Nokia to break up with Samsung as supplier, too, as 'the firewall is as sturdy as a pile of kimchi'
0. phoneArena 15 Feb 2013, 06:20 posted on
Conflict of interest is cited as Nokia is straight-out concerned that information might leak from Samsung's conveyor belts to the higher-ups, indicating what handsets the company has in the pipeline...
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80. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3006; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Welcome back Troll...you're a good Troll...goodbye Troll.
146. amansingal14 (Posts: 285; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
STFU troll, and yeah Shahrukh fan shows youre most propably an Indian
Guess what I am an Indian too...
So bet ya, as in Taken, "I don't know who you're, but I'll find you and I'll beat you so hard that you delete your id..."
and yeah whats the need of (c), (r) and TM symbols?
157. hepresearch (unregistered)
Dude... get over yourself.
161. hepresearch (unregistered)
What I was trying to get across is this... we don't need to fake-threaten people here, even though we may be joking. It just doesn't seem appropriate to me, and I think some others would agree. I am glad we have been having this type of discussion in another part of the thread... regarding sensitivity and respectfulness... let's all raise-the-bar a bit on our dialogue. Thanks!
42. haseebzahid (Posts: 1822; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
so this article is saying Samsung is stealing Nokia off some stuff that may not be in market but in research like they said something about OLEDs
46. RobotMan (Posts: 125; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Apple try to create war between Nokia and Samsung.
48. KiranPAUSER (Posts: 73; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
Good measure. Nokia should protect it development secrecy from its rival.
53. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Does it really matter? Whoever is next supplier will steal as every supplier is getting into Smartphone business ... pissed that "420" to 920 sales aren 't causing any stir in market :D
54. boosook (Posts: 973; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
LOL! I don't like Samsung, but here Nokia is being pathetic.
55. papss (unregistered)
Agreed Nokia should cut ties... This is how SS got to where they are... So strange that any Korean company would copy..cough Hyundai cough... Apple had nothing to do with persuasion of this matter. I don't reward companies for cheap products so until SS learns how to make a premium felt device I will never buy there products again
62. gravityron (Posts: 20; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
Does anybody remember, wayyyyyy back, when Microsoft announced that they would release their own tablet? How upset were the O.E.M.s? Anybody remember why they were upset? But, ..... during all of these "accusations," nobody made racial slurs like "pile of kimchi."
63. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Koreans are very nationalistic and deeply loyal to their respective chaebols...I highly doubt there was ever a serious firewall at SAMSUNG.
65. TomDawson (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
There's a typo in the article...can you see it now: "PureView camera tech, the cause for concern is easy to explai."
68. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3006; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Yeah, the one who typed it probably got killed before typing 'n'.
But really, are you worried about the typo?? Don't you see any bigger picture?
69. gravityron (Posts: 20; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
A "pile" of kimchi? REALLY??
Kimchi is not in piles. Dog sh*t is, though. And what does kimchi have to do with a firewall anyhow?
So ... hmm ... It would seem to me that this "insider" wants to fan the flames of bigotry.
70. shuaibhere (Posts: 1352; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Any one who believes this story should be mad...not even a authentic information...
71. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Well well well.. I hope Apple lawyers use this and put Samsung in its place
75. hepresearch (unregistered)
There are two types of people in this world... the doers, and the fault finders. Yes, the doers often make mistakes, or do some things that are wrong... but the pure fault finders do nothing but sit on the sidelines and jeer at all the doers and deride them for all of their faulty doings. Then the fault finders demand a cut of the income of the doers, in exchange for temporarily ignoring the faults of the doers. Thus, the fault finders live off of the doers by scrutinously pointing out their faults and constantly demanding recompense for personal harm and damages from various and different doer-hosts.
People can be a combination of both types at the same time... we all are somewhere on that human scale, not perfectly one or the other, but some amount of both at any given time... a linear-superposition of states, if you will. The fault finders, though, are the ultimate hypocrites if they demand a living from the doers and fail to acknowledge their own faulty ways or even to support themselves with some amount of their own doing. The pure fault finders will ultimately crush the doers, and starve themselves, when people just give up and stop doing. Don't be a purist fault finder. People must do, or else there will someday be no more people.
Yes, Samsung is a doer, and yes, they make mistakes and do wrong things sometimes... but Apple is an epic fault finder, who does only what they need to do in order to cover their own bases, and finds fault in all the rest and then demands epic payment. They convince their followers that they have been wronged by the rest of the world, and that innovation and creativity have been their work and theirs alone. They convince the judges that they have 'earned' a right to the fruit of the labors of others, and then further glut themselves on the spoils of the court victories. At the end of all this, they do a little tweaking here or there, reshape the mold of the housing, add a new row of icons, and either slap a new number on the box... or add an 'S' on the end of the last product's name. The new product is hailed as the latest and greatest... the icon of mobile style... the realization of a new epiphany of Steve Jobs himself channelled through Tim Cook... the newest penultimate expression of beauty, simplicity, elegance, and luxury...
79. freebee269 (Posts: 519; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i gave you a thumbs up, while your last paragraphs representation of apple wasnt always right (like when the iphone first came out), the past couple of years it represents apple very well.
86. hepresearch (unregistered)
You are right. Apple's original iPhone was a huge undertaking and a big initial success, and took a lot of work on their part, a lot of it hidden and behind closed doors and with a lot of healthy cooperation from component manufacturers. However, you are also right that this has not been a continued trend for the last couple of years, and the lawsuit frenzy is serving no one well. Apple, like a person, is a combination of both states of being, and has the ability to change its behavior over time to reflect the changing interests of its most influencial human components.
I my own ways, I am no different. I have the ability to be more one than the other, and to change that mix. I try to do what is right, but I do not always succeed, and I often catch myself fault finding and grousing about things going on around me. In that regard, I am no different from almost anyone else. I don't want to be a hypocrite, but sometimes it is hard to prevent.
91. hepresearch (unregistered)
It doesn't help that component suppliers for Apple and others have indeed been in the business from time to time, whether their management knew of it or not, of lifting ideas from the OEM's that they could offer to the other OEM's, and also to get themselves launched in competing in the same industry with the Big Boys. Yes, it is wrong to steal or "counterfeit", and copying, though not technically illegal in most cases, is still frowned upon highly by many folks. Apple has responded with fault-finding overkill, though, and is seeking to crush the "doing" of so many other OEM's in an industry where the exclusive iPhone style and general appearance defines nearly all popular smartphones, and Apple is definitely unhappy with this fact... though I would say they can't be too unhappy that their brain-child iPhone set the new trend all by itself. It doesn't matter whether the LG Prada did it first or not... the point here is that the iPhone is the one almost everyone remembers, and is the one almost everybody tries to emulate. If Apple can't live at peace in a world where other companies have to make iPhone-look-alikes to compete [and, clearly, other companies really CAN'T live in a world where Apple is the lone OEM for popular smartphones, and the work needed to find a new market-shaking solution is too high because people aren't willing to pay for anything that different from what already works so well], then everyone loses in the end.
81. freebee269 (Posts: 519; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
if nokia doesnt like what they see at their supplier, it's their right to switch suppliers. even that is in a terms of service. samsung isnt the only supplier in the world. also, samsung does supply certain things in a cell phone that others dont so they wont be cutting ties completely. as far as financially, this cant be good for samsung. they made alot of money from being apple's and nokia's major supplier, they will lose that money. from a business standpoint, that's not good.
88. Muzhhur (Posts: 244; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
if nokia get some bussines whit sony and sharp, we will see, 'cause i think jap stuff its a lot better than corean
98. joey_sfb (Posts: 2862; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
LOL!!! A good site to read if you are an apple fan boy. I used to be one so i know their news is like gospel
118. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
I'm mostly curious about what components Nokia is so protectively nervous about. Screens are one thing, although there's no one single leader - Nokia I believe is leading with refresh rate, sensitivity, outdoor visibility, and brightness, HTC's M7/One will have the resolution crown for a bit, Samsung leads in production capacity, Sharp leads in clarity and quality, and Sony has some really great software tricks (BRAVIA engine, notably). Now if it's something else, like chip design, camera, or something else that would continue Nokia's tradition of excellence and evolving the industry with truly innovative products, that would be of much interest.
126. Taters (Posts: 2789; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
That is the thing, Nokia is on pretty thin ground here. There is pretty much nothing Nokia has that Samsung would be interested in stealing in the first place.
Samsung display is already an expert on display technologies. The Nexus 10 LCD screen and the AMOLED equivalent are fantastic screens. If they need some technology, they can borrow it from their computer monitor and television division, not Nokia.
For the SOC and GPU they have a close relationship with the direct source, ARM. They have also purchased from Qualcomm and Power VR before.
For flash memory and such they are pretty much the leaders in mobile.
For battery technology they are quite efficient as well considering how they can fit huge batteries in super slim handsets. However, they would copy Motorola here instead of Nokia. Especially considering how poor everyone says the battery in the L920 is.
For the camera technology, Sony is taking care of them with the best sensors and their own in house software team seems to be doing a bang up job with share shot and features like that.
In fact, the only thing I think Nokia can offer Samsung is LTE or 3G technology, which they can license for cheap. They have to pay Ericsson and Nokia for this stuff already.
Sorry buddy, I don't see a single area where Samsung can't do better than Nokia in house.
120. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Nokia knows something we don't. So stop bitching and bragging. Besides, only rumors.
127. Taters (Posts: 2789; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
HTC recently stopped using Samsung for parts. How has that been working out for them. LOL
130. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
No one wants Nokia, the RIP company, they stopet innovating 4 years ago, sine Flop took over, any way who cares about Nokia™®
136. papss (unregistered)
Me thinks you are using a Nokia phone now?
141. haseebzahid (Posts: 1822; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i dont think innovation is stop at Nokia but its extinct and Samsung apple
besides only 920 contains all the new stuff no other phone have u dumb tard if u know what innovation actually means
Samsung last new thing on phone that's wasn't there before AMOLED screens dont know anything else or u have the list
talk about nokia than
first time polocarbonate body which dont lose color if scratched or rubbed off in time like any other phone
hybrid screen tech support capacitive and resistive touch
advanced camera with high res and image stabilizers tech
first to implement wireless charging without 3rd party hardware companies [and sgs3 don't have wireless charging some other company sale this gadget for extra cash]
if u still are thinking i am making this all up then u belong to a .bin folder or u need to upgrade ur brain lol cuz i don't think i made-up any point above u can tell me wht Samsung did in contras expect the increasing of cores and ram this is no innovation and Samsung is not the first either in adding cores and extra ram i guess it was Sony or Motorola
so my conclusion Samsung had nothing from itself rather copies of all best phones features except the display
yeah i guess u are a liar or dumb to go in that sector to bash around and please don't make stupid comments that's doesn't hold ground it makes you look pathetic fool with no life
133. MC1123 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
yeah!! they shouldn't rely too much on samsung parts! i mean sharp and other japanese tech havew way better tech than korean, but its just that korean tech are way cheaper!!
i really wanna see that INZO display of sharp
134. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
@Troll... What you mean they stopet and sine Flop? Lolzz!!! Must be a Troll thing. Lol!!!
142. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
they did the right samsung. I wouldn't trust samsung either. They are well known for being, along with apple, the biggest thieves in the industry.
even htc is struggling to do sth similar to pureview tech and implement it in m7.
143. christumaini (Posts: 27; Member since: 25 Oct 2012)
As long as the source is pointed out to be""appleinsider" then nothing good can come out of it.
Its like kind of Google's news from Microsoft sources
150. nasznjoka (Posts: 336; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Nokia and Elop are looking for an excuse to their investors
151. papss (unregistered)
Grrrrrrf I'm Troll... Nokia sucks blah blah blah™®©™®©
152. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Troll! What is "sine Flop?" @nasznjoka STFU and go back to the pie hole with the rest of your Android buddies.