Nokia wages legal war against HTC, RIM and ViewSonic on two continents
0. phoneArena 02 May 2012, 08:58 posted on
Nokia is undergoing tough times as it loses its Symbian followers and burns cash quickly, but it’s not only a defense game that Nokia has to play…
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1. byb786 (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
i don't get it
just because they are not in good times doesn't mean that they can blame others for it
4. JSern (Posts: 282; Member since: 22 May 2011)
I don't get it
Why are there 12 year olds in this website.
28. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
oh dude please don't start the grammar nazi stuff, it's the internet not english class
29. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
and the same can go for you its dude, not dood
see how silly your being?
13. HugeTroller (banned) (Posts: 80; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
i dont get it
why are you so childish?
19. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
What are you talking about? Others are stealing from them!! You expect them to not react?!!! Really?!!!
34. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
If you think sueing others is bad then why do we need patents office.
They are to protect intellectual property.
If you think Nokia is playing bad how about others who are stealing someone else efforts.
If someone steals yours idea or work let me know how good you feel.
Nokia never sues anyone for fun.
2. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Data shows that Nokia is still the biggest patent holder in the mobile industry, but it hasn't been the loudest one in court."
Apple doesn't have so much patents, but screams like a...
"Data shows that Nokia is still the biggest patent holder in the mobile industry..."
That's why Microsoft is so interested in Nokia.
3. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
You mean you think m$ wants to buy Nokia ?
6. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I don't know if it will happen, but it is reliable that it may happen, because Nokia hold a lot of patents and has famous brand name also at the moment Nokia is surviving not the best of times. So, Microsoft may try to buy Nokia.
17. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
There is already someone from m$ at the head of Nokia. It would be interesting if m$ buys Nokia as google bought Motorola. Maybe Nokia will not die or maybe they die faster
18. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Or maybe it will be revival of Nokia, just with other owners, new OS, new strategy.
8. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Or at last it may try to buy Nokias stocks.
12. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Not that they want to buy Nokia, I would say its because ms thinks Nokia is the only company with a portfolio that would keep even Apple at bay, and for now that works, but I'm almost positive that once Windows phone really picks up and starts eating some of apples profits, the law suits will start flying around
14. HugeTroller (banned) (Posts: 80; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
no, Microsoft & Apple have cross patent licensing back in the 1990s PC era..
Apple will never sue Microsoft.
16. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
yea, apple wouldnt have a good product without samsungs help, and that didnt stop them from trying to shut down sammy, apple has proven time and time again that profits are everything, and they will stop at nothing to eliminate any competition, so if ms booms and it starts to effect apples margins, apple will take it to court
Just look at the current court cases, apple hasnt attacked google directly, they just go after the top andriod vendors, so whos to say they wouldnt do the same with windows? by that i mean not go after ms itself, but attack who ever is the top vender, ms isnt stupid, they most likely saw that that is how apple reacted to andriods big boom, so they went with nokia knowing that they have a very large and deep protfolio to fight apple just in case
25. haseebzahid (Posts: 1842; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
u have point here but lets not forget that APPLE maybe king but MS is titan of IT industry more then 80% of world is using MS products one way or other and APPLe is like grain of sand in front of MS . so APPLE wont make stupid mistake. and yeah samsung is only a manufacturer but MS is more then that
20. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"In patent law, a cross-licensing agreement is an agreement according to which two or more parties grant a license to each other for the exploitation of the subject-matter claimed in one or more of the patents each owns."
And that's mean this Apple and Microsoft cross-licensing agreement talks not about all patents!
This Apple and Microsoft cross-licensing was about:
"Apple agreed to make Internet Explorer their default browser, to the detriment of Netscape. Microsoft agreed to continue developing Microsoft Office and other software for the Mac over the next five years. Microsoft also purchased $150 million of nonvoting Apple stock, helping Apple in its financial struggles at the time." (1997)
21. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Very true, and even if it were about patents, apple would get away with lawsuits because they wouldnt be directly suing ms
7. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
i am sure they are the biggest as far as patents go moto and nokia have been around since the beginning and i remember when they were THE ONLY ONES
9. andro. (Posts: 1974; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
While its a shame that a company like nokia have been reduced to this it is essentially their own fault for teaming up with a flundering os called windows mobile. Its a very though future for nokia
15. putes (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
It is a sad day for Nokia...
Lawsuits like these are an act of desperation.
22. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)
Well, first of all as i recall Nokia is selling really good with the Lumia line, well at least they tell us that they do. So that bull with the WP7 offensive... is just stupid, and how come you desided that Nokia are not selling well so they started sueing? Sorry but your logic is just... dumb.
23. RobotMan (Posts: 138; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
HTC have to pay if they want to sell phone as major pattents holder is Nokia. The pattents are valid not the same as Apple pattents. Problem is that HTC is not making a lot of money unlike Apple which they get over $600 million in settlement money. I only don't understand is why the phone maker is the one need to pay, why not the chip maker itself. They are the one who manufacture the circuit.
30. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
What else can nokia do, besides look to MS for help...
31. kastor (Posts: 43; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
micro soft can do lot of things,mayby they will buy NOKIA,and make something new,new OS new things nad of course good name,NOKIA
32. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Out of ALL the ways to take cues from Apple.....this is not what I had in mind....
Why....after ALL these years are they suing these companies?
HTC makes WP7 phones.....does this NOT make any sense? MS not gonna say anything about this? Seeing as they are in bed together...Nokia and MS.
I remember the rumor that Moto was gonna do the same thing....then next thing you know....Google buys Moto. MS buying Nokia didnt stop this?
This is shady on the deepest level...
And didnt Elop say all those negative things about Android phones??? So either Nokia is in their feelings about Android or is suing HTC over WP7 stuff...
Shady on the deepest levels....
33. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6804; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
oK THESE LAWSUITS are getting stupid right now. What is it that RIM/HTC have against NOKIA? Didn't M$ force HTC for 15$ for every activation to their pockets? And why RIM? RIM been making Smart phones way before NOKIA get into the OS touch screen business.