Nokia pulls a Microsoft - scores injunctions against the HTC One and One mini in the United Kingdom
0. phoneArena 03 Dec 2013, 08:04 posted on
In what has been a rather long and tiring court struggle, Nokia has finally managed to claim victory, as a London judge has just ruled an injunction against the HTC One mini smartphone. The smaller, lighter version of the company's flagship will no longer be sold in the United Kingdom starting December 6, at least according to the ruling...
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30. giani (Posts: 269; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
Right... it is bad indeed. However the ban has to do with Qualcomm and not necessarily HTC.
Nokia is however still a TROLL. They can't sell their Microsoft flavored crap and they go and ban products. I can see their side of things but it would be more fair to chase Qualcomm direct...rather than HTC. And please Nokia fans stop being in denial...u once caused Apple of the same stuff and now you're beloved is doing the same. Thank God for their 525....otherwise all that rise in percentage would be 0. They can ban as many phones as they want...They still won't sell more of their crap...
Will see how this ends any ways...I'm sure Qualcomm would have found a solution by now..
39. lyndon420 (Posts: 3357; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
How does that saying go again? "If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em?"
2. toiletcleaner (Posts: 224; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
HTC is looking like the blackberry of android
4. Finalflash (Posts: 2547; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Yea if BB was sued into the ground by patent trolls and not sunk only because they were too full of themselves.
3. joey_sfb (Posts: 4979; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
HTC get in bed with Microsoft to produce their Windows phone. Behold this is Microsoft reward. History has proved again and again its a bad deal to be Microsoft business partner.
9. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
They got the ban cos they partnered with Google and made Android devices..not the other way around...hater..
11. sprockkets (Posts: 1609; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
They got Nokia's wrath because they didn't license, pure and simple.
Even motorola licenses (more like cross licenses) with Nokia, and they won't bother to license anything from Microsoft - that should tell you something.
22. elitewolverine (Posts: 4522; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
You do know by simply using android they are getting license from MS. Don't forget MS has 7billion in funds as a result of patents used by Android.
If you think they are 'free' from MS your blind as a bat.
31. sprockkets (Posts: 1609; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
What are you talking about? MS sued Motorola using the ITC, and banned all their phones due to one lameass 1998 era patent on making meeting appointment with a GID.
The ban never happened because allegedly MS said Google convinced customs it doesn't apply to them.
If you think they get a license from MS from Nokia, you are dead wrong.
33. giani (Posts: 269; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
They get nokia wrath....ahaha...calm down. It's a broadcom \ qualcomm chip related patent. Take a chill pill..do nokia still make phones anymore ?!
36. sprockkets (Posts: 1609; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Uh, who are you talking about?
This is what happens when you don't read who I'm replying to bud.
35. joey_sfb (Posts: 4979; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Said what you will, a fact is a fact. HTC is a pure Android phone company and they move to manufacturer Windows phone which is good because it give consumer more choices.
There are only two active windows phone manufacturer Nokia and HTC and Nokia targeted HTC after HTC produce windows phone to compete with Nokia. Get your facts rights. Fanboy.
37. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
Just for your info...The article is about Nokia and HTC and It is Nokia that sued HTC not Microsoft. Read the article first instead of commenting and pasting Wikipedia links...This is what happens when you go straight to comments section after just reading the heading..
5. alvinashcraft (Posts: 11; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Don't you mean "Nokia pulls an Apple"? Injunctions against Samsung is their modus operandi.
6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10312; Member since: 14 May 2012)
*Looks who wrote the article; understands why*
10. toiletcleaner (Posts: 224; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
Samsung violate Apple? Apple create what Samsung is now. and the problem for apple now is..... They don't know how to stop it
12. sprockkets (Posts: 1609; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Sorry bud, but this is a copy:
That makes Samsung look original by FAR.
34. stoggy (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)
Apple is only around to copy because of opensource. Android is only around to copy because of opensource. Microsoft stopped screwing YOU because of opensource.
29. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
So Did Apple
8. shy2papa (Posts: 253; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
Now i see MS/Nokia is going after week Android OEM so they can pick there market share, so sad dirty games never pay off.
15. ady_lad (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
We knew as soon as the HTC One was launched that they were using a component that was patented by Nokia, HTC never denied that...so i guess this is not a witch hunt or an Apple move (trying to patent the rectangle). I think you got no right to bitch on Nokia or Microsoft on this case my friend.
16. shy2papa (Posts: 253; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
Wow you are even more dumb than i thought, there's something called licence agreement which a company can licence a patent or technology in exchange for a fee and make more money of that company which in the world of common sense is better than banning that product but common sense is very hard for you to come by friend.
23. elitewolverine (Posts: 4522; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Ummm you do realize, they didnt license it, they used the patent without license...
Hence the ban hence the damage seeking. Seriously that derp?
13. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
HTC already has to pay Apple per phone sold after the end of last year, besides the regular amount that all android manufacturers have to already pay Microsoft, and now Nokia (aka now Microsoft) looks like they'll get the rest. Poor HTC it really doesn't look like they are going to make it, their profit margin is just being taken up by the competition.
14. Augustine (Posts: 1034; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
The absurd of patents, which do nothing good to the consumer, only to uncompetitive companies!
17. Loubielou (Posts: 483; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Microsoft have never liked the dominance of Apple,an with them taking over Nokia they are going to be acting like Apple going to Court All the Time,Why?do we need that in the current time seems totally odd
18. gd761 (Posts: 123; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
A Perfect Solution for Microsoft, Nokia, and HTC.
Microsoft Needs Help. That's one of the reasons why Microsoft bought Nokia.
HTC Needs Help. Microsoft should buy HTC like they did Nokia. That way, HTC Can Survive and Flourish with Microsoft rather that getting a whipping with Android with Competition from Samsung and against Apple with the iPhone.
Also, the Time, Effort, Money, and Resources that are suffering from all the Court battles because of Patents.
If Microsoft Buys HTC, then all these problems go away. Microsoft will have More Designers from HTC, HTC will have the Full Embracement of Microsoft, Nokia will Not have to Worry about Patent Lawsuits with HTC anymore, and Microsoft has More Control over the Design, Specs, and Software on 2 High End Manufacturers Phones.
Also, if and when Microsoft wants to put to Market a Microsoft Brand Phone, Microsoft will have the Designers from Both Nokia and HTC to Design with the Microsoft Designers a Good High End, High Quality Phone.
This way, Microsoft will have 3 Phones under Microsoft that they can Profit from instead of just 1 "Nokia" right now.
So, Microsoft; Go and Buy HTC and just get it done!
20. dokhoasg (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)
Microsoft has nothing but a treasure of money, all the guys in Microsoft just know coding, not hardware. Microsoft killed Nokia slowly with its boring OS. We all know that Stephan Elop is a spy.
25. elitewolverine (Posts: 4522; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
An OS that simply works, an OS that may soon be able to run desktop apps if the arm/x86 api's can be merged or virtualized without much penalty. (this has been done in a beta app).
Killed Nokia? Nokia was in no shape to battle Apple or Droid, they would be BB but only faster.
They do not know hardware? Again, you have failed, but I am sure you know this
19. dokhoasg (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)
So poor Htc, I just realized that I love the way HTC designed its flagship phones. it is the curve at the four corners of the Htc one and one mini. They are extremely nice with the black outfit. As we can see, Htc is falling down day by day, my next phone will be an Htc one mini !!
24. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
The patent violations are with Qualcomm , a similar injunction was pulled on the HTC One but the fault was with the chip designer , instead of dealing with one of their main clients , Nokia has started to attack the company that uses the chip/product , but if the chip is the case , then Samsung's S4 mini is also "guilty" i guess this is Nokiasofts new approach to destroy the competition
26. elitewolverine (Posts: 4522; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Unless samsung payed the fee, which they usually do.
And if you think samsung has never waged a patent dispute or anything of the nature, people are surely blind.
27. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Samsung might have already paid them in full / or they are still paying them till date ( See the Nokia vs Samsung patent case)
28. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
FCK U NOKIA/M$
32. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
HTC had this coming.
Got to take care of business, stay on top of things and not let ignorance be part of the business model.
38. Genersis (Posts: 217; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Ugh, and I was saving up for a Mini too. Typical.