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Nokia's "app gap" ad misses one key point

0. phoneArena 11 Mar 2014, 00:04 posted on

Nokia made a compelling argument when it comes to popular applications for Windows Phone...

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posted on 11 Mar 2014, 15:21

54. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 16:48

56. TheGenius (Posts: 339; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


Companies are offering them so that consumers can use them and realise how boring it is and since they'll have android they can customise it to their own preferences. . Not like wp where they are stuck.!

Mind you .. I myself switch to launcher 8 every 2-3 months because it gives a fresh feel .. and then change it back to stock or nova after a week or two because I get Bored.!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 20:44

58. hurrycanger (Posts: 1615; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)


Huawei and...
... Nokia.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 00:37

59. timukh (Posts: 295; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Android 4.1 was released in July 2012. Since then there has been hardly any "visible" changes in the OS. Most of them were under the hood ones! Its been almost 2 years and we still see phones releasing with android 4.1 or 4.2! So its not that only MS is slow. Every company takes time to build a software. I am a developer myself and I know that very well!

posted on 19 Mar 2014, 21:51

62. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I have no problems with Windows mobile OS, but Android is hardly just a row of icons - that would be Apple...

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:46 2

4. KenAdams (Posts: 55; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)


I agree there aren't many banking apps on WP, but as far as comparing BlackBerry's market share with WP, BB has about 1% market share worldwide, while WP has 3.4%. That's more than double. And in some countries, WP outsells the iPhone. Not that BB10 is a bad platform, but people have lost interest in BB. Even in its strongest market now i.e. Indonesia, they're losing market share. And with the introduction of WP8.1 in April, there will be more people flocking towards WP. Hence, WP is now well established as the 3rd most popular eco system, regardless of what ever haters may think.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:54 5

8. Maxwell.R (Posts: 217; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


Indeed, I am a fan, and own several Windows Phone devices. This was not a comparison with BlackBerry OS marketshare, but bank share. In the top 10 banks, there are more that offer BB support than WP. Again, my article was directed at Nokia's "App Gap" video, not BlackBerry.

Also, it isn't that there aren't "many" banking apps, it is virtually that there aren't **any** bank apps. I am not talking about financial apps that help with trading, etc., but honest to goodness apps from the bank you keep your money. It is a night-and-day difference, it is real. It isn't a 1,000-flashlight-app comparison.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:54 1

9. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


True... Good point!!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 01:09 7

14. alterecho (Posts: 1098; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Windows Phone marketshare was able claw some marketshare ONLY because of Nokia:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/nokia-ends-2013-with-92-of-windows-phone-market-1211347

People trusted in Nokia. They were oblivious to the details Windows Phone.
Actually, it was Nokia's Lumia 520. It was extremely affordable and Android phones in that price bracket, were slow. People were impressed by the smoothness (including me) and assumed the features too must be good.

"Its appears smooth... It looks colorful... Its from a trusted brand... what could go wrong?" - A new smartphone buyer on trying out the 520.
Since the person is new to smartphones, they would be of the impression that thats what smartphones feel like, since they haven't tried the others. And since Androids in that price aren't as smooth as Windows Phone, they assume that Windows Phone is better than others. (i'm taking Android as an example since its the other OS available in that price bracket)

They may eventually turn into fanboys and spread the word that its good and disparage others.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 10:16 1

49. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


So how samsung and droid worked into market share?

You make no sense here and just another troll comment.

Of all the droids there is still what like a 20-30% usage of android 2.xx, that system is 4ys old now....

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:52

6. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


This is very true.. Banking apps are just a must!!!!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 01:31 2

19. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


yeah you asked me that And I said u that its not all about having great camera great speakers or dust resistant some apps are important. I believe most of the people buying apple for appstore

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:55 1

10. KenAdams (Posts: 55; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)


All the apps in an OS must adhere to the theme of the overall OS. Isn't Apple trying to convince developers to make their apps more iOS 7-esque, rather than the skeumorphist design with previous versions? Please stop complaining about all the small things wrong about WP like a baby. Every OS has its faults. And IMO, apps on WP look beautiful and sexy. I wish I has such design on my GS3. Hence, I'm moving to a WP8.1 handset soon after it releases.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 00:58 1

12. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Alterecho... He's just a troll who's mad because he can't afford a 1520...

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 07:41 4

32. SleepingOz (unregistered)


So according to you, if someone doesn't like something, it's because he or she can't afford it. Damn! You just went full retard meg, again!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 08:52 1

41. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


you can only speak of "afford" if you lived in a country with no subsided phones. when you can buy a 750$ phone with a contract price of 200$. the word "afford" no longer has a meaning to me. its a matter of choice. even in my home country where people pay 2000$ for high end phone people do not chose phones based on affordability. i drive a maserati but im still using a gs2.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 09:00 1

44. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


You're a Troll... And he does want a 1520.. It'll be his next device... So, you came here to stand up for the other trolls.. Typical.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 09:01

45. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


No need for all your numbers.. Don't take things so literally.. It's a joke, dude..

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 09:03

46. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


joke... ok

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 19:00 1

57. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Depends on the Maserati...just saying and if you bought it new and what year and model.

Anyone can claim to be an internet cash cow.

I did have choice, I chose both droid and wp, I use my wp far more than droid. I get tired of reboots, crashes, and google process errors. Yes it is a note 3, yes I have master reset, of the 4 note 3s that me and our pod has not one is problem free, in terms of what would tick me off.

I love the screen, the only thing stopping me from a 1520 or actually the icon, is it being on the wrong carrier.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 01:00 5

13. VLaRueC (Posts: 181; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)


It's irreverent. Bank apps? Seriously? A year ago it was Instagram, now it's bank apps. I took my Windows Phone and used my browser to access my banks mobile site. Done. Bank apps? We're talking about bank apps...

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 03:07 3

21. hamboza (Posts: 25; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


don't be surprised, some people will always find things to troll. when the banking apps gap gets fixed they'll find something else to complain about.

I Am not saying banking apps are not important, but that's subjective and does not kill a decision to buy a phone, unless you're too attached to that one specific app.

anyone considering switching to WP simply needs to visit it's app store and search for the apps important for him. I did just that yesterday since am thinking of switching for a Lumia 1520.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 04:15 2

23. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Well sayd. People are never happy. For those people who likes to follow crowd and avoid to be different. They will always drive the samekind of car (and color) than everyone else nearby. They will also feed that act by bashing everyone who wants to be different.

I just keep smiling to my friends (four of them, they all drive with a toyota and owning Shamesung G3) while taking my excellent yellow Lumia 920 out of my pocket. At that moment, none of them are looking at that grey plastic copycat device. ;)

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 10:19 4

50. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Same here, my bank doesnt offer an app. But both full desktop and mobile site work flawlessly. So why do i need an app? Just another thing to install and get an icon for. I can already pin the IE shortcut to my startpage, walla instant app...

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 05:29 2

25. timezone (Posts: 87; Member since: 16 Jun 2013)


Not actually a bank app but there is one big miss supporting app. We recently got Mint but Manila is dragging their feet. They claim there are plans but it is too far down the priority list. Windows phone fans need to email them and ask why it is missing. I email corporations all the time asking where is the app. I also explain that Windows phone users spend more money than users from other platforms. Everyone needs to bug these companies.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 06:26 4

29. muhsen (Posts: 281; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


this is a regional tailored article . the US is no longer the corner stone in the smartphone world, it's developing markets.
u can see why Nokia, Microsoft, Samsung , Google, Apple...etc all their eyes r on india, china, africa. eastern europe. they even launch apps and services related to these markets. an obvious example is Microsoft's 4Africa initiative which launched many african important tailored apps. the problem is that Ms and Nokia started the race when the US smartphone market has become already almost saturated. Banking apps may indeed solve the app problem and push WP....but only in the us, but in other markets...pretty much less likely. this may divert resources where the main aim is to increase WP sales exponentially and that aim can no longer achieved in the Us. the US smartphone world became less OS oriented and more OEM oriented. it's mainly Samsung VS Apple. u can see HTC, LG and motorola r not really benefiting from android or "the Banking Apps" and their situation is not much better than Nokia's. and oh sony with their awesome devices running android which has plenty of Banking apps......it can't even ting in the US smartphone radar and it's in a very very bad shape compared to Nokia and WP in the US. at this point, the "banking apps" point seems really irrelevant.

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 09:37 1

48. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Great point.. Well said...

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 10:20 1

51. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


shhhhh logic is not to be found on PA

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 15:25 1

55. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Exactly.. There's more people on this WP related article that hate WP, than that like it.... Stupid trolls!!!!!!

posted on 11 Mar 2014, 08:33 2

34. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


WP is already the overall best OS in my opinion, its changed design language in general everybody is jumping on the Flat UI trend looking largely like Metro aka ModernUI knockoffs.

8.1 will bring in many android fans who asked for more flexibility, the haters are running scared.

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