Nokia sold 4.4 million Lumia in Q4 2012, beats outlook and shares surge pre-market
0. phoneArena 10 Jan 2013, 07:53 posted on
Nokia exceeds previous Q4 2012 outlook for Devices & Services and Nokia Siemens Networks…
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20. MeoCao (unregistered)
Great news for Nokia, innovation is always rewarded.
46. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3138; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Good news indeed... But Nokia can't stop here...they need something to go against the 1080p monsters released in the CES, and they need to do it soon.
Suddenly, OIS is not that appealing as it used to be. 920's a great device, but the rate at which mobile phones grow with new exciting features is not giving anyone, anytime for rests and breaks. I hope Nokia does something surprising at the MWC.
56. rms.max (Posts: 90; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
agreed... so far i know more "pure " is coming...... :)
57. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
OK, but there numbers are nothing compared to samsung, apple
61. zippolite28 (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)
samsung have entered now and before they never had any like .. but to say the char now ....
63. zippolite28 (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)
whats soo special about samsoung other than android and amoled bro ....
71. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)
It Exonys SOC and mali gpu, which beated crap out of qualcom last year, this year also Exonnys quad was netter than krat dual. no doubt kraot quad isbetter , but lumia has only krait dual.. which is less Exonys Quad
114. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
why u need a quad-core processors when u can't utilize them.... Just for Show OFF......
Only Android JB needs Quad-core to run smoothly....not WP8 .... they are customized to suck less power ....
127. joey_sfb (Posts: 4349; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Visit above link. 1080p Gaming most phone is only running at 7 - 15 fps.
I don't know about you, i am ready and i want more processing power now!!!!
128. joey_sfb (Posts: 4349; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Hit me with OpenGL ES 3.0
60. zippolite28 (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)
good luck nokia .... i dont hate u ... and ppl who hates are jealos of this .... its not about WP or android .... its about they r doing good ... lets be happy for that
72. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
It's not hate more like bashing Trolling on Nokia.
106. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
so u do confess that all u do is bashing trolling on Nokia !!
107. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
mate dont waste too much time on that kid
he will respond trying to justify his bashing by saying everyone does it etc all that bs
86. papss (unregistered)
Hear you go again putting you very small opinion as a fact.... Mate
113. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
why u have 7 thumbs down...just for saying " Good Luck nokia"?
Bad Luck for haters.....
3. -box- (Posts: 3973; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Good job, Nokia!
I wonder how many more would have sold if the 920 weren't carrier exclusive in various countries, US and UK especially.
11. windroid (unregistered)
They would sell much more if they had them. They were launched in a limited number of countries, only now they are starting to sell in some European countries.
14. jibraihimi (Posts: 714; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Yes you are right, the sale of lumia's were hampered by limited availability, first of all they were not available in most countries, India saw the launch of lumia 920/820/620, today,china also saw the launch very late into December, and above this sale were also hampered by the low stocks in the markets where it was available........... But even though positive result shows that Nokia is taking baby steps to get back to their previous position............
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I don't know about situation in the other countries but, I'm from Europe and in my country Nokia Lumia 920 is available for conditionally long time now.
41. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
But in my country it doesn't even have a release date yet.
42. Mizmo (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
Belgium, Romania, Luxembourg, Netherlands,...
had to buy mine from germany
58. the_best (Posts: 139; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)
you are clearly not from europe, because no one from europe ever say they are from europe.. its like saying you come from earth.. anyways good for nokia
62. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Yes, I'm from Europe - Lithuania.
Where are you from?
130. the_best (Posts: 139; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)
hehe okay then, i guess its ok for you guys.. not wanting to be sovjet satellite state and all.. im from sweden, for us europe is obvious and not really relevant..
31. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
A huge lot of carriers in th uk and europe reduced the lumia 800 and 610 to about 90 - 150 bucks respectively on pre pay/no contract in order to clear backlogs of unsold stock. These sales no doubt influenced Nokias christmas sales fugures but substantial loses were incured because the handsets were origionally meant to be previous selling at about 300% dearer
67. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Very true, here in UK it's free on a mid price plan L920, while other highend Android sets are from £36.
4. Ruckus (Posts: 285; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Im happy to say I bought a Lumia for my wife in November :-D
78. Ruckus (Posts: 285; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Not at all. She switched from Android and she loves her Lumia.
5. Kan_wha (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
Thats it? 4.4Million units? At below market prices, you'd think it'd be a lot higher...
13. windroid (unregistered)
If they were below market price Nokia would not have returned to profitability.
32. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Well below market price,Lumia 800 reduced from 450 bucks to 150,some serious potential revenue written off at christmas for Nokia unfortuantely. Now these handsets were selling extremely slow in the first place so perhaps an sale is better than no sale no matter how low the selling price has to be reduced to.
6. pongkie (Posts: 513; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
bought an asha dual sim... wondering when will they make lumia dual sim
7. lee480 (Posts: 196; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
haha Sony sold exactly double of Nokia, 8.8 million. Sony Xperia ftw!
12. Hemlocke (unregistered)
The difference being, the WP8 Lumias are actually good phones. All Sony makes, these days, is garbage phones and good camera sensors. The Ion and the Xperia T are two of the worst Android devices I have ever used, and the Xperia S is beneath mention.
18. lee480 (Posts: 196; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
I used the Xperia Ion and I appreciate the aluminium casing instead of the cheap glossy plastic and the camera sensors were producing freaking awesome images. (Sony made Nexus 4, S3, iPhone 5 camera sensors.) And in my country, you cant see people using Lumia phones.
19. Hemlocke (unregistered)
I will give Sony the camera sensors, as I originally stated. I also liked the aluminum casing on the Ion. However, it was buggy, got warm under a load or when the battery got low, it had terrible battery life, and it was just generally a nuisance when it came to the software.
34. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Your on your own there,I never really rated Sony handsets when ericsson was involved but the Xperia T is the first handset post ericsson from Sony i can actually say is a good handset.We had very little if any returns and it was a good seller
23. MeoCao (unregistered)
920 is good phone despite poor OS. The camera is top notch, but Nokia phones are light years behind Sony.
Xperia Z will surpass 920 in camera except maybe OIS
43. MeoCao (unregistered)
WP8 is poor OS:
- big file
- few features
- limited customization
- low resolution
- little CPU support
- messy and distracting UI
49. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
- Not few for sure, but a different set of features.
- adequate. Heavy Cutomization if for uber geeks.
- can your eye spot pixels @ 300+ ppi? Everything above 300+ is about equal.
- Still runs like rocket on it
111. MeoCao (unregistered)
what you say is mostly true if you compare WP8 to iOS. You know what I say is comparing WP8 to JB.
It's not about you WP fanboys, it's about the normal users and they want the best things available, that's JB
54. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
low resolution???kid, go back under the rock you've crawled out from under.
109. MeoCao (unregistered)
lol it's you who is living in a cave man, and the Neanderthals would giggle to hear your opinion.
For an OS aspiring to beat the best, 720p is short. JB 4.1 came out back in June and supports 2560x1600 or even higher.
87. papss (unregistered)
Wow very surprised to see you bash WP8...all of your responses aren't facts.. They are your opinion... Messy and distracting UI? So the MySpace UI that you use is good eh? As usual you talk and sound like a blind fanboy
92. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
+1 from me very true!
- you can't download .mp3, must use scrap zune
- Apps are rip off, same apps expensive than iOs
- No Roots No custom Roms No jailbreak No Dev support
- Closed half-baked OS
- List continues.....!
39. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
It's not nearly as good phone as Nokia fans imagine:
The Nokia Lumia 920 has received mixed reviews. CNET rated it 4 stars out of 5, praising the screen, attractive design, great Nokia-exclusive apps, and an enjoyable OS, while the negatives were the unimpressive battery life and heavy weight. 
The user rating is 4.5 out of 5. ExpertReviews gave the Lumia 920 a rating of 5 out of 5. 
Mobiledia gave it 4 out of 5.  Laptop Mag rated it 4 stars out of 5, praising the colorful design, superb camera, eye-popping HD screen and wireless charging, as well as the useful Nokia apps. The cons were that it's relatively heavy and that Windows Phone 8 does not have as many apps as Android and iOS. 
Dan Nosowitz from Popular Science wrote: "I spent a long time with the Lumia 920, longer than I usually spend with review units of phones. This is a phone I was really excited about! But I just can't recommend it. It's way too bulky, the battery life is lackluster, and Windows Phone 8 has some big problems on top of that. It's not a bad phone; when you're swiping away through a gorgeous weather or news app, you completely forget its shortcomings, and it's nicely priced. But there are better phones out there." 
Adam Z. Lein from Pocketnow wrote: "Our final rating is going to be a 8.3 out of 10. The hardware, the screen, the camera, the sound quality, the video stabilization, and Nokia’s custom apps are all extremely impressive. The pricing is pretty great too. The only negatives for me are really the large size and lack of user-replaceable battery. Everything else on this phone is top notch." 
Sam Biddle from Gizmodo wrote: "It kills me to say this, because I wanted to own this instead of an iPhone 5, but no. No you shouldn’t. It’s too big and heavy. It’s not fun to own. It’s not enjoyable to use. If you want a Windows Phone, check out the very good HTC 8X. But this? No, not this." 
However, Luke Hopewell from Gizmodo Australia wrote in reply: "Yes it’s heavy, but it’s something you get used to. Sam said that the phone is too heavy to even contemplate living with, and that’s almost true. If you can get past the weight of the device, you’re in for a treat. The weight is almost beneficial when it comes to taking photos, to be honest. It makes it easier to stabilise." 
Dieter Bohn from The Verge wrote: "The software and hardware tradeoffs inherent in the Lumia 920 could be worth it if you’ve bought into the Microsoft ecosystem, but for most people I don’t think it’s a sure bet." 
Jessica Dolcourt of CNET in her camera review wrote: "Photo quality was strong and fairly consistent, though photos had a blue cast to them and the Lumia 920 had problems with contrast and absolute sharpness compared with the others." 
Frederick Charles Fripp from IT News Africa wrote "...it is fat and heavy and runs on a system that is essentially all show and no action. "
50. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Reading too many reviews doesn't mean that you can judge the phone. Go and take a look at user reviews. Everywhere it scores top notch.
125. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Darac, you sure write a lot, for somebody with such a weak knowledge of WP8 devices...
69. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
These arn't Nokia fans but WP users all in here!
112. MeoCao (unregistered)
You see the truth dude, they want to tie Nokia to WP sinking ship.
116. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
These all are Nokia fans ..... that's why u have thumbs down....
Go Troll somewhere else....