Nokia gives you 10 reasons to want the Nokia Lumia 1020
0. phoneArena 13 Jul 2013, 11:59 posted on
The Nokia Lumia 1020 took the majority of our attention this past week; and while our loyal readers probably don't need any encouragement to lust in their hearts for the handset the same way that Jimmy Carter told Playboy in 1976 that he lusts after...uh...let's just say peanuts, Nokia has posted a top ten list of reasons to want the device...
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24. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Do you remember that movie "Mean Girls" where the one girl says to the other "Stop trying to make fetch happen, it's not going to happen"?
Well, stop trying to make phamera happen, it's not going to happen.
You've been saying that word for over a month now on this site and it's not catching on.
26. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Dr.Phil, I'm not the one who started the word 'Phamera', it was somebody in here started this (I don't remember who it is).
Let's just say 'Phablet', when peoples first heard the word 'Phablet' they laughed, but now it's in, like the 'Phamera' will be "in" in a few years.
29. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Phablet became a word because when Samsung introduced the Galaxy Note they just had the two words up on the screen: phone. tablet. Writers immediately combined the two words into the word "phablet". It's something that is easy to remember and with just one look you can tell what the word is about: the combination of a phone and a tablet.
The word phamera, however, is not that catchy. Also, what is the word about? When I look at the word, I have to question whether they mean a phablet with a camera or a phone with a camera? I am automatically assuming you mean a phablet with a camera, which the Lumia 1020 is not a phablet.
Oh, and not to mention the biggest reason why we shouldn't even be making up a word for this is because the word "cameraphone" has already existed for years now.
35. apnwp (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Dude, Phone+Camera=Phamera......a phone with a camera ....Why not?...why r u assuming tablet....?...Phone+ tablet=Phablet & Phone+Camera=Phamera...It is easy to catch like phablet...
45. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I was assuming a phablet plus a camera because the "pha-" in phablet combined with the "-mera" in camera gives you phamera.
Also, I am assuming you must be young to not remember there already is a word for a phone and camera combined, it's called a camera phone.
82. apnwp (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 May 2013)
lollollollollollollol....I know there is a word for a camera phone.for understanding camera phone we dont need go wikipedia..:)...Whtever.. we can call PHABLET as a tablet phone...cant we?..u said camera phone...now i can say tablet phone ...:D... Man xperiaDROID picked up new word for camera phone catgory "PHONE+ CAMERA=PHAMERA". IS it wrong wht he said????? Just answer me..I think everyone understood it excpt u..so , I am assuming u must be old to not understand what he said....:D..
38. Kal-el (Posts: 91; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
YO CALM down it's word....i'm sorry are u the dictionary police? noo so whatever man going cray for no reason as usual with these useless phone-arena users...it like me saying you shouldn't use dr. phil name since well all know there another of him so it's not funny and stop telling people what to do as u are not a pHD to give advice and thus falsely misleadin people .....just pointless......
44. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I have no idea what you just said. The lack of proper grammar and spelling mistakes ruined whatever you were trying to say. I never told anyone what to do, but rather I made an opinion and voiced it. I'm sorry I am not like most other users that just agree with each other or care about whether they were "thumbs'd up" or not. The irony is that you are trying to say that I tell people what to do and how that is wrong while also giving me an order to stop giving advice or opinions. Way to be a hypocrite.
81. Kal-el (Posts: 91; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
Quote "its like me saying you shouldn't use dr. phil name since " i didn't TELL u to do anything thus not making me a hypocrite sorry im not a grammar nazi for ur brain to understand english.... i was giving you an example clearly u grasping at straws since "u couldn't understand me" when a text like this proves that you can....
my WHOLE point was that's it was pointless u can do whatever u want i was doing you a favor telling you not waste ur time like the crazy people or "TROLLs" here but w/e u have alot of time on ur hands to comment and correct grammar and be commissioner chief of police off the dictionary.
i'm off duty
83. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
That wasn't the line I was talking about. It was when you said "stop telling people what to do as u are not a pHD to give advice and thus falsely misleadin people."
Telling me to "stop" is giving me an order.
Also, you never sounded as if you were just trying to do me a favor by telling me to not waste my time. I must have been confused since you said "YO CALM down it's word....i'm sorry are u the dictionary police? noo" which to me sounded argumentative in nature instead of just telling me to stop wasting my time.
If that was your intent, then I apologize, but you sure didn't make it seem that way.
84. Kal-el (Posts: 91; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
that was a continuing the "like if i were to say..." part...but fair enough, yes my intent was don't waste ur time correcting these people .... and "yo calm down" was like who gives a F*** generally LOL but it was probably poor choice in formulating my sentences
90. Dastrix (unregistered)
I think it was EXkurogane who started it when describing the then unofficial Nokia EOS. That was brilliant!
78. Boogieman (Posts: 10; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
Or maybe Cartphone :)
Or simply Lumia 1020
2. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Very good points Nokia but I can't help myself say that there only 10 points on the camera! Now do 10 points on the device and I'm sold!
5. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
This phone is just as good as S4 or One in other things, its just better in camera.
11. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
True, the camera will be class leading for a long time. Though I just wish Nokia would embrace the removable battery (I know, I'm probably in the minority in this).
60. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Nokia has been making smartphones with removeable batteries for years. However, the success of the iPhone series has proven this is not so critical for the average consumer. There are some advantages to a unibody with non-removeable battery...greater rigidity of the chassis, lower weight and less manufacturing complexity given no door/latch mechanism present. That being said, I still prefer the option to remove the battery...or something like the N8 where the battery is easily self-replaceable.
In any event, Nokia still makes a hi quality device where battery removal is designed into the phone. Unlike the HTC ONE, where battery removal goes up against its glued/pressed construction. This type of design requires one to deform the device to get the battery out...the fit finish will never be the same after this procedure.
69. -box- (Posts: 3968; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'd prefer an external, separately chargeable battery over an internal replaceable one, if only because you don't have to power on/off the device to switch power sources. I personally haven't ever had my Lumia 900 freeze, but there was an issue with a very small amount of first-release 900s where they'd freeze and have to be reset by holding the power and camera buttons, which apparently more or less worked; Nokia pushed an update to fix it within a week or so if I recall. No further issues stemmed from that that I encountered in the forums or personally.
79. Boogieman (Posts: 10; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
+1 on removable battery and most of all memory slot
28. Jason2k13 (Posts: 832; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
it will never be good in other things because it is not android.
30. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Android is a long way from being perfect (fragmented, insecure, resource hog). I think it's presumptive to assume that a device sucks because it doesn't use a particular OS or show a specific brand name...
33. Jason2k13 (Posts: 832; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
So you being stuck on a lumia device, and having the same tiles like everyone else makes you proud of your phone?
Every android device is unique and provides the costumer with choices. I dont know about you but i surely dont want to wear clothes or drive a car that looks exactly the same as everyone elses.
If android is far from perfect then what do you call WP? Androids b*tch?
41. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Why on earth would I care about modifying the background colors for my mobile device UI when the default already functions in an effecient manner? Unlike yourself, I use my smartphone as a computer device, not as wearable fashion. I want something that works, not something to impress my friends with. The only reason I would ever seek out Android is because it has some interesting apps that can do things like control my motherboard, or act as my TV remote. However, WP has great features too, and is much more secure...
The argument about the merits of either OS is starting to become like that old lame rehash of PC vs MAC. However, I cannot build and modify a smartphone and then give it a custom CPU or GPU cooler. Overclocking is pointless, and I don't play games on my smartphone because the graphics suck compared to my PC. You bragging to me about the virtues of Android for the sake of changing the colors or background graphic is absurd. Nokia WP smartphones just work, and they're strong and sturdy. The Lumia 1020 will allow me to leave my point & shoot camera at home. Good!
Stop your complaining, and go brag to somebody else that you were able to make your own custom icons...
43. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 140; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
true...camera ws bound to be great on Lumia 1020,,,but rest of the specs r frm last year(not full hd,etc),,,and to top that a lesser os,,,not very good selection of apps(as much as ppl deny it,,,its true,,i mean not evn many google apps r there)
AND its not cheap,,,,Nokia is making the same mistakes BB made,,,they should understand their position in the market and then decide their prices,,apple can sell their products at that price but not nokia,,,so this cud end badly..
Microsoft is too good at making desktop os,,,there is no topping that atleast fr now,,,but if there is one os even more boring than ios,,its wp...
its not like everything is gonna go mobile in the future(...NO...),,and mobile version of any device ll ALWAYS be less powerful than their counterparts,,,there is nothing like too much power,,,the more the power,the more use ll be there..so Microsoft should try and focus there,,and make their hold even stronger,,by introducing even more powerful devices,,same can be said abt nvidia(though they cn focus on both,,mayb they cn come up with something real good,,,tegra 4 is a start)
second,,there is no os more or less secure,,each of them is about the same(theoritically android should be more secure),,,everything is hackable,,,its only the matter of which os is getting more attention,,,,where there r less users there ll be less malware,,,its as simple as that...
for example there is more malware on desktop version of windows than all the mobile OSes combined(though soon it ll change)..
48. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
I have no clue where all of this hate towards Nokia and Microsoft is coming from, but I suspect that many of these so called bashers posting on PA are actually the same person using duplicate accounts. Also, pretending that Nokia's 41MP smartphone camera is nothing to brag about and that Android smartphones are able to match it's power and quality is dishonest and misleading. Even with last year's S4 Snapdragon processor and Adreno 225 gpu the device is still more than capable of running every important app that exists for WP8 OS. Those who like to claim that WP8 cannot measure up to due to the lack of apps have yet to make a convincing argument as to what critical piece of software is missing that makes Android or iOS vastly superior. Also, ranting about the WP UI being "too boring" is just plain dumb. Microsoft's tile based interface is extremely fast and intutive, and it does everything needed to make adjustments, or open and run files.
The only thing WP8 is really missing is support for 1080P displays; but that will come soon, in the GDR3 update. I also think it's about time PhoneArena started tracking IP addresses and banning duplicate accounts, as well as k-lining entire IP ranges if need be. Then we'll see how many Microsoft and Nokia critics are really left on these forums! About half as many as there are now I would hazard to guess...
The Lumia 1020 is a great smartphone with an excellent rear facing camera that will allow users to take quality pictures, and they will not have to bother with a seperate point & shoot camera. It's the very best of it's particular class, and is relatively sleek and thin, making this a worthy device that will interest any serious photographer, or photo enthusiast.
54. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 140; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
So..wht u r saying is that evrybody who sees things fr wht they really are(and sales ll show wht i said b4)..is actually a single person with multiple accounts...hahahaha..
i am not showing any hate...dint i say microsoft ppl are the best at desktop os.. nokia is using an old formula to just hv a good camera in a device and expect it to sell...which is ok up2 some standards...but like i said b4 ..they r nt in a condition 2 demand tht much money..this cud make them go back 2 the place where BB is...a camera phn wid mediocre specs and a lesser os isnt worth tht much+they dont hv the brand value like apple or samsung....so it is a stupidity to put the cost so high..
nokia had a great brand value once..so did BB..
but nw they shud realize whr they r standing..
and regarding apps..well just google it and u ll knw..i mean wp store doesnt evn hv instagram..and i ll not evn talk abt games..cuz whn it comes to games suddenly all wp fanboys becum adults and stop playing games..and how they play them on their tv,monitor,etc..
but less availability of apps shows less intrest of developers in the os ecosystem..in general..
u say that lumia 1020 harware is able 2 run everything smoothly..ofc it wud..there is nothing heavy or graphic extensive on wp...and given the hardware of the new gen flagships of wp(lumia 1020)..it shows tht anything like that wont be available anytime soon..
P.S. this is my one and only account.. but believe what u want..denial ll get u nowhere..
56. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
AwesomestMaximuss, I defend my words about duplicate accounts being used by some persons on PA to bash Nokia and Microsoft products and services. I think these people should be tracked and otherwise prevented from being able to continue posting with the same IP address. Although it is entirely possible they will still use a proxy or another non-identified IP address, that means additional effort for them. However, I was not actually refering to yourself, so don't get worked up about it...
As for your own claim that WP8 OS is somehow "inferior" to Android, that is certainly not the case. I'll admit that It does offer less customization and flexibility, but some of that is deliberate. WP8 is more secure and faster than Android, and it takes up less processing and memory resources, which is why the Lumia 520 can demolish it's nearest Android competitors. The UI was built for speed and minimal resources, but that doesn't mean that WP8 OS cannot run the standard mobile apps and games that are common to both Android and iOS. The idea that Nokia's Lumia 1020 is underpowered comes from Android's inability to effectively utilize less powerful hardware, which is why Samsung and HTC and others are forced to use Quadcore in their flagships. There is no such requirement for Nokia. Also, while WP8 does have less apps and games than Android and iOS, there are more than enough to make the WP8 device platform appealing and easy to use.
Finally, as far as Instagram is concerned, I think it's vastly over-rated. As well, I have no clue why they continue to foot-drag bringing their app to WP8 OS, when virtually all other major software vendors have already done so. Do not confuse the Instagram app with serious photography software, okay? The Lumia 1020 provides an option to export a high resolution image file which can be used for printing high quality 8x10's on an inkjet, or else opened in Adobe Photoshop or Lightroom. This eliminates the need for seperate compact point and shoot camera, and the 1020 is worth exactly what they are charging for it. No other Android or iOS device comes even close in terms of camera performance, and the 1020 is in a league of it's own.
Ultimately, it depends what you want. I choose WP8 for security and speed, and because Nokia builds the best camera smartphones. Nokia also have the best audio recording (dual HAAC microphones) as well, and their flagship devices are multimedia wonders. My advice is to buy one, and use it, before you knock it...
75. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 140; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
Well u r driven by the philosophy..that anything u dont have,u dont want...but its foolish to think nobody else want it..
and instagram isnt abt just photography..its about social networking..and btw knox which is now on galaxy s4 is way more safer than anything windows cn provide..
and windows hardware is not able to run heavy games etc...its not abt android or ios or wp...
Every manufacturer future proof their handsets...nokia not doing it only shows that nothing graphic or processing extensive is ever coming to wp..i mean its been just an year since the launch of wp8 and microsoft already announced they r not gonna be supporting it after 3 years..which means their expectations lies with their next os..
and i hv always agreed lumia 1020 is the best at camera...but thats it..
lumia 1020 isnt worth what it costs..and like i said sales ll show that what i said is true...
a better choice ll be to go for a good point and shoot camera for 200 bucks and get lumia 920 fr free..
i hv used wp enuf..with samsung devices fr wp7 and lumia 520 as my third phone with wp8..extremely boring ui with negligible customization...and my phine end up looking like the same as other ppl..atleast wid ios u hv so many choices after jailbreaking..
And again sales ll show if i am right or not..i can understand that u wont accept that wht i said is true..
61. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Whatever ecosystem you are using, it seems to lack a decent spell and grammar check capability.
76. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 140; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
My english is quite ok..although i accept it is not my first language so there may b some mistakes..
but i am wondering how wud u do if u weren't concentrating ur efforts in2 a single sentence..
51. lorenzattractor (Posts: 67; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
@Jason2k13 You certainly have never used a Windows Phone. The home screen can be personalized with the things that are important to you. Of course the customizations are not like in Android, but they are there. My parents have WP devices (Og. Focus and a Lumia 900), and other than being tiles, their homescreens look nothing like mine.
70. -box- (Posts: 3968; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
So you make your own clothes and built your own DOT/NHTSA-certified road vehicle totally unique from anything else ever made? Color me impressed.
As for the tiles, they are not only moveable, interchangeable, and customizable, they can be - like widgets - resized, made to perform certain functions, and do pretty much anything most widgets can. They're just set up to be more user-friendly and less of a messy riot of clashing colors and textures or backgrounds, so less like MySpace and more like something made by and for rational intelligent adults who want their phones to work and be quickly functional at a glance rather than needing to modify every aspect of the thing to make it work right l, which can lead to more crashing and resource hogging.
Remember, anything Android can do, Symbian could do before, better, and with fewer resources, and Nokia alone has that experience, and we know we'll be seeing more and more Symbian and MeeGo goodies blended in with the Windows Phone (and maybe even computer as well) platform, much like how the Amber update brings Glance and double-tap to unlock, and flip-to-silence.
27. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1001; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Well, technically it was 9 reasons that dealt with the camera and 1 reason that dealt with the app store and Nokia Music. I totally agreed with the first 9, but I have to admit I wasn't really convinced by the last point. If anything, it reminded me that Google and Apple both have about 700,000 applications in their respective stores. Not to say that all of those apps are something you would use or that aren't junk, but it does go to show where the app development is still at.
As far as the rest of the device is concerned, while it may not have the high definition screen or quad-core processor of the competition, you probably won't notice the differences between it and a Galaxy S4 or HTC One that much unless you are playing graphical games on it.
40. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
If anything, it seems like we're moving backwards. The promise of JAVA back in the day was for it to build applications that could be run on any machine, regardless of the foundation OS, but all of that has failed to materialize, and we're back in the dark ages with competing platforms...
62. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Frankly, when the WP ecosystem hits 250,000 apps and covers all of the top 200 apps with a hi quality experience...the whole argument about how many total apps exist between the three ecosystems will be moot for the vast majority of consumers. I suspect this threshold will be surpassed within the next 6 months.
77. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 140; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
Then y does the vast majority buys android instead of wp??
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
How about just 1 reason - send a production version of the L1020 out for a full-on review?
Let the chips fall where they may.
4. milesboy5 (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
How about just one reason most of the people in the United States can't get it... Its an AT&T exclusive
8. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
This. I'm not changing Carriers just to get this. I'm probably going to buy it unlocked, but it should really be available on every carrier. :/
7. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
gave 10 reasons to buy but took one reason to not let us buy "USA Carrier Exlusive" no information of rest of the plannet where actully people buy nokia
9. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
Put this on android and won't have to convince anyone as why they should buy it lol
10. ajac09 (Posts: 1430; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
biggest reason not to get one: Its a nokia
13. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
naa nokias actually good, i just prefer andorid, no hate to windows phone tho
71. -box- (Posts: 3968; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Nokia makes the best phones in the world. I don't really know of anyone who didn't have a positive experience with their older Nokia (those old enough to have had one then). They were so good they were able to sell them for tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars in their Vertu line (now a divested asset). Only way to do that with a generic smartphones is to encrust it with jewels it cover it in expensive metals, but it's still the same lame phone.
14. xperia1409 (Posts: 11; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Instead buying this Camera.....oops!!!....sorry phone
Buy A Good D-SLR and A good Smartphone(S4,HTC ONE,Z,etc etc)
16. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nokia should add one more reason : The Nokia Lumia 1020 is as strong as Chuck Norris.
19. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Nah, only the 3310 is. Though, given some basic math, the 1020 is about 1/3 has tough.
20. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Yeah, the 3310 is the 'REAL' Chuck Norris, but don't forget that Lumias, Ashas etc. are tough as well, they have amazing quality.
23. papss (unregistered)
My red l920 took many drops with only a scuff in the top corner. It was pretty reassuring.
18. Muzammil (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
camera is not everything for a phone ..
Nokia need work on os
22. cdgm2509 (Posts: 30; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
That'll be Microsoft not Nokia... but I agree with you.