Nokia debunks the Android rumor, sends over a different translation of CEO Elop's quote
0. phoneArena 08 Jan 2013, 10:36 posted on
Nokia's PR department was quick to react yesterday to what it deemed a bad translation of the CEO Stephen Elop interview with the Spanish El Pais, where his words "anything is possible" on the topic of Nokia going Android made a couple of tours around the globe, or at least the tech blogosphere part of it...
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46. protozeloz (Posts: 5188; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Why is android ugly and crappy? I'm sorry what I'm missing from the mightly windows 8? That ugly way to show apps? Sorry not my thing
11. Shino (Posts: 159; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Bhahaha! Now PA, DO YOU understand the screaming necessity of hiring EDUCATED people? A suggestion that I make to you every single time you screw up? Please, let this be a lesson to you and your people, and instead of writing emails to me, and to other people for numerous stupid reasons, fire your "genius", who wrote the previous article about how(according to him) Nokia would consider an adoption of Android, alright?
71. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
PA was reposting a different sources' info, and are posting this as a more accurate statement. It isn't their fault.
13. andro. (Posts: 1890; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
If Nokia actually sold android handsets then they would have big sellers on their hands. If the N8 was android it would have be a huge success. Alot of people are now coming off Blackberry handsets and Nokia feature phones looking for a good top level smartphone,unfortuantely for Nokia the majority of people are turned off the windows tiles ui and as a result look elsewhere. These such people would be nokia loyal but not enough to settle for windows
73. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
The N8 wouldn't have worked on android. It couldn't handle the camera sensor. Same reason the 808 PureView stayed Symbian
14. gazmatic (Posts: 501; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
Huawei announced a monster of a phone the other day and many readers sshhaatt on it. They were not impressed.... They said to wait for the note3. Guess what? I was impressed especially since I think most Android vendors make crap phones.
my friend and I bet on completely different ecosystems and he has to admit he bought a crap phone. He bought the Droid razr m and I a shiny red Lumia 920. Crap phone. My gs3 is a crap phone. My nexus 4 is a crap phone. My favorite Android is the HTC onex+ yet it gets no love.
sadly there are many great Android vendors out there but because they are not the big 3-4 they get no love. I want a meizu phone, an oppo phone, a xiaomi phone but these phones get no love. Why should Nokia sully their reputation by getting involved with people that shun their best in preference for their favorites?
stay away google stay far. I'll quicker buy a Nokia with bb10 than key lime pie
17. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Nokia was once a major player in the cell phone industry. Despite their fall, Nokia is still mentioned often. You can't compare Nokia to the likes of Huawei, meizu, oppo or xiaomi. HTC was hot a couple years back, but they created their own fails. It's hard to rebuild reputation, it'll be a while for HTC to come back up to become a major player, despite that One X+ was a great device. HTC screwed their One X customers over by releasing One X+, they lose fan loyalty. Butterfly is a great device, but it's not being sold worldwide. Their next best bet is the M7, they need to get this right once and for all. If Nokia wants to, it could easily topple the likes of Samsung and Apple with the technology it has to offer. Nokia may be struggling, but most smartphone users knows what it could still offer, it's Nokia's fault for not targeting those potential user consumer base.
109. MeoCao (unregistered)
You misunderstand what he says, he means despite the crisis Nokia is still a power and not newcomer like some Chinese companies.
23. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Again the amount of ignorance for android is more on you...
If you hate android then why do you bought it...
Do you forget about sony....
they have come to the fourth place from 8th because of android....
There is always a room for good phones in android...if you come up with best phones..then you will get the right place...
s3 is a crap phone????
May be it's old...but it was the top dog when it released....
25. kelly911 (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
So coming to 4th sounds already good for you. Let's say the market share of first (Samsung) is 70%. 2nd is 10%. 3rd is 8%. 4th is 5%... and so on. Will you still be satisfied?
30. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Some thing is good than nothing....
What about nokia????? 10th place....
It's good to be fourth than 10th....
I'm not blaming nokia...I'm blaming wp 8....
31. drubicha (Posts: 19; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Nokia surely be in 10th place if it goes android. But Nokia is clearly 1st place in windows. Lumia series is akin to windows phone now. I had android before. Man, it's so messy out there.
107. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
I'm not saying about only android....it's whole smart phone sales.......
Sony will further improve in list with a monster xperia z.....
Pity nokia will be 10 th place with wp...
I like nokia but i hate wp...
74. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Nokia is 1st or 2nd in overall sales (final year-end figures still being calculated), just lower on smartphone sales. If they're #10 that's very impressive given the proclivity if customers to buy cheap Chinese handsets instead of a quality higher-end product.
21. Jyakotu (Posts: 812; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
You mean *their. And how? WP is still taking off and Nokia Lumia devices are often highly held in regard. Nokia would definitely be lost in the shuffle if it went the Android route. Right now, Nokia is WP King and makes headsets are that powerful, yet affordable while running smoothly without skimping on features.
32. shy2papa (Posts: 180; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
thanks for the correction, but its common sense not to put all your eggs into one basket and nokia has done that with MS windows phone, nobody will argue the Nokia with its years of experience is the best handset maker in the world but its stubbornness to adopt the fastest growing OS in the world is quite stupid and that might be its down fall, WP8 is no way close to android or even ios, but MS says its the best OS around "laughing" you dont bring a tooth pic to a missile fight between Android and iOS, just my personal opinion.
34. mgignon278 (Posts: 5; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
iPhone was once the fastest. You can't always stay at the top. Nokia was once at the top. Android will slowly decline..the moment, I will find myself laughin'
104. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
In you're dreams, not in reality. Wise up.
76. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
They may publicly have their eggs in one basket for smartphones, but they still have positive contacts with Jolla, and if WP were to fail (unlikely), the hardware they're using now could easily have android installed on it. I'm somewhat surprised there aren't a legion of XDA folk who are trying to find a way to run cyanogenmod on the 920 (to my knowledge)
20. Jyakotu (Posts: 812; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Honestly, from a business standpoint, Nokia going with Android wouldn't be a good idea for numerous reasons. Right now, in the realm of Android, Samsung is king, with HTC, LG, Motorola, and Sony trailing behind. Then you have the smaller OEMs like ZTE, Huawei, Pantech, Kyocera, and many others trying to make names for themselves, but people dismiss them because they make "cheap" handsets. Windows Phone is actually growing and gaining market share, slowly but surely. Many people see a Lumia phone as THE Windows Phone. It took awhile for Android to take off, so people need to give Windows Phone some time. I've played with a few Windows Phones and I would definitely switch because I actually like the interface and the OS is smooth like butter. Don't get me wrong, I like Android and I'm enjoying my GALAXY Nexus, but I've owned a few Nokias in my time and I love their hardware. I hope Sprint gets a Lumia or at least the Ativ from Samsung.
24. MeoCao (unregistered)
Android is big and noisy market, WP is a abandonned warehouse.
Nokia has a good product and Android is only place to go, this does not guarrantee Nokia sure success but it offers Nokia great CHANCE.
on the other hand Nokia has no chance in that empty warehouse.
36. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2346; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
mate your so one sided, you android fanboys whine about nokia going android yet crap on there efforts with the 920 etc
you cry they need to yet then say more choice is better but are still moaning everyone should go android......thats not choice
how about for once, you android fanboys stop moaning and crying and just keep to your samsung, HTC etc. samsung rules android at the moment nokia no matter what there name still holds wouldnt make a dent as the general public who make up more of the market then you fanboys would choose samsung. there the apple of the android world,
nokia has a better chance with wp8 as they are the biggest player
seriously though stop the whining, why are android fans such cry babies
105. MeoCao (unregistered)
Android does not need Nokia, it's Nokia needs Android.
I'd be glad if Nokia successful with WP or Sailfish or whatever. Because I want to see Nokia successful and not b-c of particular OS.
You WP fanboys don't care about Nokia, you care about MS and you don't care how evil MS is.
whining and moaning? Maybe, but that's Nokia and WP not Android. Android is winning and do winners ever whine?
113. drubicha (Posts: 19; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Bwahaha. Who's whining? Nokia does not need Android. It's Andorid fans dying for Nokia. Isn't it Google who is evil now? If Android is winning, it doesn't need Nokia. Why you fans not satisfied of your crappy phones? If you really care for Nokia, go buy there phones. For all I know, you only care for Android. Hypocrite! Try Nok 920, you'll be amazed to forget how boring Android is.
119. MeoCao (unregistered)
Hypocrite? I will support Nokia to use any OS if that's good for Nokia. Look what losses Nokia makes every year now.
when Nokia makes profit with WP I will buy your argument. 920 is selling DESPITE of WP, and not b-c of it.
920 has great innovation but that's nothing compared to SS, Sony, HTC... The highlight of 920 is the camera but I'm sure new Sony Xperia Z will surpass it.
But I'm not lying that I want Nokia to make Android phone, but that does not mean we NEED Nokia.
WP need Nokia, that's the point. WP is nothing w/o Nokia. A OS of single substantial OEM, supporting single chip... and don't be surprised that Nokia will abandon WP in H2 this year.
124. drubicha (Posts: 19; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Blah blah blah. Just wish that Nokia will do well with WP (that's if you really care). Stop denying that Nok's efforts running WP8 are beginning to pick up steam. The deal with China Mobile and its 700M users to subsidize Lumia 920T is a huge win already. If you don't NEED Nokia really in android, you should stop defending your hypocrisy.
131. MeoCao (unregistered)
I had high hope for WP8, but was disappointed with it, MS did very bad job. I really want WP and iOS or other OSes push Android hard b-c that will make Android better.
Nokia successful with WP, Sailfish..? why not.
I do hope Nokia do well in China, Nokia brand is strong in China and 920 is a good phone despite the poor OS. So lets see how it will turn out.
I don't defend anything, I just want the best to Nokia. And you want to tie Nokia to WP sinking ship.
132. drubicha (Posts: 19; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Poor OS? I doubt you ever use one. WP has the highest user satisfaction. Go check Amazon, AT&T, Rogers, etc website. If 920 has a bad OS, users will mention it.
133. MeoCao (unregistered)
Of course not, but I see lots of reviews.
WP has highest satisfaction? Maybe only hardcore fans are using it?
135. drubicha (Posts: 19; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Hardcore fans are droids and ish$$p who can't open their eyes in knowing there are better options out there. L920 is $200 less than iphone 5 & $100 less than GS3, yet the best phone of 2012 that just grabbed 12 media awards.
136. MeoCao (unregistered)
People often complain about defects and malfunctions. WP8 has very few phones and users so is there any surprise that there are few complaints as well?
It's great that 920 wins awards, but Nokia needs good sales more I guess, and that's just not possible with WP.
122. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
The truth is no one likes WP8 it's just another iOs .
138. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
"you cry they
need to yet
is better but
Seriously????? Do you even know what is choice????
Choice is that when nokia makes wp and android phones... Sticking with wp is not a choice...
No one cried when samsung and htc made windows phones....
You are crying that nokia should never make android phones...
Don't try to behave like a gentleman...when actually you are not...
26. jibraihimi (Posts: 482; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
So it was pure case of 'they translated it wrong'........ That means Elop is still Trojan horse for Many haters over here......
48. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Everyone hates this Eflop useless taking Nokia down the drain, he needs to be fired right now. One more chance, if WP8 fails which has, Eflop will be kicked out.
27. cat5e (Posts: 13; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
The bible says "You can't serve two masters". If you are focus and committed, you will have the glory at the end amidst trials and adversity. Nokia is just doing the right thing, by holding its ground and never let temptation by the devil dissuade promising free ice cream. In the end Nokia will see eternal glory holding windows phone with zeal.
29. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2952; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Some of you people talk like Nokia is building something behind your own backyard with your consent!
If Elop says Nokia is not adopting Android, than he has an obvious reason for that...no one knows what, but people at Nokia know.
I would love to see Android on a Nokia and have dreamt of it too...but just because of that Nokia is not going to boom up to 1st place.
Believe me, after it's all said and done, most of you will complain that Nokia's Android phone (assumption) is not good enough, and you'll get back to your old devices.
37. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2346; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
exactly, basically they just want everyone using one os, they would never go and buy it if they made one. they would criticize and ridicule it saying crap like ''samsung is the way to go'' or '' nexus is the only android phone to get'' blah blah blah
98. jroc74 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I doubt it....seeing as how many ppl raved over the G Nex and Rezound. They both sucked to me. Many ppl dont like Motorola phones. Its my fav Android manufacture. Whatever Nokia does well....they will have fans in Android land. And whatever they dont do well....they will have their haters.
One thing Nokia does well is the phone parts. THATS why I like Nokia and wouldnt mind a Nokia phone. A Nokia phone could knock Motorola out the way. I have a feeling if they went Android...they would be surprised how well they do. We wont know until they try tho. If they try and it doesnt work, no harm no foul. They coudl even set a small time frame to see if any success happens.
100. mikezl (Posts: 2; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Aren't you satisfied with your android phone already? Just try 920, you'll be amazed how better the OS is compared Android.
149. jroc74 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I tried it....just like I tried iOS and the iPhone.
I just like Android more. To me....Android is better to me because it fits ....my.....wants n needs better than the other 2. It might be better for you and folks that like WP...but not me.
We all dont have the same wanys n needs. Somehow some of my fellow Android fans have forgotten choice is a good thing.....and its never one size fits all in the tech world. And I see some WP fans can be lumped in with iPhone and Android fanboys.
Fanboyism is a disease.....seriously.
33. xtplnet (Posts: 36; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
But I don't understand why not pushing hardware for both platforms ? Nokia want to set iteslf from other hardware which they did by creating awersome apps for WP8 they can do the same for Android. I don't undustand why they even don't want to try ????
38. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2346; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
you dont understand how there business works
you all think its a simple thing, tomorrow they bring out android device everyone cheers for 2 seconds then rip it apart like fanboys do
there doing the right thing at the moment , look at the 920 excellent flagship
77. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
1: Microsoft and Nokia have a contract, where Microsoft gives Nokia millions to have WP be its only smartphone OS. Guaranteed money.
2: Nokia knows android is a crowded system, that has only recently gotten its act together in terms of a relatively uniform and stable system. If they were into ever go android, better to wait for.others to iron out the wrinkles and take hits to their reputations and Nokia come in with a near-flawless hero phone (if they ever wanted to)
3: WP is a more Nokia-ish platform, being less widespread among other OEMs, thus more unique, and gives then a fresh modern (Scandanavian, even) system to catapult them from last-decade's Symbian.
4: As HTC and Samsung have demonstrated, even having two model lines with different OSes doesn't mean both will succeed. Customers tend to buy one phone to use as long as they can. By sticking with WP, Nokia customers know what they buy will still be supported over the next few years of ownership, much like they enjoy already.
5: Samsung has android pretty well monopolized. In the minds of many consumers, there is only apple, Samsung/android, blackberry, and Nokia. By using a different OS than the others, Nokia sets itself apart nd makes itself less reliant on other systems and OEMs
6: Android companies keep getting sued. Microsoft has an agreement with applr and others to leave WP alone (which is why the Focus, Focus S, Focus 2, and Focus Flash weren't/ aren't part of any apple vs Samsung lawsuits)
7: WP has more potential in its current and future iterations, sharing its kernel with desktop Windows: this means more power, capability, and hardware evolutions are possible without a major (and expensive) overhaul. Android has only a generation or two before it needs to be revamped (and taken off the Java virtual machine) to stay relevant without going overboard with hardware. Much like there's only so much that can be done with a carbureted engine, it needs to be updated and revamped to stay up to date. Nokia knew this and knew that Microsoft was doing more to future-proof its OS for the next half-decade or longer.
140. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Don't need to explain this much...
Only one reason...Nokia's CEO elop is ex-MS employee and he hates linux....
That's the only reason..
143. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2952; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Really??? Is that the reason?
After all the right reasons -box- gives, you still ignore?
How more ignorant can you get?
And you come to his thread and say he don't need to explain that much? Then why are you not understanding the simple things told before you?? Boy, people are hard to deal with.
By the way, was Elop an acquaintance of yours that you know so much of him?
146. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
His reasons are stale...
Nothing will happen to nokia if they released a android phone...
35. MartyK (Posts: 651; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Let me translate Mr Elop's answer for you guys:
Ha!, we like being at the bottom in the cell phone world; and hopefully BB will move past us soon to take over #3", Thank you.
39. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2346; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
and not a laugh could be heard..............so unfunny and complete bs kid
40. sandralim (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
Let me translate Elop's reply to you:
Ha! In your dreams fanboi. Just dream from crap android's world.
No thank you.
47. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Don't ignore reality it's the truth Nokias days are gone and done and dusted, ex MS employe would never merge thro open OS, once Nokia the Symbian has turned to closed OS a lot of pisset of customers have migrated to Android. Nokia and .BB are dieting from people's heart.
41. duwiegeneral (Posts: 48; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
if u android lovers love nokia decision in the sense of hardware then u should love the idea of switching and get use to the os decision also bcuz the design is not just about hardware its also the os..
50. Whateverman (Posts: 3064; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I would love to see an Android based Nokia device. What I don't get is why so many WP and anti-Android feel so threatened by it. If it doesn't happen, we'll have plenty of other devices to fill the void...Nokia's loss. But you guys get really shook when you hear the words "Nokia" and "Android" mentioned in the same sentence.