Nokia sold only 600,000 phones in North America in Q1 2012
0. phoneArena 19 Apr 2012, 06:09 posted on
Nokia has posted some devastating financials in the first quarter of 2012 - losses widened to $1.8 billion in the first trimester, but what’s interesting is that the company also revealed…
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1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
What is the story about dog food? Heavily promoted, manufacturer outreach to distributors (to include a bounty paid for each can sold), but the dogs hate the dog food....
The only thing helping MS/Nokia is RIM's implosion.
21. hepresearch (unregistered)
As much as I hate to say it, and as much as I have lately been more hopeful for Nokia, I have to admit you appear to be correct. I can't put enough perfume on this to make the stench of impending corporate death go away anymore. Been putting the lipstick on it, only to figure out it really has been a pig all along, ever since Feb 2011.
2. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1062; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Of course they did horrible for Q1 here in the states. The only Windows phone they had was the 710 on T-Mobile. Neither are very popular. They just launched the Lumia here so Q2 is what will be important.
12. MickDM (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
agreed! i love the way stats are skewed (or mysteriously missing...to coin the phrase from vh above) from pa/vh articles in opposition to ms/wp/nokia/vzw...ijs
15. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
but still 600,000 is very very low no matter how someone tries to twist...have always been a fan of nokia so want them to do well even though i dont have there phones anymore.
26. MickDM (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
taz89, i see your point, however the fact that there were no NEW major wp8 hardware releases in na during Q1 is the missing information to which i was referring. t-mobile (the smallest carrier in na) was the only carrier release NEW vs. REFRESHED hardware. i believe Q2 will tell a different story (as long as the stats are not skewed).
3. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1422; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
if nokia stays with MS it won't be much of a hit as we think , windows 8 will be trumped by iOS 6 and Android 5.0 , only escape they will have will be to go all out on Meltimi/linux
5. Veigald (Posts: 253; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)
Always great to get business insights from tween/teen fanboys.
10. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Think of how thin the profit margin it would be if Elop choose Android over Windows Phone..
And people buying Android don't always go back to the same manufacturer. Look at how hard HTC fell, Nokia will be doomed if they did that. Elop is smart, the market nerds more competition.
23. 99n100 (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
Putting all egg into one WP basket is Elop a smart businessman? LG, HTC and Sammy have produced WP too. Why are they not competing with Nokia in WP phone and go all out to support Android? I’m sure they have done their home work.
28. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
They produce Windows phone as part of an agreement. They barely promote WP7 devices and the Nokia push will only help them sell more WP7 devices. The Android scene is crowded and Nokia made the best choice. HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, and anyone else that wants it all have an Android phone. Nokia has crowed about being the first true WP7 phone and they have a small point. They are the first ones to be proud of the platform.
4. FoneAddict (Posts: 213; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
The beginning of the end for Nokia as we know it.
6. bragzter (Posts: 51; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
And the one device that the world (including the U.S.) was the N9 and Mr Elop refused to offer it worldwide. Even though he said that the Windows Phone strategy is long term, the N9 could have been helping to raise their bottom line right now
8. linas_ltu (Posts: 32; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
they could compete with everyone if they have android
16. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
how was that a fanboy comment...the carriers themselves said the exact same thing or are the carriers also fanboys now lol...
33. SleepingOz (unregistered)
You are the biased fanboy!
39. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Yea look whose talking... Eyepomme!
Go and enjoy UR ios restrictions!
34. DroidZ (Posts: 8; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
You mean with their lame single core Qualcomm or their GPU?
Even their Camera sucks it lags in low light and i don't know what about all the hype for Nokia Camera it didn't win any awards as i recall Galaxy S2 won best phone camera
Nokia sucks so much i hope they die soon
35. hepresearch (unregistered)
I will never hope for the death of Nokia... but they inevitably will die, regardless. Such a shame.
13. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
And finally Android fanboys rejoice, loaded with their headshot comments, that Nokia is doom or Nokia should dump WP and use Android.
17. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
most my phones apart from the last 2 have all been nokia symbian phones...im not saying they should ditch wp but maybe make android aswel...as a previous symbian user i would jump into android rather than wp as android and symbian are similar to one another and are just as customisable so the transition is easy where as for symbian fans to move to wp the transition is much harder as they work or look nothing alike...not saying all symbian users are like that but my guess is that maybe majority of symbian users have allready jumped to android or ios and if a nokia android device they would use a nokia android device instead of any others...clearly if symbian users were happy with moving to wp then it would have shown in the market share ie while symbian shares go down wp shares go up but thats not the case which tells me that symbian users are not jumping into wp...hopefully wp8 changes things for the better cause if nokia go down or get brought out it would be a sad day in the mobile world...hopefully wp8 is less restrictive and more customisable cause at the moment ios is more customisable than wp7.
29. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
You have a good point however there was only one Nokia WP7 device really. Neither had a ffc and they both had small screens.(~3.5) The Lumia 900 was the real push and from there they should be judged.
32. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
hopefully the lumia 900 changes things but dont think it will as it is just a bigger lumia 800..think we may not see any real changes until a nokia wp8 with pureview camera is out which i will be interested depending on how good wp8 turns out to be...at the moment i dont hear many people mention nokia anymore let alone wp.i hear more about blackberry and they are suppose to be also going the way of the dodo so thats saying something...
14. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
Very sad to read that
Before Samsung Android all my phones were Nokia and they were very good phones
24. 99n100 (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
Nokia product good phones but they're too complacent with their past success and forget the magical word “Paradigm shift”.
36. hepresearch (unregistered)
They could have... but someone up top thought the company would revive way to quickly, and gave orders to make a slower-than-molases transition to Windows Phone, after just the right number of engineered delays...
When they release something like the N9, or the 808 PureView, what they are really doing is reminding loyal customers, fans, and share-holders, "Hey! Look at what you have always known we can do... look at how awesome it is, and WEEP! Cuz now we are gonna take it all away, and kill it off just as you see how cool it is... so you will remember this day... the day we showed you the best, and then stole it away from you like candy from a baby! HAHAHA!!!"
Then they go have a an after-party on the corporate-dime to celebrate how dumb they think we all are...
20. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
take it in context. the main phone in america was the 710 on Tmobile. Thats not bad. The 710 sells quite well. The only phones that have been selling more are the SGS1 and SGS2. It handily beat the sales of all HTC phones on Tmobile... android and otherwise. So again, its all about context. I doubt their sales goal on t-mobile was even a million... i would guess realistically 500k at best. TMobile isnt about to report a monster quarter.. in fact its probably not going to be good news. So everything needs to be taken in context. Its not an iphone or Galaxy, its not going to be a sales monster.
22. andro. (Posts: 1984; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
No surprise,very little people want windows phones they are a notorious hard sell
25. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Why don't these PA guys put it all int context? I mean, the only nokia phone that was being sold in the US was the lumia 710, i don't think feature phones sell well in the north american market, so basically, this is a success for a company that is just trying to promote a new OS. The way this article is written, it is as if nokia offered a whole lot of phones but only managed to sell 600000, that is not the case. In fact, feature phones are not intended for the North american market. You guys should break down the stats and tell us how many lumia 710 were sold, if they are 500000 or more, then that is a big success because i can bet that not a single mid-range android phone sold better than the lumia 710 on t-mobile!
31. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Yea and what about apple users
I can't write those nasty names u
But one ov them is eyepan.....
37. hepresearch (unregistered)
Eyepan? Isn't that what happened to Bob-o the Clown on "UHF"?
"Uh... ohhhh... Bob-o fall down go BOOM!"
Then George fed him Yappy's Dog Treats by accident...
38. hepresearch (unregistered)
Wow... just as bad as the iFanatics, but an Android goofball instead? Never thought I would ever meet one in the flesh... errr... in the print. Sad, sad, sad...