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Nokia starting an ethics report to “understand what happened” with Lumia 920 camera marketing fiasco

0. phoneArena 10 Sep 2012, 09:45 posted on

You can’t have missed it - Nokia unveiled its brand new Windows Phone 8 Lumia smartphones last week amidst high hopes…

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posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:25 7

19. papss (unregistered)


I am pretty excited for this phone too.. it has to be priced right and i need some reviews before i jump from android

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:27 5

22. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


R U ready for some new restrictions?

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:31 7

27. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


r u ready to live without lag, crashing, regular restarting and short battery life?

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:55 3

36. redmd (Posts: 1279; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


short battery life is true to all smartphones except for my Razr Maxx lol we consider WP are smartphones yes? the current crop of Lumia phones don't have a good battery life. kindly check on some test done by reviews.
as I have been saying this again I prefer a little lag than an awful lot of limitations.
lastly I want to ask what you know about Android 4.1 jellybean.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:58 2

38. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


can people stop holding adroid jellybean as this almighty OS

why dont you just give wp8 a chance, every OS has to start somewhere what if when android was starting someone decided its not worth it and crushed it out.

give the new OS a chance to expand ,improve and grow.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:48

50. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Windows phone is kind of like an evolution from windows mobile which is 12 years old.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:06 2

41. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


What lag are you seeing on your RAZR? My RAZR with ICS has zero lag.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:12 2

42. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


How long is consider good battery life?
I use my lumia 900 daily from 6am to 5pm before I needs charge. That is I'm online one way or another constantly for 11hrs. I'm quite happy with it.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:32 2

45. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


i would have you know that my 710 has great battery life, it gets me thru the entire day, 3g always on and i am a heavy user and i have to charge it only at night. i know a lot about jelly bean, so much so that i saw a comparison of sgs3 with ics and jb and it was even slower than ics in some cases. and i cant stand that the sgs lags on the homescreen and it has 4 cores! four cores and its incapable of doing basic operatios properly. thats why i dont like android. i have a ics tablet and its constantly crashing and lagging. i cant stand it...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:49

51. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Jelly bean for the S3 isn't even a finished product, how is it meant to be smooth when it's not yet optimised?

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:10

57. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


yes it is, have a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NjJkI2YxQ&feature =g-all-u
the jb one crashed its homescreen, on a factory reset device? no thanx...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:25

61. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


It's not the final release. It's a leaked release of the official update. It's not yet released because it's un-optimised...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:29 7

25. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I jumped from Iphone 4 to Lumia 900 and love it. I'm using it for business and personal, and now can't wait to upgrade to WP8.

Personally, Android UI is to cluttered for me. It's really just personal preference, they all do the same things andyway.

Go to the store to test out the UI for yourself when it's out.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:27 4

21. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


Nokia camera photo shot in the dark technology is faking too by using flashlight for autofocus and compared with other phones without using flashlight. Bad Nokia and bad WP OS will loss big in market share.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:30 5

26. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


So its nokias fault for being smart and using a phone feature to improve night photos? r u fn kidding me? those photos the 920 took would beat the others even with full flash on coz its a well known fact phone flashes always overbrighten the image. the 920 does it right.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 13:42 1

89. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Keep trying to justify your purchase. It'll make you feel better about the company.

The feature the 920 used is called HDR. It's been out on other phones.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 17:57 1

96. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


What purchase?? I feel very good about nokia ince 1998 when i bought my first 5110, since then not one nokia failed me, not one. and the only reason i stopped buying nokias is becouse i never liked symbian, now they are on the right track.
If its been out on other phones why do they all suck at taking videos and night photos?? the 920 looks to change all that, but we cant be sure for certain untill we try it. Looks good for now anyway...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:28 4

23. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


My trust in nokia was never shaken, all this is is trolling by some samsung or iPhan boys trying to steal nokias thunder. fact is you never watch a commercial to see the specs of a phone, for that i watch countless independent reviews. all commercials are shot proffesionally and this was too. the fact remains that the 920 is going to have the BEST camera on a smartphone to date, no matter what you haters say.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:35

30. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Oh an you know what they say, bad publicity is better than no publicity :)

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:01 3

39. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


I love Nokia but, bad publicity is worse then none in this scenario because (and I'm not adding that I don't trust Nokia but, this is not the first time something like this has happen) at least people will still trust you with no publicity.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:38 1

46. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


i have to disagree, so many people have now red the articles talking about this and theyve learned that nokia has this pureview tehnology. theyll consider that when buying a phone. and being logical beings theyll base their purchase on independent reviews which will show how good the camera is, not based on some commercial. i think people are smarter than you thik, for example i doubt anyone bought a galaxy s thinkin its an iphone...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 11:50 1

52. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Let's not judge too fast, it might be rubbish. We have only seen the shots from a high end professional camera...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:09

56. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


take a look at this then, this was shot by a sgs3 and a lumia, what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HSbhyaH0vw&feature=g-all-u

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:20

58. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


That video you showed me makes no sense, but I followed a link from that onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhhBJ1URCg&feature=r%C2%ADelated%EF%BB%BF and it looks quite impressive. Too bad it's not on android :( I like android because I change the look all the time, for some reason I can't keep the same look for more than a few weeks. When Nokia make a pureview android phone, perhaps I will buy it, but until that day, I'm going to have to give it a miss.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:29 1

62. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


what makes no sense? the left shaky video was taken by a sgs3 at the same time as the right one with the 920, they were phisycallly connected and the right one turned out perfect and still. this shows that the ois technology is indeed a reality and not something made up. this same tech allows for those darkness photos...

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:39

63. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


How am I mean't to know which one's which. OIS wasn't invented by nokia, I know it's not made up. I'm not sure if it improves the low light photos. Also we can't be sure they are physically connected, this is nokia we are talking about... they probably shook the s3 nice and good for extra good measure.

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 12:48

71. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


well take a look at the presentation, at 1:05:00 youll see the rig used to film this. its not 100% proven untill you see this for yourself but I like it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8xkELxdGXo&feature=related

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:32 1

28. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 590; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


Didn't Nixon do the same thing?

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:45 5

32. Snoobab (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Sometimes I'll go to McD's and they hand me a real s**tty looking burger. Nothing like the poster in the window. Why don't they apologize too? It's called marketing. No where did Nokia say "actual footage from Lumia 920", did they?

posted on 10 Sep 2012, 10:54 1

35. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


yeah... I want the McChicken back to the way it was in 1998. It's shrunken and dry and thin now. Nothing like their ad.

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