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Nokia to break up with Samsung as supplier, too, as 'the firewall is as sturdy as a pile of kimchi'

0. phoneArena 15 Feb 2013, 06:20 posted on

Conflict of interest is cited as Nokia is straight-out concerned that information might leak from Samsung's conveyor belts to the higher-ups, indicating what handsets the company has in the pipeline...

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posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:43 10

31. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)


Nokia N85 had AMOLED display and was announced in August 2008...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n85-2496.php

However Nokia does not say that AMOLED tech is theirs but says that Samsung cancelled the orders it made, and may be now using the new tech in their own device.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:16 9

43. sonyisdead (banned) (Posts: 30; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Nokia did not invent AMOLED, and AMOLED has been in use long before Nokia first used it.

geiper.in/Reports/AMOLED.pdf

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 09:09 8

60. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)


I never said nokia invent Amoled, all I am saying is that it used it in Phones before anyone else...

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:34

108. Diego! (Posts: 646; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


No it didn't! Samsung used AMOLED in a phone for the first time.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:37 1

83. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


nobody said they invented it...jeez...invention and technology are not the same bro...

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 20:22

135. ph00ny (Posts: 1268; Member since: 26 May 2011)


SLCD joint venture came to an end recently. Samsung was the majority owner of the SLCD and sony sold their shares to samsung last year when they were having a lot of funding issues

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:00 22

18. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I'm not in here for Nokia but you guys need to read right.
"a record of getting ORDERS for next-gen components, then CANCELLING the orders. And then they SHOW UP in a Samsung phone.
When you see a Samsung (certain specialized new design for) OLED phone as you surely will, you are looking at something that was stolen from Nokia."
In short, Nokia ordered...Samsung made...Samsung canceled...Samsung used the materials meant for Nokia. There...i got that by reading it.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:05 11

20. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Precisely thank you for summing that up in complete accuracy!! Samsung is using industrial reconnaissance to steal its opponents and rivals technology. Its something that needs to be addressed immediately!! I was on Samsung side the whole time until the Apple debacle and then it started to make complete sense. Also we must pay attention to what will be coming in the next 6 months technology wise.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:01 9

39. sonyisdead (banned) (Posts: 30; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


"Samsung is using industrial reconnaissance to steal its opponents and rivals technology. "

Do provide empirical evidence of this actually happening.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:53 1

113. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Evidence? Who needs that? All I need is baseless speculation, the good old USA, and some good lawyers! Thank you Apple!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:51 1

112. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


HAHA I find it quite amusing how the only defense these companies have against the upcoming Asian juggernauts is to ruin their reputation by spreading false accusations, use of litigation in their home turf, and using the media.

Sure ZTE and Huawei has insider connections, it is called business NETWORKING and humans have been using that to their advantage for inside scoops for their entire existence. They even had to ban certain components, insider trading comes to mind.

These accusations against Samsung are even worse and more disgusting. Oh no, they cancelled our orders because their owner/parent company wanted them to concentrate on their own family business. How dare they! Those thieves!

Ever stop to think that if they had the factories set up to build OLED screens that size, that they would have access to the technology a long time ago?

I can't imagine that Nokia would teach them how to build an OLED manufacturing plant and NOT have a contract that disallows Samsung from cancelling their orders. It would be a breach of contract and no way Samsung would in court from that.

This is obviously BS.

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 15:22

156. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Didn't someone strip FOXBAT Fighter air craft to steal something? C'mon this happens everywhere.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:45 3

32. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


you're right but i think this can be a harmful move for Nokia.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:18 5

44. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yeah next thing Samsung with pure-view tech with different name sure who wont see it coming

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:46 3

33. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


If you believe what he mentioned 100% for sure

But the contract paper between those kind of companies is not just piece of s**t.
You cant just order and cancel whenever you want
Dont you think? Its a huge deal made by the law

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:04 6

40. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


This is the first time i'm hearing Nokia say something like this (if there was any in the past, enlighten me, i would like to know.)
So one way to look at it now is Nokia playing the lawsuit game soon
Or they stay quiet, Or they change their supplier. Of course, like you said, if this news is entirely 100% true.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 11:54 1

99. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


By the way, have you come across any disclaimer that reads, "The 'manufacturer' has the right to cancel the orders at any given time depending on the availablity of the raw materials..." or whatever? That's quite possible too... Just giving you an example...

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:57

114. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


This is too specific though. In order for Samsung to be able to meet those yields, they would have to know about the technology a long, LONG time ago.

If Nokia commissioned Samsung to build an OLED plant, then Nokia deserves to ripped off if they signed a contract that would allow Samsung to jack their plant. haha

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 15:35 1

121. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


The history of OLED hits way back to the year 1950. Samsung started mass producing it in 2002-04... Almost a decade for a company to recieve billions.
Nokia released the N85 with AMOLED in 2008, but the 1st was BenQ-Siemens S88 in 2006.
That long enough?
By the way, who said Samsung built an OLED plant for Nokia?? Samsung built in on their own will, and when interests arose, other OEMs started ordering for themselves.
The 2nd part of your comment is delusional!!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 17:41

124. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Look up the word IF in the dictionary and follow the context. Reading comprehension should be a better friend to you.

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 04:54

148. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I know enough about the word 'if' to understand what you meant. I'm just making my point...in case you didn't notice. You make your point, i make mine...isn't that how it works??

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:39 2

84. eanpreou (Posts: 19; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


thank you. The stupidity here is nauseating.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:39 1

85. MartyK (Posts: 847; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Okay, my only question is this, what phone and what OS was going to use this Screen?.

See, the problem I am having is this, strange that ever since MS show up in Nokia company and their mobile market has fallen on hard times, they are screaming, " Samsung stole".

In today cell phone world everyone gets their part from the same people..

Samsung use Qualcomm chipset, so do several companies do that means Samsung stole from other companies?

Nokia needs to get their act together it's not 1 component that is keeping them from being number one.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:49 1

89. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


symbian ofcourse...duh..

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 07:15

149. nasznjoka (Posts: 402; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Ordered by Nokia but made by WHO?

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:13 5

23. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


@emadshiny, I think they were referring to NEW OLED tech that is yet to come out. Samsung owns AMOLEDs but they are not the only innovators in OLED.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:19 3

26. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Absolutely correct!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:58 3

56. erico (Posts: 4; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


where'd you see Nokia claiming AMOLED as their tech? Bsides Super AMOLED is Samsung's term for an AMOLED like Nokia's ClearBlack Displays used in their AMOLED screens or PureMotion on the 920's LCD screen
Companies have different ways to innovate with technology existing standard technology and Nokia are somehow afraid that you might see the Galaxy S IV with a ClearBlack type of display which is clearly Nokia's work or a PureMotion type of display!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 13:01

115. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Sony has used clear black filters for awhile now. They call it tru black or something. The only reason Sony isn't getting accused is because they are not HUGE like Samsung is.

Look at what Apple started. The mobile industry is becoming a land mine now.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:42 4

87. bon24x7 (Posts: 206; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


Nokia's first AMOLED display phone N85 released in Q3 2008
Samsung's first Samsung i8910 release Q1 2009

Its not about who invented AMOLED, its about technology (ex: CBD of Nokia), form factor and usage.

Sorry if I'm wrong..that's what I found...

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