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Nokia's CEO content with Windows Phone for now, but "anything is possible"

0. phoneArena 07 Jan 2013, 11:24 posted on

Nokia's CEO argued that the Lumia 920 sales are pretty encouraging, and he sees the company getting double-digit market share at some point in time, then going forward to split hairs with the Android and iOS juggernauts...

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posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:31 11

1. MeoCao (unregistered)


Nokia, just bow to reality already. Nokia will not go anywhere w/o Android.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:47 21

4. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Nokia is a kind of company which doesn't like to be dependent on others, or become slaves someone other. For this they had some exclusive deal with MS, who provided them with funds in Nokia's difficult days.

Nokia managed to secure a deal in which they would participate in WP development. As a result you can see Nokia having a spectacular portfolio of apps which are alone can be a great feature to turn things around.

Now if they see MS blocking their path (for example they are blocking the 7.8 update) Nokia would have to answer MS back with some threat. This is exactly what's happening here. Elop is threatening MS here, indicating that they are not dependent on MS, but the other way around.

I honestly think that if WP has made progress, Nokia has a very, very major share in it. MS, you better be afraid of Nokia. An android powered 920 with Nokia's software touch can easily become a bestseller.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 12:27 14

9. chrischau1308 (Posts: 53; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


OMG, your post made me cried
Nokia, Get your A$$ back to where you were
And show others who is the real king!!!!
N.O.K.I.A for life!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 13:18 7

12. xtplnet (Posts: 39; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


I really don't understand why Nokia stuck only with WP-8. It’s different than others that’s good, but puts many limitations on hardware partners like Nokia and HTC (only best deal with dual core and not quad cores, only 720P resolution support not 1080P, Camera tech limitations). WP8 put all focused on the just Home Screen with Live tiles but no interactive apps like Android and IOS, no notifications!! Nokia Go with Android and you can become King Again!!

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:28 4

18. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


yea thats one point i hate about Microsoft, where u can find all the phones, having the same hardware specs, and the same user-interface, unlike Android where every OEM can make their own UI or use the latest hardware specs,

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:20 6

17. mick25 (banned) (Posts: 110; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


"Nokia is a kind of company which doesn't like to be dependent on others, or become slaves someone other."

They're already a slave to Microsoft.

"Nokia managed to secure a deal in which they would participate in WP development."

LOL Microsoft would have taken ANYONE.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:57 2

23. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


It's safe to assume that they aren't. We don't know the internals of the deal and the deal can't obviously be one sided. Nokia may have some aces up their sleeve.

And excuse me, Nokia is the sole mobile phone manufacturer (besides apple) who has most talent in Software field. They developed, used s40, s60, MeeGo and were also developing Meltemi. Don't even try to doubt it.

What the F other did do? Develop crappy half baked OSes like Bada? or the old school Java platforms? All are just used to take everything from google and put skins on it.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 20:25 1

34. Bernoulli (Posts: 1445; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Intel and Web os were behind MeeGo dude, and no it's a done deal with Elop, heck symbian phones still sold more than windows and the deal required an exclusivity to Microsoft for 5 years, it's online dude

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:35 2

20. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


That's why they depend and rely on MS. This Eflop ex MS employe is taking Nokia down since he took over, he sold Vertu he killed his own platform with along there one and only N series also he killed there 8800 $series, this guy and the board members should fire them right now and Finland should boycott them.....

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 15:01 3

24. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


He just did which was good for Nokia. Vertu wan't profitable already, and selling it raised some funds for Nokia. N series and others were good, awesome in their times, but the fast appearing smartphone era was all set to to take a toll on them.

Nokia could have gone Android way, but past is past. Nokia is doing adequately well and I'm not concerned about any past. I just see the 'positive curve' indicating that company is accelerating. It's just a matter of time.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 20:15 2

31. MeoCao (unregistered)


ROFL..., you turned things on their heads.

Proud independent Nokia, MS provide funds when Nokia is in need?

you sound like MS HELP Nokia, no it doesn't. In fact Nokia and MS struck the deal and MS has to pay Nokia no matter what condition Nokia is in.

Independent Nokia? Just look how MS humiliated Nokia time after time. Look at SS, Sony, LG... they can fork Android at any moment. That what INDEPENDENT companies look like.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 20:20 2

32. Bernoulli (Posts: 1445; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Lol nokia WAS a company that doesn't like to be dependent on others, otherwise they would've re build symbian and/or deployed MeeGo, otherwise if they were independent they would've never agreed to go with Microsoft, the only reason I didn't get a 920 was because of the os, instead I got a note II hopefully by next year we do see an android lumia, that'll be a total iphone killer

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 21:16 2

36. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


True that's why I hate WP8, but like the L920

posted on 08 Jan 2013, 00:56

38. Bernoulli (Posts: 1445; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


For once I Thank you lol :)

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:06 13

15. tusshharish (Posts: 341; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


nokia +android=100%
nokia+wp=100%

so nokia keep the both.....

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:42 1

21. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Nokia + Android = HISTORY

Android will make Nokia go NOWHERE, Android is a crowded market, and not everyone whould go for a Droid Nokia, maybe you, me, and few here on PA would love this happening.

money won't be pouring at Nokia if they adopted Android, and this is not happening now with wp8 either, but the wp ecosystem is growing now, its a safer option.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 15:03 4

25. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Actually, Nokia + Android will be a huge success (Provided Nokia would customize Android in their own way).

But I'm more than okay with Nokia with WP. In fact, Android isn't that beautiful to be loaded in a Nokia phone.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 20:42 1

35. MeoCao (unregistered)


This can be a good idea, Android does not mean Google.

But frankly w/o Google ecosystem Nokia can't compete right now. Forking Android can be a good idea when Nokia returns to profitability and strong again.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 15:16

26. Dastrix (Posts: 587; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


I'd agree with you, but it's about time you bow to reality. Dream on, I don't think Nokia will launch an Android phone any time soon, and they do have legitimate reasons for doing so. It's the sad truth for some, friend.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:32 7

2. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Nokia makes great hardware, and their new line of smartphones (Lumia 920 in particular) are on par with the very best that either Android or iOS has to offer. I'm sure the Lumia 920 or it's successor device would be popular for the Android platform, but WP8 is a big step in the right direction, and there isn't much lacking other than a more extensive library of apps (which will happen with time).

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:40 6

3. Kriksis (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)


Nokia secretly developing full HD, Snapdragon powered Symbian handset to show off at MWC...

P.S. still daydreaming... :D

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:50 6

6. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Haha I love the idea mate! Symbian belle looks really beautiful.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:45 3

22. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


its a dream i also wish it comes true lol

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 15:50 3

27. Kriksis (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)


somebody doesn't like me dreaming...

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:47 2

5. rms.max (Posts: 75; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


elop : but anything is possible. lol

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 11:54 4

7. MistB (Posts: 571; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


I'd rather see Nokia go with Jolla and be the dominant partner for that platform, but that's unlikely to happen. Otherwise I think the 920 is doing just fine with WP8, yeah i was sceptical at first and one of the biggest critics, but after playing around with a 920 unit, it really is a breath of fresh air, smooth and slick and is drop dead sexy. I just dream of the sexy 920 paired with Jolla.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 20:22 1

33. MeoCao (unregistered)


Seriously I love that idea too, but I think it's too late now. An ecosystem is not easy to build, just ask MS about that.

Nokia now needs something good, and cheap, and QUICK.

That can only be Android.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 12:04 1

8. digitalw (Posts: 51; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


Let see the logic here:

OS based on HTML5? Could be Mozilla.
Sailfish is out of a question. It's not HTML either. To develope new HTML5 based OS is expensive task now for Nokia. So.. Mozilla for me is the only "cheap" and good answare to Google and Apple.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 13:03 5

10. aco96 (Posts: 193; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


I want new Symbian device at MWC :)

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 13:17 2

11. Shino (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


"There is no doubt that a combination of Nokia's PureView cameras with Android will be a dream come true for many customers..." - Dear PA "experts". I really, really do not know what to say to you anymore. After reading this jibberish of yours, how not to assume that you were high when you had written this? Please, stop writing emails to me, but start hiring educated people(this means at least two foreign lanuages and one Master degree). Nokia, Elop, Dining never said, thought or implied directly or indirectly that they would adobt any other OS, rather than Symbian, Meego and WP. Stop studying through Google and get in line, please. :)

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 13:22 2

13. lyndon420 (Posts: 1737; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


What does PA write about in their emails to you?

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 13:47 1

14. jibraihimi (Posts: 695; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


Maybe Nokia can support Ubuntu's Mobile OS, it looks really very nice, and above all it's completely open sourced, and by the time Ubuntu is ready for prime time release, Nokia's deal with Microsoft will also be nearing it end............ Other option apart from Ubuntu, can be WebOs........

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:32 1

19. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


or Nokia can re-hire the Jolla team (Ex-Nokians, who made the Meego OS) which I think a better option, than going for Ubuntu or WebOS.

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 17:36 1

30. papss (unregistered)


Is webos even alive? Not sure that would be good either.. I had a palm pre and the biggest issue besides the junk phone was the lack of any apps.. It really was Barron

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 14:12 5

16. papss (unregistered)


Android wouldn't make Nokia king.. Nokia makes themselves kings by being the best. I would not want them on Android at all...jolla would make a great fit though

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 16:10 4

28. gazmatic (Posts: 619; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


I do not want Android anyway near Nokia. Jolla meego tizen Firefox palm blackberry anybody but google

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 17:33 3

29. papss (unregistered)


Agreed.. Why waste their amazing phones with something so MySpace like

posted on 07 Jan 2013, 23:05 2

37. Skylark99 (Posts: 1; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)


Nokia makes excellent hardware. My current Samsung phone is horrible when set to speakerphone. I also hate the built-in slide keyboard on my SS Galaxy Glide. It lacks accuracy and keys get stuck. Text prediction is non-existent when using the hardware keyboard. And it's hard to tell if CAPS lock is on or off as SS chooses to display ^ angle and line to indicate what case is on and it's confusing. Nokia was great by cuing me using "Abc" or "ABC."

Nokia = great battery life + good sound quality + great hardware

NOKIA, if you are reading: if you'd build me an Android phone with a built-in keyboard, I'm sold! Instead of doing what I'm doing right now -- just buying your stock -- I'd buy your phone! Again!

Your current Lumia line is not really business friendly and does not cater to business people who need to type accurately and fast. After you scrapped Symbian, Blackberry ends up getting all of the North American (and probably European) business market, in my opinion. Please bring me a high performance phone that melds precision with beautiful form. Looking forward to it!

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