Nokia might jump back in the phone business with Android vengeance, job postings suggest
0. phoneArena 01 Aug 2014, 02:23 posted on
After the Microsoft acquisition, Nokia still retained the right to use its name on future products, the HERE maps suite ownership, and its strong patent portfolio. This seems to be enough for the Finns to try and resurrect their former glory, and, if a smorgasbord of new job postings at LinkedIn is any indication, Nokia intends to do just that. The company is looking to hire engineers, designers and camera specialists with a certain experience, for exciting new devices that are coming down the pipeline...
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2. shahulvm (Posts: 119; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)
Just release one camera centric android phone...and we would be sold :)
58. akki20892 (Posts: 3748; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Billions will sold with this....just think the sold numbers.
3. alterecho (Posts: 1094; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
This will be awesome(if true)!!
Also, "the PureView camera brand, and the ClearBlack display filter, are now exclusive to Microsoft?" ?!
Did they sell THOSE tech to those foo...??
7. nokia12 (Posts: 450; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)
unfortunately yes they had to sell it in order to get rid of the MS Eflop Crap !!
But don't worry this is NOKIA..we are talking about
hell they'll invent something like PURE AWESOMENESS VIEW Camera and SUPER Crystal Clear Black like tech
there is no shortage of innovation here..
11. LeBrownJames (Posts: 201; Member since: 17 Mar 2014)
Trojan Elop was the reason of Nokia's downfall before.
But now he is out, the Finns can start anew.
12. sip1995 (Posts: 1201; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Nope, Nokia still owns these patents. btw the Cyan update comes from the original Nokia, not Microsoft, so practical Nokia is still in the phone business but with a different way.....
19. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
please enlighten me on this, Pureview and Clearblack patents still owned by nokia ? and this are exclusive to Microsoft? if i'm correct from my understanding, only Real Nokia, if they ever return, can still use those innovations, and microsoft also? so basically the two only can use this technology unless they licensed it to others? am i right?
28. hemedans (Posts: 295; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)
All patents are still owned by real Nokia, Microsoft just has licence to use pureview and clear black names so Nokia can make same camera and call it other names like clearview or supercam without breaking contract.
And because Microsoft play dirt, I guess Nokia will play dirt too.
21. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 718; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
That's my impression as well; MS can use the tech, but not exclusively - Nokia can reinvent themselves using all the tech they've developed over the years. Too bad the ship has sailed on MeeGo; it would have been awesome to see what it could have turned into by now! If they go for Android, I hope they'll modify the UI heavily to match MeeGo...
82. razraptre (Posts: 106; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
I think they did. But didn't the Nokia employees transfer over to Microsoft as well (including their engineers and designers) to work on Microsoft Phone? Doesn't that mean the innovation transfers as well (or more so, since now Microsoft has full control over the hardware AND software, like Apple does)?
4. lucid.brat (Posts: 104; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
Yes,Fins will always have a chance to stand
6. ciprian.ruse (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 May 2014)
This would be a dream come true! A Nokia flagship running on close to stock android or even a nexus Nokia :-D
8. sgamao (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Feb 2013)
There's no new phone underway, not at least for the time being. Nokia through the Here and the Technologies division it's going to build some quality wearables and probably some hype for a future smartphone (from 2016) indeed. Interesting times ahead by the way.
22. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 718; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)
Would be cool with Nokia quality/design wearables...!
9. hafini_27 (Posts: 380; Member since: 31 Oct 2013)
I have always dreamt about a high-end Nokia android phone.
36. jojon (Posts: 163; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)
I think the perfect name for such a device would be ...PHOENIX .."rising from the ashes" Introducing the Nokia Phoenix. I like it!!
14. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
My thoughts about it, the REAL NOKIA gave the burning platform to MS so MS will have the burden to distinguish the fire, Meego/Harmattan/Symbian is on dead end in my opinion, it will deplete their funds if they push the development of their own platform, they don't have that money to fund it unlike MS, ms IMO why they've bought a division that is in near death, is to develop their own os, they don't have time to scramble and make a division to compete in smartphone, they will be long gone if they wait and build a team on their own and costly too.. so basically, that's why MS is pushing hard to be noticed, because they have limited time.. When brand nokia will no longer be used, WP already established that's why they have a lot to offer on 2015, that's the crucial year for MS, if MS wouldn't be successful on 2015, they are dead.
15. sip1995 (Posts: 1201; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
That's why they looking to add new OEMs, as soon as possible....
23. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
yeah, MS definitely have to go full throttle, and on the other hand, as I thought before, it was a good move by the Real Nokia, Nokia smartphone was never out of the picture because microsoft used it, the company are wise enough to sell it, because they have the strong brand recognition, by the time they return, uninformed people will feel as if nothing happens, nokia was still there, and never out of the picture. as I've said, instead MS played fool out of nokia, Nokia are the one who really played them... LOL
49. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
I think no matter how many % WP market share were, WP will be dead overnight just like kin, if the real nokia launch android phone with nokia brand.
16. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3673; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Hell yeah. The nokia fanboy in me has awakened again after microsoft swallowing nokia. WP fans will burn if this comes true. :)
70. techspace (Posts: 821; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I don't think its that easy.....they don't have enough money, they have lost many important patents and many good employees, some of them formed Jolla and the others went to ms...and today, nokia isn't as popular as it used to be...an android phone from nokia will not be as popular as it would have been a few years ago....now the only way to get back into handset business is to merge with Jolla and make android and sailfish smart phones at the same time
17. LeBrownJames (Posts: 201; Member since: 17 Mar 2014)
Nokia + Carl Zeiss lens + Android = Best phone in the world.
20. haseebzahid (Posts: 1845; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
Guys fired by MS now rehired by Nokia again
24. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
and those Big Players (those who develop SailFish OS) who resigned too after the acquisition, that's why my hopes are high they'll come back in the game, and I hope this rumor is 100% true!
83. razraptre (Posts: 106; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Those guys were mostly blue collar workers. I believe MS retained the internal engineers and designers etc
Interested to see how this plays out.
25. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
If the REAL nokia do android, the FAKE nokia (microsoft) WP will be dead in no time
42. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Samsung will be hitted. But microsoft WILL 100% SURE die.
62. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
don't hope to die such a company, no competition = monopoly..
26. Federated (Posts: 255; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
Just release a Full Android powered Nokia Smartphone. Name it "Nokia Aikon." Make it the next Nexus device. Advertise and market it aggressively and it will put Samsung into bankruptcy.
27. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Balmer/Gates/Nadela : "darn, now we have to send Elop to go there one more time. We should buy THE WHOLE nokia at that time"
30. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3377; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Yes, but we need to wait till 2016.
34. sip1995 (Posts: 1201; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
I don't think they'll make a smartphone...cuz of the agreement between Nokia and Microsoft....
50. EasycapExpertti (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Of course they can start to make smartphones even today, but because of the agreement between Nokia and MS they can start to sell them with Nokia brand until 1.1.2016 which is not very long time to wait - only 17 months. Nokia have started to search new workers with Android skills, but it can be so that they don't plan to use only Android OS - they can use also Jolla's Sailfish which can run Android programs.
61. pdexter (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jul 2013)
They can start making smartphones today. They just can't use Nokia branding on "mobile devices" before 2016.
31. Federated (Posts: 255; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
The greatest cp manufacturer in the world has ever seen will rise. This is a dream come true. The waiting will be over. An Android powered Nokia smartphone will finally be a reality. *tears of joy* I'm typing this on my Lumia 2520.
32. sip1995 (Posts: 1201; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Maybe is Tim to start saying "Goodbye Samesung"
38. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3673; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
"I like wp, I won't change it" said the orange fanboy.
Read Post #4 and #53
40. sip1995 (Posts: 1201; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
I talked about Samesung here and I didn't mention Windows phone in this topic....the article is about Nokia, not Windows Phone.
39. -box- (Posts: 3953; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Unless there are more ground-up restructuring on Android - no more virtual machine at all, just the OS pure and simple - I don't see the appeal, other than apps. I'd rather see Jolla rejoin Nokia and MeeGo get a second chance. Heck, bring Vertu back into the fold as well, just to have a consistent revenue stream to fund the R&D needed to bring a new phone to market in a few years. Remember Microsoft acquired the entire division, so Nokia would need everything starting from scratch, except their patents: Buildings, computers, furniture, employees, labs, physical testing apparati, plus a new supply chain and/or negotiate to use their old one if it doesn't violate terms of the acquisition or any non-compete clauses in the contract. They may have to start with low-end phones as well, like the Asha or X line, and we might not see a flagship-class phone until the end of the decade if not later. Ask Jolla and One Plus One how hard it is to startup a new high-hype phone company. New Nokia might have to saddle itself with a larger OEM - multi-national or maybe the Chinese - just to get things going. And there's always the possibility of being acquired by another company, or staying the path of just software and mapping and such. For all we know this job posting might just to be figuring out an API for PureView camera software for Android phones, but without PureView-class lenses and hardware (including true physical OIS, not the software-based crap that just crops the video until it appears stable), it won't be a true PureView experience.
80. sgamao (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Feb 2013)
Job posting might indeed be for camera API on Android, using the HERE location platform and technologies like LiveSight.
By the way, should Nokia restart to build smartphones it might follow the "fabless" path as Jolla or OnePlus, but Sony and Apple's one as well. Nowadays the most difficult job it's designing the phone and the software that runs on it, not building it itself. Of course, comparable to Jolla and OnePlus, Nokia wouldn't need that much effort to build a brand, as everyone in the world knows it already.
41. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1290; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I have always felt that Nokia should have made Android smart phones and MS Windows
smart phones from the very beginning but Microsoft gave Nokia money to stay afloat and Mr Elop and the Previous Nokia board went exclusively MS Windows smart phones. Now Nokia has 7 billion dollars from Microsoft enough money to make smart phones and Tablets again.
Nokia could come back under a new Brand Name and do just that sell Android smart phones and MS windows smart phones because Windows smart phones OS is now like Android "FREE" no license fees needed to use it. however to use the Google Play store
apps Google forces OEM"S to make certain agreements to use Google services. Good OLD
Microsoft Has the "X2" open source Android OS smart phone but killed the Nokia X, X+ and XL android smart phones. Microsoft's best "BET" is to keep the MS/Nokia "X2" alive so that it has something to offer Those who like Android devices and Apps or make a "Blue Stacks" type App that can enable Windows Smart phones and Tablets to run any Android App.
from what I heard from "Mary JO Folly" a Microsoft expert reporter. Microsoft has some of it's Programmers giving Windows mobile devices that capability. if they succeed Windows smart phones and Tablets will be cross platform devices which would greatly help their sales.
43. Tuxedo (Posts: 208; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
This is gonna be great. It's time for Nokia to show MS what its capable of. I hope they succeed.
44. abhi24 (Posts: 11; Member since: 23 Mar 2014)
Come on Nokia, everyone of us want to see u rise again.....
45. LikeMyself (Posts: 365; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)
Why sticking to one OS when you could enjoy other OS as well, Nokia! This is similar to gals or guys! Why stick to only one when u can have more!
48. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2484; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I started out on Motorola and Nokia phones. Will definitely be looking forward to trying out a real attempt by them to do an android phone.
51. Loubielou (Posts: 345; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Nokia was so Popular with phones,an was Struggling to Advance Symbian Further,then Apple an Android came along an Struggled even more,then the Nokia Board accepted they needed so Help,an as soon as Mr Elop came along people knew it was something to do with Microsoft,who always have thought that they are as Popular as Apple,but they were just Dreaming,Nokia switched to Windows but it did not seem to suit the Nokia name and as not been so Popular,so Glad that the Nokia team is still available,an we do get a Android phone in the near Future to show to Mr Elop an Microsoft they did not really want to be a Partnership with You,an only did this because of Financial problems
52. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I'd buy Nokia Android if top shelf spec's.
It'd be hilarious if they get back in the swing before MS exits there factories.
59. Damo579 (Posts: 240; Member since: 18 May 2013)
This is interesting. Lets see how it plays out. I've always been a Nokia fan regardless of OS so yes if they make an android I will buy one. Its possible they had this in place since MS bought the phone division, they made the z launcher to learn about android so they know what they are doing when they can make phones again.
60. Looser99 (Posts: 59; Member since: 10 Nov 2013)
Hell Yeah... Clear black display, pure view sensor, nokia's ultra durable solid build quality and genius battery life... Here comes a great challenger in the current Android Flagship War !
64. Alex123 (Posts: 241; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Wow.... I am very very excited if the news to be trusted. Go Nokia... I am sure all of your (past and current) fans will support you. I will use my 925 till you come back to make phone again. Don't disappoint us Nokia. God bless you!