Nokia sold 4.4 million Lumia in Q4 2012, beats outlook and shares surge pre-market
0. phoneArena posted on 10 Jan 2013, 07:53
Nokia exceeds previous Q4 2012 outlook for Devices & Services and Nokia Siemens Networks…
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37. Mobile-X-Pert posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:12 0 1
The difference is that the Lumia 920 became available on november.
8. RaKithAPeiRiZ posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:30 6 5
atleast its much better than not selling anything
70. TROLL posted on 10 Jan 2013, 14:52 1 7
Right the only reason Nokia sold all these phones were due to highend price mid range specs and selling those L920 at midrange tariff with no upfront fee.
88. papss posted on 10 Jan 2013, 17:11 4 2
Dude if you didn't like WP you wouldn't be in here dogging it so much.. Go somewhere else and spew your garbage opinion
115. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 10 Jan 2013, 21:36 0 1
Since when articles stop welcoming critics? You are talking bullsh*t man. If you cant talk back just keep quiet, no1 blames you.
132. asseek posted on 12 Jan 2013, 09:21 0 0
"Since when articles stop welcoming critics?"
what Troll is doing is not being critical, he is trolling and bashing everything NOT Android, am strating to hate Android because of people like Troll
117. tashreef posted on 10 Jan 2013, 21:41 0 1
looks like u have two id's in PA..so you always get a Thumbs up......
122. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 11 Jan 2013, 01:38 0 1
that's me who thumb him up
9. windroid posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:31 12 1
Good for Nokia, wish them the best. They returned to profitability and that is very important to finance the next generation of phones.
What defines if a phone is smart or not? To my thinking, Asha phones are smart phones as they have everything a smart phone has and do everything a smart phone does.
10. alterecho posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:33 4 0
I'm assuming the other part of the 6.6 million were Symbian devices. Cool.
15. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:54 0 1
Yes 2nd best selling device (from Nokia) in China was i guess N9
16. freebee269 posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:00 4 1
Some Asha phones are considered smartphones. Even if they weren't they are still cell phones that cost money to make and market so should be included in their earnings report. Leave it to phonearena to be biased.
21. darac posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:15 5 7
Some job Nokia!!
Your entire Lumia line reached half of Galaxy Note 2' sales!
WP8 thank you
120. tashreef posted on 11 Jan 2013, 00:39 1 0
U mean to say ...Nokia Lumia 920 has great demand because it has WP 8 in it.......So what about HTC 8X and Samsung Ativ S....?
The Main thing is Lumia 920 carries Nokia Logo on it....And it's a Piece of Art.......
And if Nokia Adopt Android Then samsung,HTC and other manufacturers will be out of Business...Forget about other Cheap droid makers....
and of course WP8 is a great OS in itself....
25. 7thspaceman posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:50 2 2
this great news to hear I am a Nokia fan what they need now is a Lumia 900 with a 4.3 HD screen with dual core run by Windows Phone 8. because they relly only have one HD screen smart phones on the market and that is the Nokia lumia 920. they need another one a 4.3 incher or a 5 incher to fill their ranks. they also need a Nokia windows 8 tablet
out there. a Nokia Windows Rt tablet is not the best choice. Microsoft learned that the hard way. Gizmodo reports that the preliminary tests of a Microsoft Surface pro show that it is an Awesome Tablet that people will want to buy!
35. pookiewood posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:05 2 1
I think they should go after the Tablet market as well. I for one, probably the only one, want a Windows RT tablet. I have my laptop for windows 8. I just want RT for web browsing and game playing.
26. lubba posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:57 3 1
@Meocow why is WP a poor OS? WP is new, refreshing, innovative, simplistic, secure, fluid, even with the least cores, nonconforming, unlike no other out there that are merely skins or copycats of IOS. First OS to make use of social integration. Live tiles that are beauty to look at. WP is an OS that you make it your own so that it doesn't look like someone else's WP or any other phone. You can compare Android to IOS but you can't compare WP to any. WP is different and it works. Thank goodness for MS and Nokia not conforming to the collective.
38. eisenbricher posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:17 4 2
Is permanent hater of WP, don't bother about him. WP rocks and it'll only get better.
27. Padmasali posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:59 6 1
Nokia sold 4.4 million Lumia in Q4 2012... But real truth is Lumia 920 and 820 only available from end of November in US and UK, mid December from other Countries... so this figure actually of 35-45 days... so it is interesting to see Q1 2013 sales of Lumia, cause Lumia 620 is still to come and Nokia speeding up Lumia production... so they can sell more Windows Phone in Q1 2013 compare to 2 years of Windows phone sales...
51. eisenbricher posted on 10 Jan 2013, 11:14 4 1
Add china, India and many asian as well as European countries. + limited supply. Lumia deserves a LOT.
28. mad_iguana posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:59 0 1
Asha full-touch phones - not all Asha phones, just the full-touch ones - are classed as smart phones by Gartner & IDC, so that is why they are included in the smart phones number, which is where the 14million figure comes from.
But they are designed and created and accounted for with the other Asha phones, which is why they're in the Mobile Phones division.
No-one is being "unrealistic" here.
29. zuckerboy posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:00 2 3
4.4 m LOL very good for nokia next time they sold 5m :D
55. jackhammeR posted on 10 Jan 2013, 12:03 2 1
as for a company which was about to sink it's a great result. hassshhhh kid
40. Pedro0x posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:24 0 2
Yes Lumias sold 340% better than Q4 2011 but Nokia sold a lot less phones than Q4 2011. They sold 93 900 000 dumb phones Q4 2011 and 79 600 000 Q4 2012 and Nokia reduced price on dumb phones a lot so they earned 58.3% less on them, 2 500 000 000 EURO Q4 2012 and 5 997 000 000 EURO Q4 2012.
Now smartphones : Nokia sold 19 600 000 smartphones Q4 2011 and Q4 2012 only 6 600 000, which is 66,3 less. Nokia also earned 1 200 000 000 EURO Q4 2012 which is 56,3% less than last years Q4 : 2 747 000 000 EURO. So Nokia sells more Lumias but their earnings are even less than last years. And Nokia is also kind of cheating with Asha dumb phones.
44. windroid posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:40 2 1
Q4 2011: not profitable
Q4 2012: profitable
That's what matters to investors.
45. Samsomesh posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:45 1 1
Thats great and lumia 920 has just launched india... Will give nokia more customers... GOOD LUCK NOKIA.... Show them who is the king...
47. cornerofthemoon posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:51 3 1
I still prefer my WP8 Nokia over all my previous Androids. The green robot, although much improved is still too buggy and everytime they send an update to fix something, it almost always breaks something else. My 2 cents
48. InspectorGadget80 posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:57 1 4
Would be nice if nokia listen to us the consumers & make a android/nokia phone then your sales will drive up your stocks.
65. chaoticrazor posted on 10 Jan 2013, 14:40 4 3
they dont listen to whiny android fanboys sorry
just give credit where its due instead of crying about an android nokia
73. TROLL posted on 10 Jan 2013, 14:57 1 5
They never listen to anyone, unlike HTC and Samsung Sony which gives pride to there customers, o look whose talking OAP WP8 Apple police.
103. asseek posted on 10 Jan 2013, 20:24 2 1
lol why don't u ask HTC fans about how abandonned they feel from their company.
i don't know anything about Samsung and how they treat their customers, so i prefer to shut up, than to talk some crap like some here.
but please never say that Nokia doesn't listen or care for their customers, because u'll look silly that way (but u r anyway)
74. TROLL posted on 10 Jan 2013, 14:59 0 3
They would love to but MS has signed a deal with Nokia to not look elsewhere, Nokia are MS slaves.
76. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 15:04 0 4
2013 could see a takeovewr BID .... of Nokia.
79. TROLL posted on 10 Jan 2013, 15:18 0 4
Great good news...
80. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 15:23 0 4
"N" for Novell, "N" for Nokia and MS is common factor to both "N". It's all history repeating itself. Years back it was Novell now it is Nokia's turn ... sadly.
99. gwuhua1984 posted on 10 Jan 2013, 18:51 0 2
Nokia would of had this kind of sale long ago if it started with Android at the start of the Lumia line.
52. ckoch125 posted on 10 Jan 2013, 11:28 1 4
hahaha even samsung with their "niche" galaxy note sold over double the amount of lumias....
59. btbotimtim posted on 10 Jan 2013, 12:38 0 2
please provide a huge dividends to your investors. hahaha
83. w-t-f posted on 10 Jan 2013, 16:47 1 0
Lumia 920 and xperia Z for my taste are the best phones announced in last few months :) its gonna be a tough decision which one should I upgrade to when my contract expires :)
105. asseek posted on 10 Jan 2013, 20:31 1 0
i advice you to try both, and have info on the two phones, especially for the OS, because its more like Android VS. WP8, so U make your own opinion, never listen to anyone, because every fanboy, will hail his beloved OS or phone.
85. lubba posted on 10 Jan 2013, 17:02 4 0
I assume Troll is a former MS employee who got canned and has some huge grudge. His/ her ignorance is beyond compare.
90. papss posted on 10 Jan 2013, 17:17 3 0
No he's mad because he bought into a terrible laggy OS Tat has to be refined every six months because its total garbage... It took google 6 try's to almost stop the stutter when swiping...
94. TROLL posted on 10 Jan 2013, 17:33 1 5
Don't blame Google blame the CPU, cause Android is a heavy Ram hungry and need heavy power to run the OS. Look at Windows it takes up 600mb Ram just like Android. Full OS needs lots of CPU power that's why Android Lags.
98. papss posted on 10 Jan 2013, 18:40 3 0
Blame it whatever you want bro.. Still took way to many tries for google to get it right.. Talk about crapping on your fanbase. IOS never lagged, even in 2007.. Was/is IOS simple and primitive? Sure but at that time android wasn't all that feature rich.. Just face it Android is the myspace of operating systems
119. Nathan_ingx posted on 11 Jan 2013, 00:34 4 0
Wow, i'm really tired of reading your stupid, senseless, baseless and eat-your-own-crap comments and replies.
There's a good thing about Android, the hardware supporting it grows at a good rate and that is why we see an octa-cored processor releasing soon. The bad thing is, it'll never be enough for the latest Android. Resources keep adding up, the graphics keeps getting intensive, the UI gets more heavy (there's the light version too, but it will never be used in high end devices) and there's more. And those are the facts...supported by you, TROLL!!
Full OS, my butt! You're going to make me hate Android because of your stupid comments.
110. eisenbricher posted on 10 Jan 2013, 21:11 2 0
MS Employee? lol he's a kid who's dropped out of school and doesn't have anything else to do than bashing wp and keep 'rooting', 'customizing' his glorious android phones.
121. visualvidya posted on 11 Jan 2013, 00:52 0 0
Hello Nokia , Please rediscover Symbian and leave Microsoft.
Trust your own OS .
124. sbw44 posted on 11 Jan 2013, 02:28 0 0
for f**k shakes how on earth can the Asha's not be a smartphone? what defines a phone a smartphone? if its multitasking then all the f**king Iphone's is not smartphone also those android phones at the start when andriod was still at v2.1
Get a grip phonearena! we know you like samsung and apple and hate nokia! why do you have you everytime say something negative on something positive about Nokia? GEEZ!
126. -RVM- posted on 11 Jan 2013, 04:24 1 0
So Nokia sold more phones than Samsung in Q4, and became the largest phone manufacturer again.
129. lubba posted on 11 Jan 2013, 10:02 1 0
@sbw44 collective minds don't know anything else out of the box. If a threat is near their territory, there's bond to be war.