Nokia's new high-end model to be aluminum?
0. phoneArena 03 Jan 2013, 22:26 posted on
Nokia is apparently working on its next high-end Windows Phone 8 model to succeed the Nokia Lumia 920 and the early speculation centers on an aluminum body which will make the next phone thinner and lighter than the Lumia 920; although there is no official title, the phone is currently codenamed Catwalk...
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1. MeoCao (unregistered)
same specs as 920? smh
Nokia would be stupid if they do that, but may be they have no choice as WP8 does not support anything higher.
8. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Don't think it'll be same spec'd. But again, Dual core Snapdragon MSM8960 is more than enough to run WP8 on rockets. Doesn't need quad cores n all just yet.
So the difference will lie in Hardware, mostly. Everyone is expecting Pureview Phase 3.
18. MeoCao (unregistered)
People always want the best, the most advanced hardware. It will future proof their phone, and give them reason to brag about their toy.
By the time this new phone comes to market all top phones will have A15 quad core and Nokia "high end" phone stays with krait dual core.
I don't think this phone can be sold as "high end".
19. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
That's a huge misunderstanding among people. WP8 phone with current specs won't be titled 'dated' that soon. But android phones with the same specs are already 'dated'.
I'm stating again, WP phones don't need much fuel to run on. See for yourself how 1Ghz Dual cored Lumia 620 trumps Galaxy S3 running JB. Isn't there something called 'Optimization'?
See for yourself :http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_
40. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1176; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I agree with everyone that Windows Phones run quick and smooth with whatever high or low-end hardware they are given to run on, however I must say that I do think there is a need for the option of a Windows Phone having a quad-core processor or a better GPU for gaming purposes. There are a lot of high graphic games becoming available that, in a way, need the extra processing power to run at its potential. I have said this a couple of months ago and I will say it again: I want there to be an Xbox phone. I think the market would actually go for it. Imagine the developers that would jump over to Windows Phone to develop games for an Xbox phone, or the people out there who may have wanted a PS Vita but now could get a phone and gaming machine all in one. They could use the new Tegra 4 processors coming out along with a 5 inch 1080p display. At the very least it would mean people would take a second look at Windows Phone 8.
This may just be a dream of mine, but I think it should be done.
21. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
So you mean having a A15 quad core is better than having better performance..? LOL
At present a dual cored iPhone 5 outplays the quad cored S3 in most benchmarks and even the mid ranged Lumia 620 outplayed quad cored SIII in some benchmark tests...brag and future proof my A**..Optimization is the keyword bro...NOT specs...
23. MeoCao (unregistered)
performance and features must go hand in hand, older versions of OSes surely perform very well on top current phones but does this mean anything?
And this is not about you and me, it's about normal users and we can see despite great innovations 920 has to make deep discounts to sell.
27. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Older versions xD I can't help but laugh on this. Just for you, In Europe the unlocked phone sells at premium price, which hasn't seen a drop of penny since its launch. Still its popular.
Nokia is purposely taking some hits to change stubborn mindset/bias of most US residents to show them that there are better alternatives. What an overrated market!
47. MeoCao (unregistered)
Popular? do you have the data?
920 cannot make top 10 in UK last month.
54. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Stock shortages and EE exclusivity. Nokia is to blame I know.
55. MeoCao (unregistered)
For Nokia now surviving is the key, not proving something to US users.
If 920 do not sell well in US but out of stock somewhere else it's natural that Nokia will limit 920 shipment to US and increase stock where they can sell.
The fact that Nokia has to make big discounts in US and other available data all show to poor sales of 920.
in my place 920 (32GB) is $650 unlocked, $50 cheaper than 16GB GS3 and no shortage at all.
24. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Exactly. It's of no use, my friend. Android fanboys will always disagree and keep touting about cores, ram n blah blah.
And prepare to be thumbed down from them.
37. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Anyway Nokia Lumia's are no match for android's
42. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
In some terms. And same thing applies other way around.
63. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
All the windows phone have almost the same processors and user interface. It could compete with android only if MS allows manufacturers to customise the UI.
64. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Eg: htc 8x . Samsung ativ s. nokia lumias all have the same Qualcomm processors and WP has only limited amount of apps. I'm using a galaxy s3 and an omnia w.
Frankly I don't think MS can compete with this kind of software
44. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Optimized benchmarks. S4 and Swift are better than Exynos 4412 in single thread because they are almost A15 but in multi thread is Exynos 4412 better. Apple and Microsoft are just optimizing benchmarks, look for example on droid dna : it is better in benchmarks than nexus 4 even though they both are using same hardware but dna has to push 115% more pixels, droid dna is faster in benchmarks but in real world nexus 4 is better, you can not trust benchmarks because they can easily be manipulated. The important about a phone is how well optimized the OS is, not the benchmarks.
49. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)
damn dude you made me flip of laughter because of your statement.A15 quad or skyrocketing performance.are you telling us that A15 quad is going to lag as hell? try to say that to the nexus 10 who only has half of the power your bragging about. having only 2 A15 cores. and put that s**tty A6 core of the apple iPhone to an android smartphone and run a benchmark test or put an A15 quad chip on an iPad to see if A15 quad does not bring better performance. dont be confident on benchmarks. benchmarks is just numbers.
14. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
what if this phone will have same specs.....
but this will be much more liter then the original 920.....
17. MeoCao (unregistered)
That's will be ok if the phone is not high end
46. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Apple used aluminium and look at the sh1tty quality. If Nokia is not careful, they'll lose the indestructible image.
62. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'd rather they keep the polycarbonate. They tried aluminum on the N8 and E7, and they were both relatively porky.
10. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
The screen is square, so should be the phone. No reason to make it bigger just to give the impression of it "feeling" better and smaller
3. snowgator (Posts: 3586; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
That would be fun if they pulled it off.
5. tiara6918 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
As long as the aluminum will not affect the signal or whatsoever then it'll definitely be more eye catching to see the next lumia in a new premium material with a variety of colors!
6. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1236; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Umm. No. Make it quad core, higher megapixel camera, 4.7" inch amoled screen, less bezel, and a bit thinner/lighter. That'd be sweet.
7. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
nokia needs to come to android and they will see huge success!
15. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
Nokia with Android means no room for other manufacturers .....
This is good for other manufacturers .....Nokia is doing good with it's wp8 lumia lines
16. wendygarett (unregistered)
I understand your feelings... You want to hold a full aluminum android is it? Lol too bad it's rare :p
29. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
never said i would "jump" on the boat and grab one wendy........but its always good to have "options"...
32. wendygarett (unregistered)
Another confusing english you made lol... But gave you a thumb up for no reason :)
34. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
20. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Sammy, HTC, Sony n all will be out of business then.
31. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
9. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
What's new once you release a high end wp there will be little room for improvement. You can change the cosmetic side but the internals and hardware will be same. Nokia can do better without windows phone. They change everything they wanted not unlike windows phone. So for now anxiously waiting for jolla-sailfish, htc or sony phone. Don't get me wrong proud owner of nokia n9 and other symbian devices from nokia.
25. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Android? Are you kidding me? Have you used Windows Phone 8? My wife has the Lumia 822 while im stuck with Android and everyday I see why Android is inferior. Im tired of crashes and issues. 9 months to go til upgrade..
30. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
lool my htc droid incredible is smooth as i want it to be........what phone do you have? or better yet, what do you have "ON" your phone?
33. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
does it matter what's on his phone or which model he has? if android can't provide the same performance and functionality across all models then what's the point? not everyone can afford to buy a flagship every quarter of the year or twice a year...
36. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
come on im sure he can buy "one" good flag ship phone....and o also i only paid 237 for my phone the droid incredible 4g lte (not a flagship phone)............ so im sure it DOES matter whats "on" your phone.....not so much as of "what" type of phone you have....
39. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
10.3% still on Froyo and 50.6% still on GB...what do you make of that...?
41. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
and what does that have to do with fluidity??
43. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
It means most of them are still laggy..even the newer high end ones crash and lag at times when made to work at the extremes...
45. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
How can Android be inferior, it has much more functions, you can tweak it however you want. I have SGS1 with jelly bean(all hail xda :)) and I have no such things as issues and crashes. And by the way when I was in a store a week ago I had a chance to play with lumia 920 and 820 and they lagged, true story.
48. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)
maybe your phone is an outdated phone that's why it crashes. don't go around this site saying android sucks. 'coz you know what? WP sucks! microsofts support for the users is not that great unlike google who constantly tries to improve their software. and i guess your bragging about WP ui being so butter-like smooth. then use HTC droid DNA, LG Nexus 4, Samsung Galaxy Note II. And if that's not enough why cannot i see devs wasting their time developing in WP if it's so godlike.
65. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
I've got the Motorola Photon. Not the newest but not old. Before this I had a Samsung. Both crash a ton. I have a few apps that are highly rated. I sell many phones and we constantly have Androids that have many issues. @Pedro0x my wifes Lumia hasn't crashed in the month and a half we've had it. Just today though my awesome (Not) Android restarted itself while playing Pandora and was froze on the Motorola Screen.
On a side note sure Android has "more" apps but they are mostly (not all) junk. The app developers for Windows seem far superior. Of course that makes sense when Android app developers get money from ADS -_-' Smh..
But fellas its ok keep living in your bubble. I sell cell phones for a living and I love to play with them anytime I can. Im not saying Android is terrible but after using both heavily, Android is like a bicycle that keeps getting flat tires and Windows Phone is a luxury car with climate control seats ;)
13. Omar-BHR95 (Posts: 184; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)
Hopefully it would have a 12 MP camera or more , 2 Ghz Dual core or 1.5 Ghz Quad core , 5 inch 1080p or 4.8 inch 720p screen and a battery between 2500 mAh and 3000 mAh power battery
35. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
slow down man 3000mah battery it will be fat as old 90s phone and heavy as 200gm+
61. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
oh God look at its size 5 inch i think isnt it way too over sized for a normal phone and what the weight of note2 and how long it runs even with that battry
51. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
looks like you have 1500 $ to spend then......
56. aokde (Posts: 186; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)
seems to me like you're talking about the SONY XPERIA Z...
22. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Dear Sprint, please release a high end Windows 8 Lumia Model. Im tired of Android and don't particularly care for Apple.
Pick up the ball!!!
26. mcgrd (Posts: 7; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)
good. so nokia dont want to use cheap plastic for their flagship phone anymore.
52. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
Cheap plastic? you mean it?
plastic,ok Cheap ? .. suitable comment for samsung not for Nokia....
59. mcgrd (Posts: 7; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)
"suitable comment for samsung not for Nokia" hahaha =p