Nokia gives Android attitude hours ahead of big Lumia event
0. phoneArena 05 Sep 2012, 07:00 posted on
Nokia has a huge announcement to make today - its joint event with Microsoft in the Big Apple kicks off in just around two hours…
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1. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3756; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
I saw the photo and came up with Lumia beans!! :P
18. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
See I love competition just like the next person, but I really think Nokia & WP need to slow their roll just a little. I mean it's good to have swagger but after you at least do something in the mobile space.
WP is starting right now to release dual-core phones when Android is now into quad-core phones with 2GB of RAM. I could really understand if they were a firm in the mobile game but their recent achievements include finally outselling RIM is really not that huge of an achievement. Bada has more phones than WP.
I really want to root for Microsoft. I really like Windows 8 a LOT. Their new Nokia's are very nice & sexy but to take such a blatant shot at the top dog Android to me seems very arrogant & not very well played.
I think Microsoft & Nokia should be humble & make some noise & then start to talk but right now it looks more like cheap talk than something we should take seriously. It’s almost embarrassing to talk when you don’t even have a foot to stand on.
34. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3756; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
You know what i'm thinking? Nokia has something planned...i think they might release something different. Why would they keep poking their nose where it don't belong? I might be wrong here...but you know, the official release date is today, but why would they leak pictures of their phones if today's the date? It doesn't make sense. Those pictures might be prototypes...getting me?
36. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You know what, I am starting to think that way too. It just seems so unlike Nokia to be doing all of this.
45. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3756; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Have to wait and see to make it sure. According to Nokia, ATIV was a warm up act. If those phones pictured above are the 'thing' supposed to outperform ATIV, I'll find another phone brand to put my trust on. Lol.
2. MeoCao (unregistered)
It will be another big flop from axis MS-Nokia.
24. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Yeah, totally butthurt because Windows has an amazing 3% of the mobile space!
35. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Oops I meant to thumb you DOWN.
Android sells 7million in a week.
Wp sells 7 million in 9 months.
Remember Nokia promising big for the wp 7?
"Lumia 900 will blow your socks off!"
It sold FIVE TIMES LESS THAN GALAXY NOTE, AT HALF THE ASKING PRICE.
"We will disrupt the eco system order"(MS &Nokia promises TWO YEARS AGO
Pathetic is an understatement
42. SleepingOz (unregistered)
It's easier to trash-talk than to compete.
47. andro. (Posts: 1998; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
The Nokia lumias have probably been the slowest selling handsets we've had in years,I remember Nokia reps telling us to expect huge sales figures from them,we laughed then,now we don't laugh,too much unsold wp stock backlogging and not within a sniff of being sold. Wp8 will generally be no different.
From Nokia's point of view they have to come out fighting here as its sink or swim for them,unfortunately for Nokia they've jumped onboard a ship called windows which already had hit ten icebergs
55. Aeires (unregistered)
I heard it was 8 icebergs.
48. arsenaljimenez (Posts: 178; Member since: 03 May 2012)
That might be true, but android has so many phones running it, which most are trash, so of course it will sell more, than doesn't mean anything. Quality over quantity.
49. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Android also has high end phones so would that mean quality and quantity? The low end phones are there to cater to the less fortunate and the high end to cater to those looking for top of the line edge of cellphone tech. I am still looking forward to trying W8 phones simply to check out the new OS but Nokia is getting an "Appletude" I went from being an Apple fan (said loosely) to an Android fan (with an open mind) but to be honest until Nokia/MS push something crazy it will be a very slow uphill grind.
50. arsenaljimenez (Posts: 178; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Im not syaing there are no high end androids, there aobviously are, some that I would own myself, but apart from those, the majority of the phones on android are trash. Low end phones, yes made for the less fortunate. Windows phone doesn't have of too many of those yet, so It isn't fair to compare sales with android.
51. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Then compare the S3 to the highest selling Nokia phone and the 4S what do you get? Difference between the new Android phones is they are pushing for new tech.. Apple is adapting old tech to their phones. Nokia is good when it comes to style and trying but its like a race.. if you fall as hard as Nokia did and broke your ankle.. its pretty hard to catch back up to those in first place. I mean no disrespect to Nokia. But to say its unfair to compare is just silly. Lower end Android phones are not even all that bad they just don't have the required hardware to run such a resource hungry OS. As its been said a million times.. if Android was just an app drawer even the garbage phones would run smooth as butter. Also keep in mind all the new phones coming with JB project butter included will be silky smooth even on a mid-range. Windows is a lot like Apple in the sense they don't like making low end.. they just like selling the previous model for cheaper
52. arsenaljimenez (Posts: 178; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I never said comparing the phones is unfair, I said comparing sales is.
Imma have to disagree on that one, lower end android are garbage. Have you used a windows phone? It hasn't lagged on me once, and I've had it since windows 7 came out. I had the galaxy S 4g before this samsung focus, and that galaxy S lags way too much, and it was one of the higher end when I got it. Yeah Jelly Bean might change things, but even if it does, wp7 already did what they are bearely doing, lag free devices. And yes even the lower end wp7
53. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
So your saying Windows Phones are ahead of the curve? lol. Ahead of Android in the sense of an OS? Perhaps more capable at completing tasks?? People whine over Android lagging but do they have a new Android or a free one? You get what you pay for.
54. arsenaljimenez (Posts: 178; Member since: 03 May 2012)
When we are talking about lag, and easy to use yes. What else would you need from a phone? Tell me, have you used a windows phone? Have you used the keyboard, no other phone comes close to it. The more important and useful things you use a phone for, im confident windows is better. Android is more advanced right now for sure, but in actual necessities, its nothing special.
Like I said there are so many lower end android phones that people have just because they are cheap, they didn't have a choice. Once windows start making lower ends that are made to compete with those android phones, im very sure people wouldn't go for those android phones. Im talking from experience, I haven't always had the highest end phone, and that lag is irritating, soooo irritating. You don't get that with windows phone.
3. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Why they are so pathetic? It's like the school bully that tries to emerge by humiliating the others instead improving himself.
Greedy Windows over free Linux...sorry I made my choice. Nokia, I preferred you with Belle.
14. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Interesting comment....so when will that windows phone 7 in the picture be updated to wp8?
16. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
it will not and they already told everyone no lies or false stories:P
20. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Cool...so is it ANDROID that makes promises about updates or carriers and OEMS?
37. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i dont know about that ask the one who pointed andoid out i only told WP7 story
22. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Actually it's not the lies or false stories when it comes to the latest Android firmware. It's the fact that they remain silent throughout each new update but they are changing. Samsung and HTC are kept on their toes.
38. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well its all bussness strategy not to keep updating old phones othervise people may not always get new one after a year or 2 it implies to all OEMs
21. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Don't point finger mate, tell that to all WP7 running device owners first. And to tell you my Android phone got updated atleast 7 times already since I bought it a year ago.. .
12. MeoCao (unregistered)
It's simple: because they can't beat Android with action. MS is pathetic all along, I hated it when MS rejoiced after SS lost the Apple case. And how many times MS top man Ballmer talked down competitors.
MS does not deserve respect.
15. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
We wouldn't have the smartphones (or computers) we do today without Microsoft. Reminds me of the "six-foot turkey" speech in Jurassic Park...
17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
so does u guys dont deserve respect either since u guys always troll other OS what u expect
30. MeoCao (unregistered)
Come on, MS was the last man standing in the PC OS war thanked to a small favor from IBM. And without MS we had many choices like Warp from IBM.
But conditions favored MS in the end.
What MS did was hanging on to the monopoly and crushed all innovation that was not from MS.
4. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
It can't be that MS and Nokia are just plainly mocking Android.
I'm thinking of a native dual-boot feature.
6. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Don't think so, MS is pushing to be exclusive - they paid Nokia to be unique.
5. karas (Posts: 77; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
over ambitious!! Survive first . Then try taking down Android
8. San_Jogg (Posts: 3; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Every company will fall, Nokia is a god damn phoenix
27. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Nokia is a phoenix? Nokia's market share has totally plummeted and guess what, they aren't even the exclusive manufacturer for WP8... talk about putting all your eggs in the wrong basket.
7. redmd (Posts: 1268; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
We could think of it this way: Lumia on Android 4.1. Who wouldn't want one?
10. breathlesstao (unregistered)
Oh no, you di'n't... -_- such attitude is just tolerable even from manufacturers who actually CAN afford it. Nokia's not been in that position for quite a long time by now.....
25. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Manufacturers that can afford such attitude don't really need it, because product sells by itself.
11. Raptor9142 (Posts: 41; Member since: 15 Apr 2012)
WHile nokia is failing to get market from Android and yet they r trying to save themselve, they actually think that they could take down Android? lol... hahahahaha.. JOKE OF THE YEAR!!
19. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
this picture actullay means that the combination of having jellybean device along with lumia is cool
23. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
I think their strategy is to get people's attention by mocking Android. Well played, Windows, you caught my attention so I will listen. I hope this will not be another flop like what happened on the announcement of the Pureview.
29. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Perhaps Nokia has decided it will start to produce Android Phones?
31. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
i think that would probably be the only way for them to turn a profit again.. MeeGo would have been great tho
32. kamen (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)
Seems most of the people do not do their homework before writing:
If 7 millions is bad figure for new OS with rushed to produce Lumia 800/900, then Android's first year must have been catastrophic. And iPhone? 2007 aside, when it was announced this year, it was around 11 that was sold - 40% more with Apple being all loved, etc.
So, just stand and watch - Nokia is not RIM.
33. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 987; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Lol, empty threat indeed, with phones like the Galaxy S3, Note2, S2, Xperia T, Acro S, LG Optimus G, HTC One X etc...Nokia and MS need a miracle,i guess this is just great publicity for Android JellyBean in the end :)
39. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
its not a threst its like "May i have your attention please" before u start a presentation its not a marketting stunt
40. Androidey (Posts: 7; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
is it me or the lumia in this picture really looks retard??
41. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 987; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Comparing WP to Android and iOSs 1st year makes no sense, both were available on one network (T-Mobile for Android and AT&T for iPhone) and in one country for a long time, WP was widely available globally from Day1. Also, Android and iOS were being launched by companies that were new to the mobile scene, Apple and Google, on the other hand WP is MS's 3rd try if you count the KIN phones, not only that but Nokia was a powerhouse in the mobile scene, when you put this altogether then you realise that WP should be sitting at #1 by now, yet look at it, 7million Lumias, all it has done is drag Nokia down to just another manufacturer having a hard time just trying to break-even.
44. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
It may be Microsoft's third attempt, but it is arguably their best. The original WP7 was an unfinished product, much like how most Android releases up to 3.0 were, if we're honest. ICS 4.0 and JB 4.1 have very much solidified the system and made it that much more of a consistent experience with fewer issues. That said, WP has offered consistency from day one, despite "missing" features, and a pleasant, approachable, and functional experience the entire time as well, regardless of manufacturer, which is an admirable accomplishment, and one I believe they'll continue to offer going forward, with even more and better accomplishments along the way. Do I see WP having Android's market share anytime in the next 2-3 years? No, but I do see them taking a sizeable chunk from iOS mostly, with a little from Android, until there's a close to equal adoption rate for both.
43. keviny (Posts: 8; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Nokia will announce it's first Jellybean running lumia phone.
46. champ_vl (Posts: 44; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
It's so silly of Nokia to declare war (in the name of their WP7/8 running phones) to the Android OS.
The WP7/8 is much more similar to iOS due to it's fluidity, stability and hardware limitations unlike the Android which is fragmented,with no hardware limitations and requires a lot of resources to run well.
So it would make much more sense if they would declare war to the iPhone.