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Nokia's ex-camera guru Damian Dinning unimpressed with the HTC One UltraPixel camera

0. phoneArena 20 Feb 2013, 08:04 posted on

The conversation in Damian's Twitter feed also hovers around the fact that it is just a normal size sensor optimized for larger pixels yet with 4 MP output, and the results from a juggernaut like the 808 PureView would be much better, since in its automatic 5 MP mode the effective pixel size is 3.85 microns against the HTC One's 2 microns...

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posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:07 13

1. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


At least their making new ways with their camera ex guru

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:41 19

11. Sarajevo (Posts: 38; Member since: 30 Nov 2012)


Yeah, but that is not reason for HTC to provoke Nokia. They want to compare UltraPixel with PureView and announce it like competition tp PV, but that is not comparable at all.

But, they deserve credit for their aims to make some inovations, unless it is way to sell ordinary thing under the diff name.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 11:46

57. LDnb6 (Posts: 6; Member since: 05 Feb 2013)


Umm how do u know if its comparable or not no one has com paired it LOL... And if this super high MP camera is so great on the 808(which just to remind everyone was terrible and sold horrible and didn't even make it to the U.S at all) why didn't they put it on there real flagship the 920.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 21:13

59. Birds (Posts: 1166; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


For one the 808 is a niche device and isn't built for the general phone users...I can explain this all I want to but this is not my point in replying. The 808 pure view has a large camera. That makes for a very chunky phone. A flagship device shouldn't really be too thick and should be well rounded. That is why the 920 didn't have the Pureview Phase 1 camera. Nokia is working on putting the Pureview Phase 1 camera on a WP8 device, but the 920 was a market must have, or Nokia would have risked quite a bit to wait for so long.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:09 22

2. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


If the first sample images are any indication, then its certainly not a case of sour grapes. Forget the 808, the sample images don't come close to the N8 (almost a 3 year old device). But yes, HTC deserve credit for trying something different (although the underlying inspiration seems Nokia). As is the case with first gen tech, its not quite great. Hopefully the next Ultrapixel sensor will be better.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:51 12

14. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Won't say much...will let the upcoming image comparison do the talking for me.
(I still know what 808 did last summer)

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:53 5

20. jsdechavez (Posts: 734; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


haha nice one..

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 17:25

47. ZeroCide (Posts: 780; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


Come on PA still waiting. Where is the comparison? :P

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 14:46

45. eshwarnag (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Feb 2013)


not close to n8?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:12 4

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Sounds like things are setting up real nice for a Nokia L1010 (40+ Mp PureView camera edition) vs. HTC One. Nokia is supposed to be taking the wraps off the L1010 at MWC in what, 5 days? And then there is Sammy with the GS IV.... 2013 is off to an interesting start.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:18 28

4. Johnnokia (Posts: 1108; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Dear Mr.Damian,
Every imaging technology compared to Nokia's is crap. So, dont compare with Nokia.

HTC One camera looks great compared to other phones.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:03 4

27. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Well put.

Likely best Android [phone] camera for a few months or longer, but I don't think it will attain "legendary" status like the N8, 808 PureView, or Lumia 920.

It is surely disappointing to Androiders that it has no expandable storage or removable battery. While I will grant that the 4MP (can barely believe I'm typing anything under 8 in 2013 for a flagship, even more so anything past 2010) likely takes up less storage space, if one wanted to shoot a few hours' worth of movies and keep some music or apps on the phone, they'll be out of space quickly. At least the Lumia 920 syncs stuff automatically to SkyDrive so one can remove saved files from the phone when no longer needed.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 13:29 1

43. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Tell me one use for 8 or even 13 megapixel sensors? I have one on my phone and i don't see the point in it, not like you are going to do posters with pics from your phone. Also you should keep your mouth shut for that last miserable sentence of yours, in case you didn't know all HTC devices come with Dropbox installed and 25gb free space and they also sync automatically with it. My One X does it.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:38 2

34. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


as nokia's imaging is great and they set example of imaging for others by giving pureview so it is natural that everyone compare its imaging with nokia's.......

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:41 1

35. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


as nokia's imaging is great and they set example of imaging for others by giving pureview so it is natural that everyone compare its imaging with nokia's.......

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:19 21

5. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Don't think anyone will match the pureview 808 anytime soon other than by Nokia itself...not only can the pureview do what the HTC one does but like the Nokia guru said there pixel size is almost double of the HTC one but what pureview has is that lost less zoom that no other phone has.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:24 16

6. StreetNerd (Posts: 821; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


LUMIA EOS! 5 more days

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:26 9

7. lee480 (Posts: 197; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


lol the design is even more unimpressive.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/860398_343318719117827_140365419_o.jpg

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:38 9

10. yero789 (unregistered)


Oh I was thinking about this when I first saw the back of this phone :D it looks so familiar to Sony Xperia P,I was so confused,because it really looks like Sony Xperia P(from the back).

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:55 10

21. jsdechavez (Posts: 734; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Xperia at the back. Blackberry at the front. What else did I miss?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:22 5

17. FireDragon (Posts: 114; Member since: 13 Nov 2009)


No wonder everytime I was looking ONE from back I was thinking to myself "This is so beautiful I must have seen this before, but where." Now yes. Although Xperia did that better than the COPIED One (see what I did there? ;) )

Xperial put the flash in design, brilliant. I respected HTC but last 2 attempts are... well, not very original, not very good HTC, not very good.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 11:14 2

30. Diego! (Posts: 646; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


Which Sony-Ericsson Xperia is that one? I can't believe no one is mentioning that!!! You go boy! :)

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 07:52

53. yero789 (unregistered)


It's Sony Xperia P,which has the brightest screen in a smartphone,at least that's what Sony's website says :D

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:27 7

8. shadez10 (Posts: 427; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


words of wisdom from the ex guru...
HTC got hit real hard... Its really true that the ultrapixel gimmick of HTC doesnt impress most people...

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:32 3

9. asingha94 (Posts: 295; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


yes!!Whatever name it or call it by ultrapixel,this is a joke!!htc made a fun of pureview camera.Now htc deserves more than that.nokia ftw

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:49 4

12. moronman66 (Posts: 162; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


So what he's saying is that this isn't new, and it can't beat the best camera phone's camera... I'm shocked? HTC has a nice concept while, albeit, isn't completely new, it should at least be a decent, if not above average, camera, on a phone at least.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 08:50 1

13. pellegrini (Posts: 84; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)


The fact is, HTC is in the right direction.

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:09 6

15. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


but they challenged Nokia Pureview technology ..where is it? Ultrapixel ?

it doesn't make sense HTC..... Nokia will launch EOS in just 5 days... what you got?

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 09:19 3

16. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


I'd bet a lot of manufacturers head executives would be "unimpressed" Nokia's smartphone sales figures!

The Htc one camera is a big step forward,yes maybe the pure view 808 has a better camera but then almost nobody likes having a phone as close to resembling a brick these days. Htc have done well to keep their phone spec and design as cutting edge and current

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 10:24 4

23. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Yea no body likes a brick as a smartphone but everyone likes a smartphones which u hav to charge twice a day everyday. I hav an S3 and just bought L920 to replace my N8 and the lumia is more comfortable hold and use than all these slim devices so much so tht it has now become my daily driver and dont forget those bricks are far more durable than any other smartphone on the market

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