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Nokia: two years after the Windows Phone adoption

0. phoneArena 14 Feb 2013, 06:34 posted on

It feels like yesterday when we heard Nokia chief executive Stephen Elop shock the industry with his announcement that the then world’s largest feature…

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posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:39 27

1. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 700; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


sammy rocking.................................

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:36 13

44. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Samsung always rockzz....

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 12:13 1

71. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 700; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


hy s-fan u know............... haters every where

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 11:08

137. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Hmmmm

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 10:25 11

51. sayedejaz (Posts: 24; Member since: 05 Feb 2013)


Uff SAMSUNG 215 MILLION :O
Now i understud why apple sueingg them :S
It is the only company making dangerous for them ..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:34 3

59. sayedejaz (Posts: 24; Member since: 05 Feb 2013)


Prediction For 2013

300+ million - Samsung
97+ million - Apple

Thus Samsung became ' CHAMPION ' ( shortage of words to describe samsung :( )

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:18 1

100. appleeedooownnn (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME...
97+ Million.... apple???
C'mon...

If you see the graph, and follow news, you'll know that apple already hit their ceiling.

People area moving away from iphone 4/4s/5 into GS3 & Note2.

2013 is a VERY CRITICAL year for Apple.
I bet apple only sell around 50 million unit and becoming number 6.

1. samsung
2. huawei
3. sony
4. zte
5. lenovo
6. apple

posted on 20 Feb 2013, 13:30

136. BitterTruth (unregistered)


ZTE and Lenovo? Are you kidding?
What about HTC, Nokia and Motorola?

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:36 5

61. Johnnokia (Posts: 459; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Watch this name Victor. H ...

Almost 98% of the articles against Nokia and Windows Phone are written by him.

Phonearena ,, I'm an old user here and I'm asking you to fire Victor H. as soon as possible. Otherwise, you would loose your strong credibility.

Guys, before thumbing me down, just have a look on the article's archive and pick any anti- Nokia or Windows Phone article, then ...

WATCH WHO IS THE EDITOR >>>>>>> VICTOR. H

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:43 4

65. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 700; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


dont blame him.............. blame elop

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:46 3

66. Johnnokia (Posts: 459; Member since: 27 May 2012)


I'm blaming Flop all the time, but this guy has nothing here just writing anti- Nokia articles..

Watch the archive and you will know that I'm right.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 12:45 5

73. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 276; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Whether or not you're correct about how he covers the subjects of Nokia and Windows Phone is irrelevant. What matters is whether or not he has his facts straight. If he's inaccurate, call him out on it, and back it up with facts of your own. Otherwise if he's correct, then it's news.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:26 1

90. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Old news is often as misleading as incorrect news. Why not tell all the facts? Also, if WP8 is so terrible, then explain why Nokia sold twice as many Lumias as the previous quarter?

Like I said before, OLD NEWS.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 18:18 3

93. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


The thing about old news...it shows the rapid rise of the iPhone and Android in about 2 years for each platform.

It also shows the rapid decline of the old Win Mo and BB....and the death of Palm.

All within 2 years.

This article is also about a 2 year span. 3 years if you count WP.

See a pattern?

I find it extremely hard to believe that WP phones before Nokia were sooo bad...that Nokia is coming to save the day for WP. You wanna compare the first WP devices to the first Android ones?

The first WP devices were like the iPhone 4 or GS 2 and 3 compared to the first Android devices. Especially the OS. The iPhone 4 is a nice phone. The OS was nice too.

I had a RAZR, and I had to load up 1.6 on my Droid 1....and I barely touched it after. Anyone wanna talk about lag and Android..I invite you to use my phone with 1.6. Eeww...lol. Android has come such a long way since 2008...amazing lil OS it is....

Android grew so much in 2 years...WP...not so much. There was and still isnt a mass switch of Android users to WP.

I keep saying....it is what it is. I still say give WP 3 more years....before we yell FAIL. Might as well say the same thing for Nokia running WP.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:51 3

68. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


Let's not get personal here. The sole reason why WP is lacking because ex-Symbian users are not moving to the platform because of its limitations and certain guys won't move from the 800/900 to the 920/620/820 thanks to the sort of terrible experience they've had with WP7.x. Obviously, that's not to say the move to WP is stupid, but yes, WP needs to be better to help Nokia gain back its original crown. Long story short, Nokia needs to find a way to provide functionality to WP aka customize WP to make Symbian/MeeGo users gain entry to the platform. The hardware is generally very good, but ex Nokia owners won't move to WP if they fail to find all what was there in Symbian/MeeGo, Besides, this dumb US only strategy/focus needs to stop.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 14:31 4

76. nasznjoka (Posts: 264; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


i think he is so 'touched' by the fact that nokia's failure is due to the lack of strong platform, and you can not say that he is writing articles against nokia while he provides the facts,
NUMBER DON'T LIE MAN

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:22 2

89. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


The numbers do lie, because they are old numbers, and Nokia recently made a profit for Q4...

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:22 2

102. appleeedooownnn (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


lies, damn lies...
Q4 profit is from BB paying license fee + selling HQ + getting money for whoring with micfosoft
That's the reason nokia say that Q1 2013 it will be back in RED.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:21 1

101. appleeedooownnn (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


Victor H. WERE NET writing an anti nokia article
ELOP were writing an anti nokia history

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:42 17

2. rusticguy (Posts: 2813; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Eflop one of the most efficient zombie/virus ever released ... if you couldn't do it in 2 years you cannot do it ever. Compare with Android ... and accept that not many like WIN-DOZ.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:36 5

62. Johnnokia (Posts: 459; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Watch this name Victor. H ...

Almost 98% of the articles against Nokia and Windows Phone are written by him.

Phonearena ,, I'm an old user here and I'm asking you to fire Victor H. as soon as possible. Otherwise, you would loose your strong credibility.

Guys, before thumbing me down, just have a look on the article archive and pick any anti- Nokia or Windows Phone article, then ...

WATCH WHO IS THE EDITOR >>>>>>> VICTOR. H

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:53

104. papss (unregistered)


Agreed.. They really do have monkeys writing articles

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:49 19

3. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


wp brings nothing except "fancy" UI.. android forever..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:01 21

30. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


android bring nothing except lag, malware, ads, ugly UI and stolen apps from developers effort

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:13 1

31. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


uhm yeah.. my t-mobile g1 was like that..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:28 6

32. lovefist (unregistered)


whatever makes you sleep at night grandpa.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:09 3

82. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


my child im giving an advice android isn't worth your money

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:47 1

91. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


please stop making yourself sounds stupid kid.. my s3 can do everything even more than your windows phone can dream about... even all of android phone can have that "fancy" UI of your wp with launcher 8 if you thing android has ugly UI.. most of high end or latest android phone never lag ( specialy since 4.1 jelly bean )... malware just like a myth for me cause i never had once at all.. just try to grow up kid.. that 's my advice for you..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 21:47 1

109. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Your Android data has probably already been hacked, and you don't even know it ;o)

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 23:20

113. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


Oh you sounds smart my friend.. sadly i dont like to talk about probability.. i wish someone really hacked my phone so i can believe you.. :)

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 04:32 2

118. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


yes crapdroid has a lot of features but it also has a lot disadvantages go knock your head on the wall because i have seen my friends complaining about their so called high end smartphones with lags even with high end cpu it still lag android engineered by stupid noobs bought by stupid noob

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:21

119. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


Quit talking bulls**t.. maybe your friend just too noob to use android phone.. just like you..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:31 9

41. 90ninjas (Posts: 88; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


You throw the malware comment at the Android platform yet you defend Windows...?

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:40 6

45. pookiewood (Posts: 548; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


Show me one Malware report on Windows Phone.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:48 1

67. kanagadeepan (Posts: 631; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Terrorists attack Malls, Stadium, temples, apartments and NOT graveyard... Does that means graveyard is the best place to live????

NO, graveyard is NOT worth it... The same reason why WinXP has more virus than Linux in PC/desktop...

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:14 3

86. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


again we are talking about android and windowsphone and trust if linux start to be popular you will see a lot of malware

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:12 1

85. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


you mean show you maleware report about android windowsphone doesn't have any malware

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:30 2

58. eanpreou (Posts: 19; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


Last time I checked windows was for pcs, laptops etc not for phones.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:11 3

84. volcano (Posts: 246; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


seems like you don't even know windowsphone and why the hell are you comparing it with windows when then we are talking about windowsphone and android

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:34 6

42. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Wp suckzzzzz...

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:51 2

103. papss (unregistered)


So does your mom but I don't continue to spew that garbage... Point being.. Stop being a dumbass and shut your mouth so you don't get a creamie

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 17:36

131. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Really? Is it that serious??

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 11:11

138. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Go F***k your mom pap ass

posted on 30 Mar 2013, 02:07

140. reyyys (Posts: 7; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


samsung sucks

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:49 18

4. aco96 (Posts: 179; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


I just don't understand Nokia's startegy. In my opinion, Nokia should have used MeeGo for high-end phones, and Symbian for Ashas. Windos Phone has very nice UI and Nokia apps are great, but the core functionality is limited compared to any other os (except iOS which has more limitations like non expendable storage, no mass storage and no BT file transfer).

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 17:19 2

88. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Why don't you give us examples how WP8 is limited compared to Android for average uses? I'm curious to see what you can come up with...

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 09:20 2

124. yowanvista (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


WP is too rubbish, it can't even play MKV or FLAC when iOS/Android can do this perfectly.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 13:00 2

128. aco96 (Posts: 179; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


USB OTG, HDMI out, no file explorer, no live multitasking. These are key the areas where Symbian and Android outperform WP...

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:50 13

5. pookiewood (Posts: 548; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


Cool story bro.

*typing this from my Lumia 920*

You know Apple will always own the US market. It's just how it is. I say wait until after MWC when Nokia announces Verizon phones and any other toys.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:52 12

6. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


How can it be too little to late when nokia has finally started to make a profit last Q? Even tho its not a perfect situation for the Finnish giant i think they are finally starting to see fruits of their labour. And it has not been exactly two years now has it? Nokia might have signed a bunch of papers two years ago but the first lumia 800 was sold in november 2011, so basically the entire 2011 financial and sales score is a big symbian flop.

p.s. who is buying all these bada phones?? i have never even seen one and it supposedly outsells wp?

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 06:59 6

10. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


samsung wave series are pretty succesfull here in australia ( specialy the gt8500 & gt575.. ) i can see pretty much people using it instead any of windows phone.. and bada pretty popular in some south east asia countries..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 07:09 6

17. wendygarett (unregistered)


100% correct my friend, I'm one of the south east Asian and they can't even differentiate what is bada and android, they only know touchwiz and they want Samsung and Samsung only :)

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 07:17 6

19. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)


i agree with you.. bada supposed to be dead honestly speaking... but since it has the same looks of touchwiz like the old galaxy s.. many people think that it's an android device.. and plenty people got fooled.. sammy surely got lucky with this "dead" platform.. lol..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:32 3

33. wendygarett (unregistered)


I can bet that people won't tell different between android and the upcoming tizen thanks to touchwiz once again :)

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 07:22 7

21. tiara6918 (Posts: 1322; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


I know,it's terrible they only know and want only Samsung and apple. They don't give a damn to other manufacturers

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:29 7

40. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)


That's because they are the best at what they deliver. People are choosing wisely.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:36 7

43. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Because they know bada is better than wp..

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 10:31 7

52. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


bada is not better than wp bada should be compared with Asha cause it belongs thr

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 11:26 7

57. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


Shut up samsung fanboys .
Have you ever used a Bada device ?
They sucks .
Except for the looks there is nothing similar to the galaxy you and me are holding now .
Samsung are the best ? Do you want my omnia ?
Compare it to HTC / xperia or even Nokia at the period it suxks balls

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 07:59 3

29. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Well that makes sense why i havent seen any. Its something like the nokia s40 "smartphone" platform...

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