Nokia's new commercial says that it is time to #Switch
0. phoneArena 15 Jan 2013, 18:14 posted on
Nokia has released a new ad for the top-shelf Nokia Lumia 920 and its mid-range brother the Nokia Lumia 820; various data are beginning to show signs that Windows Phone 8 is catching on although the introduction of BlackBerry 10 on January 30th could stop this momentum in its tracks with a battle between Microsoft and RIM for whatever scraps are left over after the leaders take their share...
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1. sprockkets (Posts: 1464; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Kinda weird, but what makes the 920 so successful over the last 3 other Lumia phones?
10. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Improved camera hardware and software. Screen tech. I'm sure someone will chime in with anything else I left out.
27. MeoCao (unregistered)
Nokia, it's YOUR time to #switch
49. -SEUL8TR- (Posts: 113; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
More like its both Nokia and WP8 to switch.
So many Trolls haters bashers dislikes on every WP8 and Nokia articles,
Meocao and that guy TROLL was bashing and Trolling its last wp8 Nokia article with Stephen eflop!!!!!!!!!
We all believe this Nokia WP8 will fail!
57. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 281; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
What exactly is wrong with Nokia's devices? You obviously have yet to spend time with one. It would be nice if Nokia opened up their market to more US carriers and offered similar phones running on Android OS; I feel it would give them the best chance at survival.
68. MeoCao (unregistered)
the problem is they do not sell well, 4 M of Lumias in a quarter is not much. For its innovation 920 desrves much better.
If it runs JB the sales of 920 alone can be 14M in a single quarter.
81. Dastrix (unregistered)
Personally, I don't think that's the case. It still would not sell well with Android. I love the L920, but I think that if Nokia were to release a flagship Android phone, it might not even get as much attention and recognition as the L920. Put it this way: What comes to mind when you think of Android? Samsung. You got that right, I'm alluding to the One X. It was an awesome phone, but got totally overshadowed by the GS3. Look at HTC now; always trying to play keeps with Samsung. I hope you know that quality and quantity never get along well together, and that's what distinguishes WP from Android. The majority of the population is too ignorant to appreciate the fact that there are more offerings from Android than just a single brand. That situation would apply to Nokia's flagship Android as well, should they release one in the future. Most people simply do not walk in a store to ask for an Android other than a Samsung phone. I think Nokia is playing it safe for the moment with WP.
76. cameogt (Posts: 88; Member since: 18 Oct 2012)
What exactly is wrong with Nokia's devices?
-- people just dissappointed to Nokia coz they never pick Android, thats why.
65. haseebzahid (Posts: 1843; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
we all hear all day wp8 will fail nokia will fail and bla bla bla but truth is it didnt failed in 2 years of start and nor the stats are going down the trend is up so it aint failing
29. -box- (Posts: 3944; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Built-in wireless charging, best screen of the bunch, legendary Nokia quality, best camera in a carrier-subsidized phone, etc etc
38. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Legendary Nokia Quality Alright...
So whats with all of this crap about NO ISSUES with Windows OS and what not? It's probably with the Lumia though and not the OS like I've said 20million times.
MyKull replied on January 12, 2013
reply to MSK91 post on December 20, 2012
Sounds like everyone should get ready for this solution (take your bricked phone back to the store). We are trying to roll these out at our company. Over 10% of our Nokia 920 (100 deployed so far) are failing with this or similiar type of problem. Very pathetic reliability on this phone. Where is Samsung WP8 on AT&T when you need it! Nokia, you should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to be the premier Windows phone and failing so poorly with this kind of reliability.
41. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Problem with that is......nothings perfect. Motorola is probably the most reliable Android phone I have used...and its not perfect.
I do like Nokia for working good as a phone. Motorola, Nokia and RIM are probably tops in that category.
IF the Lumia has reliability issues....is it hardware or software? Is it WP related or Nokia firmware related? Get to the heart of those questions and it will tell a lil clearer picture.
46. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I know nothing is perfect. I am simply here to exploit all of the problems with the Lumia and Windows OS.
Not that I don't like them, but I'm getting tired of all of this hypocritical Non-Sense about the iOS and Android while these Windows freaks run their mouth thinking their OS is squeaky clean and how their Lumia is heaven and Windows is god.
As far as my Android phones.
All have run extremely well.
If I had to pick the most stable, I couldn't because I havent had problems with any except one force reset on the Moto 1x. I have only had issues with Apps and development occasionally because the software was new and updated. As far as I know, Windows 8 doesn't have all the apps yet either, so they're in the same ball park.
HTC Droid Incredible - Samsung Stratosphere - Motorola Droid Razr - Samsung Galaxy S3
48. trexnkrumpets (Posts: 44; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)
10% of one store? I can't say who they order from or how they replenish their inventory, but many retail locations order in bulk and like many other electronics sometimes a bad batch is sent out. One company I worked for ordered tons of HTC Inspire(s) and every store somehow got this one bad shipment. But I'd say overall of those phones only about 1%-5% came back defective. 1000 units would be a better representation.
50. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
It's not the first I hear of this. I've also seen this from Youtubers and their comments on the videos. It seems to be pretty widespread. I don't know the numbers though. This caused me to research a little more when I came across this comment from a seller.
67. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Another GREAT example kids...
Posts: 2.Re: Lumia 920 LTE immediately/constantly resets/reboots.Options
I ordered 4 Lumia 920's for business contract.
First 4 all had reboot problem as shown in the YouTube clip posted earlier. Well actually, 3 had the problem, the 4th just keeps saying "Invalid SIM".
Am currently speaking with EE to try to resolve. They sent another 4 replacement handsets yesterday. Same problems displayed on all, 3 rebooting, 1 complaining of Invalid SIM. I suspect the SIM may not be activate/registered and wouldn't be suprised if once fixed I still get the same issue.
Took one of the phones into an EE shop. Sales guy put his T-Mobile 3G SIM into my Lumia and the phone booted fine and found the network. Put my EE SIM into Salesman's Galaxy S3, phone detected SIM fine and were able to make outgoing calls from Galaxy using my EE SIM.
Bought a replacement SIM from the shop and activated that but same problem.
Took one of the replacement handsets that arrived back to the shop again and this time, when using the salesman's TM SIM, set the Lumia to 3G mode. Put EE SIM back in and phone booted fine and then reset back to 4G mode.
However, since tried this fix on the other handsets and it doesn't work. Both boot fine with a T-Mobile SIM in, let you set phone to 3G mode, but then with the EE SIM back in them go back to the endless reboot cycle.
8 handsets, 1 working, and even that was after a fix which you wouldn't expect to have to do for a "flagship" phone.
40. sprockkets (Posts: 1464; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Yeah but weren't the other ones good too?
43. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea some or all were. I think an older Nokia had camera features that many ppl raved over. This is a newer version tho. Like newer versions of most other phones, TV, tablets, etc are better than the older ones. Thats life in the tech world.
2. shy2papa (Posts: 219; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
Only the Galaxy Note 3 would make me switch from the best phone currently available the galaxy Note 2 :)
4. patchiman (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
The Note fails as a mobile phone. Why? It's not mobile. It's like the 80's brick phones all over again.
7. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Please get out of your parents basement more often and go see what these phone look and feel like in person. I own a phone from the 1990's and it was a brick.
12. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If thats the case....an iPad isnt mobile either. Or any tablet isnt mobile.
I dont like the phones over 4.7"...but the Note, Note 2 is a mobile phone.
16. patchiman (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
The note 2 has a 5.5" screen. Mobile phones are better when you can use one hand to hold them up to make a call.
34. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If you cant fit one hand around a Note or Note 2.....you must be a baby, toddler or lil kid. Do you wrap your entire hand around your phones...? lol.
95. haseebzahid (Posts: 1843; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
let me ask if i am holding a cup of coffee in one hand and have note2 in other want to write a text to someone on the move what the hell will i use to write thumb and if u say i should sit around to type then it is not a moblie device anymore
19. JeffPom (unregistered)
Have you SEEN an 80's brick phone?
Yeah, it's big. But it is, by no means, an "80's brick phone."
24. patchiman (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
If I have to replace my pants with oversized JNCOs to get a phone to fit in my pocket, I'll get a 3g iPad/nexus+mifi and use that instead and save money on a phone plan, considering the Note is clearly not designed for any conventional phone functions like making calls and fitting in a pants pocket.
36. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
What about blue tooth? Again...I dont like the size of that phone....but you are making it like its impossible to use as a phone. I would take a Note or Note 2 over a tablet for my uses. Best of both worlds.
44. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Ok....now you are just being ..something I cant think of right now...lol.
Blue tooth is extremely convenient. I use it it with a smaller phone than the Note 2. Many ppl use it with phones as small as the orig iPhone. Maybe phones smaller than that.
96. haseebzahid (Posts: 1843; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
and it also looks wierd to hold a 5.5" phone to the face when calling like a book on face more acuratly Facebook phone lol
28. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Only problem with that statement is that I own a Note 2 and can confirm that it's the best phone I've ever owned. You sir either have small girl fingers or tight daisy dukes from the 80's.
When I go from my Note 2 to my wife's iPhone 5 it makes me want to puke.
60. 1ceTr0n (Posts: 535; Member since: 20 May 2012)
Very definition of a troll here folks. And i'll never go back to anything less the a Note. Note 1 last year after giving VZW the finger for not carrying it and now a new Note 2
87. patchiman (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
Having a different opinion is now being a troll. Fact noted.
88. jroc74 (Posts: 5245; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"Bluetooth makes you look stupid."
Yea...thats your opinion....but its a very trollish opinion.
93. patchiman (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
"Trollish opinion" Is any opinion designed to get people mad. I am arguing a point, not trying to cause rage. If I was I would recommend the HP Veer. And anyway dialing a call with Bluetooth is impractical.
97. haseebzahid (Posts: 1843; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
being an android owner trolling on non-ardoid article is a troll get a life
94. haseebzahid (Posts: 1843; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
if i had 100 thumbsup i give them all to ur comment so true
15. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)
After 10 years of buying nokia high end devices from E90, N8 and E7 when I saw the note 1 it was time for me to switch to samsung and now I own note2 and looking forward to note3 and goodbye nokia. I paid $700 for the nokia E7 in late 2011 and found myself overpaid for this cheap nokia when I saw the galaxy note 1 for $700 so bought samsung and never looked back. The world of Android rocks and microsoft no thank you.
26. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Same here, paid around $700 for the N8 after reading reviews from nokia fanboys, saying that symbian rules, 1ghz processor was useless, android is just about gimmicks and blablabla.. And that POS crashed on day 1. Waited for belle to fix bugs and to boost performance, but nothing! Lame ecosystem as well.. Sold that POS and got myself a GSII. It was like I woke up from a nightmare. Now enjoying my GNOTE II. And the only device that'll make me switch from it, is the GNOTE III!
54. Omar-BHR95 (Posts: 184; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)
the lumia 920 is way fastet than the note 2
66. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Funniest comment so far.
Idk if thumbs up or down.
69. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Sorry, but phablets are not everybody. The NOTE II is a good device, but only if you like a small tablet disguised as a phone. Also, the Lumia 920 has some unique features, which make it better in some respects. For example. the screen on the NOTE II is horrible under sunlight, but Nokia's is easily readable. Also, lowlight camera shots are superb with the 920, and you get wireless charging as well.
As for WP8 versus Android, the later has more apps, but is also far less secure, and less intuitive as well. Rant all you want against Microsoft, but they own the corporate and business IT world, and you get a real version of Microsoft Office on your WP8 device, as opposed to 3rd party readers and widgets on Android. I could go on, but why bother? Each OS has unique and valuable virtues, as do the various smartphones...
83. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
So because the Note 2 isnt smaller, it makes the Lumia 920 the better choice for everyone...?
Intuitive? You must go into seperate menus to access your menus or go into your app to do pretty much anything.
I can simply swipe down my notofication bar and I have access to the most frequently used settings or I can display toggles on my home screen.
You must do a lot more to make any sort of changes.
You must really use a smartphone to type up your school or work essays on Microsoft word.
Androids works just fine. It reallt wouldnt make a difference if I typed it on Word or something else.
What is the MAGICAL difference of typing on word over something else. It will come out the same.
5. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Looks like Google's Street view with Added places and locations. Is this really Nokia Maps before street view or who's coping who?
6. oister85 (Posts: 421; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
I love that nokia ring tone
Is there any app to get that ringtone on my s3 lol
8. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Well if you really know android then you would know how to search for these ring tones . Search , download, assign as ringtone lol :P
18. JeffPom (unregistered)
11. papss (unregistered)
. This phone is a beast, looks sexy and has e best backing in the business (Nokia)... Seriously it's a great phone and if WP8 is to steal market share from anyone that matters then they need these types of phones
13. techguy22 (Posts: 227; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
no thank you. im good with android and S3. why would i switch from an open OS to a locked down one ? i must be the smartest person on earth *rolling my eyes*
though nokia phones look really good, kudos to them.
20. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Me too. There's a lot missing from the 920. Even if the camera is better, there's the additional functions that are missing on it. The simple fast forward that you must long press to forward a song because it doesnt have a slider, you have to go into the actual apps to make changes like music for example, less multi task by far, cool animations other than just live tiles, customization "fonts, colors, UIs, browser, vibration, add ons, etc...", limited app store, as far as I know that I saw on a user complaint was the lack of custom ringtones, and more that is offered through the GS3. There alot more functions and features offered on my own GS3 that was launched months ago.
If I were switching from an old Android device, I might see some improvement. As of now, it would be taking a step backward unless I wanted a better camera or some better riggidity.
23. papss (unregistered)
It's hard to go with you on this when speaking about the s3... Seriously it's embarrassing to look at with its terrible paint job..
No slider? I get that point because I hate that too....
You have to go into app to make changes like music? Not sure what you mean.
Far less multitasking? Come on now.. You trolling as usual? You can barely swipe on android without a stutter.. How much does the general public multitask.
Yes live tiles ARE cool animations.. The screen has more personality than you think.
Customization? No font sizing but we can do colors, the UI is very customizable.. I have my own pattern layout and size ( as you would on android).
Limited App Store? I guess.. Personally it has most that I care about minus pandora ( that one hurts) and its growing everyday. You can only use that excuse for so long.
Custom ring tone? False.. We got that, matter of fact I have that.
It's not as bad as you fanboys want others to believe.. The phone has personality and YES it feels fresh. I own a lot of different platforms on phones/tablets and it ( for me) is the nicest overall.. Are there short comings? Sure but those are petty
35. cripton805 (Posts: 1127; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Its getting old now about the supposed stutter. There are such things as NEWER technology and my own GS3 doesn't stutter at all. I really should make a video about it because every review I've seen only skims the surface without even rooting or jailbreaking. I own this phone and It could dance around the Lumia 920 as far as customization goes. So, I would just quit there on those excuses.
I'm not a fan boy. I'd buy a Windows phone if it got better. It's just not there "yet" and I'm sick of all of this trolling on Android which is ironically calling us PHANDROID and all of this BS when what are you a Windows Troll now?
While I watch a video on the side I'm writing this comment. I still don't even have the update which brings even more features to my GS3.
Also, what is it with this concept that the Lumia doesn't have issues myth? What about all of the people having problems with the booting and people getting their phones replaced and some having the same problem on a second phone. Some phones have their share of problems. The Lumia 920 is a good phone, but is far less capable than a GS3 at this moment in time. Your decicion will be based off of preference.
It is much easier to scroll down and access all of my settings than going into the menus to make changes. What about another stupid thing that Window users bash on Android about this supposed clutter. Your home screen is filled with square boxes in different sizes. My home screen has time, weather, and 5 small icons. I have my media when I swipe to the right, and my most used apps to the left. I also have seperate folders neatly organized for my qeb based apps, messaging, games, tools, etc... I customized my phone to do exactly what I want to do. Even as far as setting my animation transition times or making heartbeat type custom vibrations to go a long with my ringtones or texts. The GS3 can do more and that's just the way it is. So quit with all of this fanboy stuff because it's getting nowhere. All it is is an insult that proves that you have nothing to say.
59. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
Yeah I agree with you. Also all this lag and stuttering BS has gone a bit too far now. My sgs3 doesn't lag at all and I have the quad core version, I still do heavy gaming occasionally and still open around 7 or 8 tabs during browsing on my chrome and I haven't felt any stutter.
I was very happy when I bought it and im still now. Not being much of sammy fanboy here but I actually feel Samsung a much better (sgs3 was my 1st Samsung phone) choice imo after I sold my one x and xperia s.
30. -box- (Posts: 3944; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
The point about Windows Phone is that it is so well-done from.the start it doesn't need that excessive customization. Less locked down than iphone such that every phone is different, but not so needlessly open it is like MySpace screen vomit.