterthought. They want to push out ICS while most devices that are gingerbread compatible are not on gingerbread yet? The phrase "slow and steady wins the race" can come into play here. There are some people who would want ICS to be pushed out asap, but there are also some people who would like to wait and have the OS be as smooth as it can be. IMO, I hope ICS doesn't get pushed out this fast.

posted on 18 Aug 2011, 11:07

140. theredsnapper (Posts: 7; Member since: 18 Aug 2011)


I hope the Nexus has more presence like the iPhone has. I mean somewhere close to it.. then it could feel like google's iPhone (even though it is i'm just saying more advertising.. maybe they should pay lady gaga or jersey shore or something LOL [jk about jersey shore..]). or man pay jay-z or ludcaris SOMETHIN!

posted on 22 Aug 2011, 20:29

151. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I don't think more marketing is really the solution. I think Nexus phones are inherently too geeky for the majority of users. They really are developer phones or phones for early adopters.

posted on 22 Aug 2011, 20:31

152. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2686; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Also, I'd boycott Google if they hired anyone from Jersey Shore or Luda to sell Nexus phones. Actually, I'd probably boycott any company that hired someone from Jersey Shore.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 01:03

157. firebo14 (Posts: 77; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Yeah, well said.. Jersey Shore are a bunch of dumb bad people.. dont want that.. they should endorse someone else.. lol, maybe the president?

I wouldnt say geeky, more like too keen and smart. :]

Google Nexus Prime might be the first device to run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), and is expected to feature a 4.5-inch 1280x720 Super AMOLED HD display using PenTile technology, a 1.5 GHz dual-core processor, 1 GB of RAM.

Can the iphone 5 beat that?.... meh

posted on 18 Aug 2011, 15:40

141. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6675; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


I think Google should take their time with ICS they shouldn't rush out just because the Iphone 5 is coming around the corner. We really don't want any bugs when they rush out with software updates. Just release it when their ready. And besides Google shouldn't be afraid of the iphone 5

posted on 18 Aug 2011, 17:48

142. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


who said google is rushing ICS? maybe it was always planned for that month or maybe they are ahead of schedule and completing ICS faster than they had thought.

posted on 20 Aug 2011, 01:55

145. jokersixty9 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Jan 2010)


google needs to slow down, just a lil bit...it can control the industry just has apple previously did. but google is so much in a rush to be in the lead, it fails to understand that google has a very nice lead in many different ways.

posted on 23 Aug 2011, 16:03

154. tnhphone (Posts: 1; Member since: 23 Aug 2011)


who cares if ICS comes out!!
Most of the phones that come out even after a major android OS release still come out with the older OS, and then take moooonths to upgrade to the current Android OS.
There is only a few phones that ever come out with the current android OS or are available to upgrade within weeks.
SO if u wanna beat that iphone as far as OS... u gotta think again.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 00:57 1

156. firebo14 (Posts: 77; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Yes, ICE CREAM FTW!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 03:56

159. nick (unregistered)


i do feel android devices are rushed and saturated, as a "common consumer". sub-par build quality, dismal battery life, bugs bugs bugs

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 14:32

160. Player911 (unregistered)


Well everyone says, "Oh you have to compare real world tests like email and app launches to get a real compare of the two... android is too fragmented".

Well Fragmentation has nothing to do with the core apps. Just like iOS and iTunes and iPhone, and iBook are standard... Google also has its standard email, gmail, phone, and other apps that are rooted into the OS as well.

The really only difference was that older Android (pre-ICS) software didn't include GPU support for the OS apps, such as app launching and screen rotation animations like Apple does. But the Google Prime and Android 4.0 takes care of this feature and allows GPU acceleration available on the app level.

Apple will be just as fragmented over time where a game just plain won't run on older iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS hardware anymore. This is the same with Android except the phones have evolved much faster and at varying degrees for various price points (low-end to high-end). Just about every App will run on any Android phone but its the games that really separate the boys from the men. And the argument about Netflix not working on some devices is just Netflix not allowing phones that aren't on their "approved" list. If you take an unsupported phone and make it appear as a supported phone, it magically works.

My GF has a low-end HTC Aria with a tiny screen and slow processor but can do pretty much everything my high-end LG G2x can do (minus really graphical high-end games of course).

Of course being the Nexus Phones being a "Developer" phone that isn't publicly available to everyone, does have its tolls on the "success" if you go by number of devices sold. I had a Nexus One and travel for work. I've only seen 3 other people with one (one being my neighbor). It's more of an Exclusive Club more then an unpopular one.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 02:05

161. Cyd07 (Posts: 83; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)


Great article. Phonearena has really some of these, unlike some other sites with only news (we want news, but analyses too).

Thanks.

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