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Nokia executive: youths “fed up” with iPhones, Androids too complex

0. phoneArena 13 Dec 2011, 07:31 posted on

When you can’t beat them with products, you can beat them with words. It seems that that’s the kind of approach taking over at Nokia…

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posted on 13 Dec 2011, 07:41 6

1. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


so nokia claims people think that androids are to complex but yet they still millions upon millions a year. and they think that ppl are sick of iphones -__-

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 12:31 2

40. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Android only started selling because Apple was too expensive for most and Symbian suck(mostly due to bad marketing strategy)

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:25 2

48. SleepingOz (unregistered)


I was expecting Belle this month but it got delayed, as always! And if you think that Symbian sucks because of bad marketing, you sure are in denial, nokia fanboy. It's time to wake up!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 21:12 1

52. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


and as i said it 'Sucked'.....

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 05:29 1

55. SleepingOz (unregistered)


The os in itself SUCKS! Even the "final" leaked version of Belle lags as hell on the N8. It's sure not because of bad marketing or whatever!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 14:30 2

46. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


That is why Android and iOS combined control 80%+ of the U.S. smartphone market - because of the complexity. Yeah, right. Keep it up, and Nokia will be joining RIM in the race for failed business model.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 07:46 14

2. BlazinEmperor (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


LOOL! I'm fed up with smartphones in general, especially Android powered ones... My LG OPTIMUS BLACK has grown weaker by the month, Android Gingerbread has worn out it's innards, So I got a Nokia 701, & it works pretty good, I saw one on youtube running 33 apps without stuttering, though I haven't bothered to stress mine that much.... I just like the seriousness that have gotten into Nokia this year, and I give credit to Accenture for giving us Symbian^Belle...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 11:47 7

37. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1721; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


here's your problem...its an LG

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 11:51 3

39. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


i despise LG phones.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:53 1

49. GeekMovement (unregistered)


I've always had bad experiences with LG phones.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 12:33 2

41. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


i use an LG Optimus 3D and it actually sucks(and Lagg's everyday with its dualcore)

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 07:47 9

3. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


if people are fed up with Androids and iPhone, then why both Android and iPhone still hold the top spots for best smartphones, OS, and market share? Nokia is looking like Window's pimp right now..

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 12:38

42. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


its all about marketing and availabilty....Nokia's been silent even when symbian was thier main platform while Android was marketed now Android is the standard(which was symbian's position)..Nokia, new comer....iPhone @ the top(in terms of quality which we all know Android lacks)

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 07:52 12

4. BlazinEmperor (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


People buy Android phones because their friends cooked up fairy tales about Android OS. 70% of FANdroids use low-end devices, so they don't really get the real Android experience & most of them I know are fed up. But I don't think people are fed up with iOS though...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 08:20 6

11. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


You must know everything...

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 09:36 3

23. karanstyle (Posts: 188; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


even I bought Android on the advices of my friends and family and ANDROID IS PATHETIC!! I've "Samsung Galaxy S2" and its Awfully pathetic even when u hold it in your palms u never get the feel of holding an expensive device. Bloody Bugger!!
I seriously Trust & love Nokia or HTC phones!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 09:49 2

28. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Ummm.... what?

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 16:20 1

47. SleepingOz (unregistered)


haha, I really doubt you have the GSII. Nice trolling attempt though.

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 06:01

56. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Really? awfully pathetic? your moaning makes me really wonder what phone do you really own to criticize a phone of that caliber, 23carat gold plated C7 maybe?

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 10:03 1

31. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


prove 70% is low end

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 12:42

44. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


look around you..

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 12:40

43. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


True TaLk..

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 07:57 13

5. BlazinEmperor (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


Trends come & go, market shares rise & fall.... And those market shares are ESTIMATES... In the real world, there are more Symbian powered phones than any other OS.... Stop thinking like a fish, the world is made up of 7billion people, U.S.A isn't the WORLD!

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 08:08 5

6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Its not?

There are more symbian phones out there for sure, because they put a version of symbian on dumbphones. But this is only talking about smartphones.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 09:15 4

18. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


There's no "symbian version" on dumbphones. S40 used on Nokia's dumbphones has a bit similar UI, but it has nothing to do with Symbian, and phones running it are not counting among Symbian ones. The fact is, that Symbian is the most used mobile OS in the world:http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-200911-201112

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 09:38 4

25. hepresearch (unregistered)


S40 is Java-based, not Symbian-based.

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 20:53

50. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


if you say so hep, i believe ya. :)

i thought that it was basically the same system, just stripped down. that is not correct?

posted on 13 Dec 2011, 22:44 1

53. hepresearch (unregistered)


nope... not correct... Java is, well, Java... from Oracle.

Symbian is actually a derivative of EPOC, which started developing in the 1990's as the OS for Psion PDA devices, and eventually was renamed "Symbian" at version 6.0, when it became officially open-source. The first Symbian smartphones were an obscure Ericsson device that I do not remember exactly (R380, I think...), and the Nokia 9210 Communicator with Series 80.

In 2002, Series 60 started out as a UI overlay for Symbian phones, adopted first by Nokia for Symbian 6.1 on the Nokia 7650, and the appearance and navigation of Series 60 was actually the basis of Series 40, in a rather loose interpretation, as well. Series 40, though, came out after Series 60 and ran on Java, not Symbian, in order to provide better feature phone experiences at the time (replacing early Series 30 builds and other proprietary Nokia UI's). Nokia also introduced the proprietary Series 80 and Series 90 UI's for Symbian 6.0 and 7.0s, which did not garner as much popularity, and were later rolled back into Series 60 in its 3rd and 5th editions, then renamed "S60" (Symbian 9.1 through 9.4).

Sony Ericsson also used Symbian for their early smartphones (pre-Android) along with the UIQ platform. Eventually UIQ was discontinued, and rolled into Symbian^3 (Symbian 9.5) in 2010, along with the discontinued S60 3rd and 5th Editions.

Symbian^2 was developed to work with the MOAP(S) UI on many Japanese FOMA phones in 2010, replacing the use of earlier versions of Symbian (7.0, 8.1b, 9.1, 9.2) as the underpinning for MOAP(S) over the years.

Symbian Belle is the latest build of the so-called Symbian^3, but it is technically Symbian version 10. I imagine it will be the last of Symbian we ever see.

So, Symbian is, in fact, a smartphone platform that competed mostly with Palm OS, Windows Mobile, and BlackBerry... and in recent years attempted to compete with iOS and Android, but to no avail. Hence the replacement of Symbian^3 with Windows Phone Mango...

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 01:32

54. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Belle is not the last Symbian version. We already know about its successors: Carla and Donna.

posted on 14 Dec 2011, 20:25

58. hepresearch (unregistered)


I doubt they will ever be commercially released.

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