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Nokia has only sold 330,000 Lumia devices in the US

0. phoneArena 13 Jul 2012, 14:29 posted on

Judging by recent Nielsen and comScore numbers, it appears that Nokia has not even hit the half million mark with sales of their US Lumia models, suggesting US sales are not as rosy as have been implied...

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posted on 14 Jul 2012, 01:19 3

58. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Penny, I appreciate you taking the time to compose your response. You put time into a thoughtful and respectful response and I appreciate your effort. The challenge in commenting on articles and posts made regarding articles is to provide insight and appreciation into the issue(s) raised by the article. Some times I am able to provide food for though; other times I don't succeed.

My response was not intended to be a challenge or an attack. If it appeared to be such to you, please accept my sincere apologies, as it was not meant to be. Yes, many of my responses can be presumed to be biased, but then my identity (Droid_X_Doug) should indicate that. :-)


posted on 14 Jul 2012, 02:35 3

59. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

This is a fair statement to make. We all have our bad days on here. Some days it seems that nothing but s**tty news comes in for Android, some days things are awesome for Android but not for iOS. Some days there's some good news for WP, and Blackberry is just perenially s**tty.

I personally would like to give WP more of a chance to grow on me, but Microsoft's arrogance and its insistence on attacking Android for things like slow updates and malware have kind of turned me off to it.

That, and if I went to Windows Phone I couldn't dream of punching Ballmer in the f**king face anymore. :D

posted on 14 Jul 2012, 02:49 1

60. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)

When Windows Phone 8 fails, they will kick out CEO Stephen Elop. When the share price falls, then Jolla Mobile and Co. can buy off NOKIA for a takeover.

Facts are stranger than fiction. Who knows what may happen.

posted on 14 Jul 2012, 07:23 1

65. akita256 (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)

That's why I never believed the numbers that AT&T was announcing in the beginning. I never thought they were actually selling out. THOSE were the numbers that were made up.

posted on 14 Jul 2012, 11:43 2

70. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


There is no need to apologize. You are free to express your opinions on these boards and I did not take anything you said personally. I also did not mean to direct my statements directly at you, but rather was referring to my frustration with the way fans of any company don't seem to put forth an effort to be objective on these forums in general.


That is fair enough as well. Although I believe Microsoft attacking Android to increase the value of its own product is just a marketing strategy, it can be a polarizing one that pushes people away. And I guess there's no substitute for wanting to punch Ballmer in the face, lol.

posted on 22 Jul 2012, 15:07

91. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)

Well, even with the thumbs down. I'm glad to see I was vindicated. There were 600K Lumia's sold and 330K were Lumia 900s. Like I stated before I had a feeling your previous reported numbers were under reported. Yes, inaccurate and partial at best. That's all.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 07:48 1

92. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)

you're wrong whodaboss.... they sold 600k devices in North America... including Symbian and S30phones... Symbian sales took 0.5% of the phones sold in NA during Q2 and Lumias sold 0.65%, I don't know what S30 sold as I couldn't find any reports listing (never is for featurephones)

So I don't know where you made your numbers up but learn to read...

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:46 11

3. kunyuk (Posts: 56; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)

Great job Elop!!! Great job!!!!
Fire that fag CEO

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:57 12

8. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)

I don't think it matters if it was Elop or not, Nokia was going to go down the tubes because of a refusal to adapt to the current market. If not Elop, they would look for a CEO with a stubborn refusal to change and agrees with their viewpoints. They could of gotten a CEO that would of stuck with Symbian and would still be in the same boat they're in now.

Same thing with RIM, a refusal to adapt. Not to sound like a fanboy, but if they had adopted Android, they'd be rolling in cash like Samsung, Motorola and HTC.

posted on 14 Jul 2012, 11:39 3

69. jack1059 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)

Couldnt let this go without comment. Nokia had a transition strategy to move its app development to QT under symbian. Then transition their developers and users to Meego while slowly moving away from symbian. Elop came along, threw symbian off a cliff, canned the Meego / QT strategy and refused to sell the N9 in anything but minor markets. That despite good reviews for the phone / OS. Who in their right mind refuses to make money and recoup development costs? Then signed an exclusivity agreement with MS and said he had no back up plan. Seriously? What ceo has no back up plan? Marketshare at the start of elops tenure - 30%. Now its what 4%. Current share price - $1.80 and ranked as junk. All in the space of a year and a half So yes nokia's current predicament is directly attributed to elop.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:53 7

4. marcus_lhz (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)

and with the notice that will be no upgrade for wp8....the grave is ready...

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:55 6

5. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Nokia is down with Windows Phone switch to Android now or will gone next year.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:56 5

6. torr310 (Posts: 1016; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

Nokia is too conservative to fire their CEO.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 21:27 2

48. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)

They have "fired" OPK before, a FInnish Nokia CEO. They have done it once, they can do it again.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 14:56 11

7. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

I would have bought a N8 with Symbian or an N9 with Meego over any Lumia phones.. heard that Nokia..

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 15:02 3

9. fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 07 Mar 2011)


posted on 13 Jul 2012, 18:14 4

32. wendygarett (unregistered)

You love meego linux based. Then why you hate android? Lol

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 20:32 4

44. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


posted on 13 Jul 2012, 15:08 1

11. ppLVR (Posts: 12; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

These Number a obviously flawed -_- .Anybody with common sense can know those numbers are impossible.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 15:10 1

13. ppLVR (Posts: 12; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

3,300,000 would sound like a more believable figure (3.3million)

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 22:20 4

51. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Nothing's impossible....

The rise of the iPhone and Android, the fall of RIM and Win Mo should tell anyone with common sense that.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 15:12 7

14. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

best strategy
main os : android
2nd os : meego (if it gets better than android which is possible it will be 1st)
3rd test os : symbian (for new technology like the PureView)

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 15:13 9

15. ryq24 (Posts: 757; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

when nokia announce its shifting to windows, their sales plunged as everyone knows there will no longer b support for symbian. now they said their windows phone will not be upgraded to wp8 and again their sales disappoint. nokia dug themselves a big hole!

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 16:16

20. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

I don't know if I should believe those numbers or not, with the marketing Nokia has done and also the high satisfaction rating. Like someone else said earlier, its utterly impossible!

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 17:08 5

27. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Now I'm starting to believe in those numbers. Exclusive to ATT didn't work. Poorly excuted distribution.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 16:29 3

21. joex2 (Posts: 22; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)

"only sold 330,000 Lumia devices in the US" Lumia is only available on AT&T.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 17:02 4

26. willard12 (Posts: 1901; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

Lumia 710 on T-Mobile

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 22:25 3

52. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Dont know why the thumbs down....this is right...lol. Its even in the article....

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 16:58 7

25. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

Personally my favorite manufacture is HTC and my favorite OS is easily Android but, I love Nokia and WP is a wonderful OS. It's visually pleasing, light on the phones memory and simple to use with a touch of customization. I believe that if Nokia/Windows simply made more powerful devices then they would attract more customers. I mean even on this site we're constantly arguing about which phone is more powerful. So it obviously matters to a majority of smartphone costumers that their phone have the best specs. on the market. The Lumia 900 is great and all but, the market standard for high-end smartphones is the iPhone and, there's no doubting that because it's the first thing we compare all smartphones to. In the case of the Lumia 900 is just doesn't stack up in the power department which is very important to a lot of customers. Also, the Windows apps store is already missing tons of popular apps that customers want but, the problem is made even worse by the fact the the WP flagship device is not even capable of running larger apps like Gameloft and Madfinger games which are very important to a reasonable big part of the smartphone community. This is especially important because, Microsoft has been known to use their Xbox Live service to try and attract customers and get them excited about the Lumia 900 but, so far there isen't much to get excited about. I've heard that Gameloft will be making some games for Windows Phone phone but, they will probably lack in comparison to what the games play like on Android and iOS. Personally, I don't think I would seriously consider buying a Nokia/WP until they step up the spec. sheet and I don't think I'm alone.

posted on 13 Jul 2012, 17:14 5

28. Pdubb (Posts: 248; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)

Meanwhile it is projected that Nokia has sold 3.8 million devices worldwide. According to another PA article.
I guess I will wait until the reports come out next week and maybe they will say for sure. It just seems strange that it was at the top of the list at tmo and amazon and for a while at&t but it was not selling well. Strange that other phones were selling below it but it only sold several hundred thousand.

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