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Nokia chief executive says Google is making Android more closed

0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 10:04 posted on

Nokia’s chief executive Stephen Elop, an ex Microsoft employee, tied Nokia exclusively with Windows Phone and while the Finns have finally gotten out of the red for the first time this Holiday quarter…

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posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:00 2

34. protozeloz (Posts: 5372; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


He talks about android fragmentation and yet they have windows phone 7.5 7.8 and 8 on their smartphones.... Sorrry but Microsoft CEO... Woops I mean Nokia CEO should come up with better arguments than this

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:15 2

35. dorianb (Posts: 370; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Haters gonna hate!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:33 4

41. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


Adroid gona rock, as it always did!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:12 3

55. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


well it never always di , lets be real for once

at the start android was terrible, only now has it become a great os

so why cant you extreme fans just give wp8 a chance to mature

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:17 3

61. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


I have nothing against WP. I love Adroid for what it can do. It fits perfectly into my life style and WP or iOS doesnt.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:59 2

67. joey_sfb (Posts: 2780; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Why can't microsoft give a chance to linux to mature??

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 18:39 2

69. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


When the Droid 1 launched...Android was better. That was 2.1.

2.2, 2.3..3....4....it got better each time. it was good at 2.1 it didnt just now become great.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:57

82. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I loved my cappy at 2.1...now it is at 4.2.1., even better

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:22 1

36. lallolu (Posts: 230; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)


Maybe he was referring to the pricing benchmark that Google has made with the new sets of nexus devices which is making Nokia scared of how much profit they can make selling android phones.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:59 2

39. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


I would definitely consider buying a Nokia Android phone. Their build quality is stellar. Hardware is all there. I just can't get over the software.

For $500 or so unlocked (8GB with microSD), it might be worth it over a Nexus 4 if it has stock Android. If I recall correctly, there's a Lumia selling for something like $350. Not Lumia 920-level, but half-decent. They should be able to sell a flagship at $500.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:21 1

46. 14545 (Posts: 1101; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I agree 100%. I would definitely pay 500 for a flagship Nokia with android. Their hardware is practically indestructible.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:51 2

37. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Because Windows Phone is ever so open.

That SDK policy has been in place for a while. It's a good policy. I love free software, but having multiple SDKs going around would be a huge problem. There needs to be a balance between consistency and openness, and I think Android is right where it needs to be.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:43 1

42. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Ubuntu is coming soon ... and i am sure M$ and Apple would be first to get after them too. Profits are due to sales or due to adjustment in books?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:35 4

51. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Nokia is already earning a profit with WP8, and their sales are only going to increase during the coming year. Also, Android is a bastion of viri, and inherently insecure. Nokia wants to be an office worthy phone, not some habor for excessive malware. It doesn't fit their image to bother with Android, and Elop's comments are dead on accurate about fragmentation issues for the platform.

All you WP8 haters can suck on this ---

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:00

54. 14545 (Posts: 1101; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Yes, clearly this is an UNemotional response.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:48 7

57. Omar-BHR95 (Posts: 184; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)


ppl are saying hes destroying nokia , but hes actually curing nokia , just look at the sales of nokia lumia devices ITS GROWING QUARTER AFTER QUARTER .

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:56

81. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


That is good news.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:17

62. Loubielou (Posts: 206; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


How can a Chairman that as made such a Popular name an now made them Struggle make such stupid comments,He an Microsoft are a Group trying to compete with Apple an Android an are miles behind,Windows 8 as not been succesful for Nokia an Microsoft ,so what will they do when the release of the Samsung Galaxy S4 an the Sales are falling more,because they make phones to Restricted,Shut Up Elop We Want You Out at Nokia

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:25 1

64. papss (unregistered)


Whether any of you android guys like it or not there won't be a Nokia android phone for a very long time if at all AND they are now profitable which I'm pretty sure you all said wasn't going to happen.. It's not doom and gloom like you all want to believe.. We have so many business geniuses here..

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:34 1

71. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


I agree to Elop right now. it will better don't do dog fight with android vendors. now image windows phone stick on nokia. hope nokia with wp be a new pilar of smartphone with apple and samsung(android)

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:06 3

74. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


hahah if someone tell fandroids the truth they close their eyes and pretend they haven't read / seen anything then post blindly fanatic defence comments
its true fandroids worst fans out there

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:54

79. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Huh, you call us worst and yet you write your comment..making you awesome and intelligent? Nope.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:49

75. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


PA, why are you trying to link Android with Nokia at the end of your comment!? f**king move on!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:53

76. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


My God! There's alot of sick, psycho minded, bitter, Android and the like folks in this site!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:54

78. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


yeah, look in the mirror for what you said and repeat it 3X.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:53

77. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Wow, this guy should focus on his own business, as ANDROID is doing just fine...the amount of fragmentation has decreased so much in the last year, thanks to JB. The only real differences/issues are dealing with apps that the developer makes for the phone, but then will not be compatible with the tablet.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:56

80. networkdood (Posts: 6263; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Elop secretly still works for MS, and this is just a PR move on what he said. If Nokia does not want to make an ANDROID phone, then so be it. I may one day purchase a WINDOWS phone from NOKIA. Just depends on what they have.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:58

83. thunderbolt (Posts: 76; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)


He should be talking about his own underpants than trying to smell someone else's. Typical MS Proxy....

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 21:58

84. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


@networkdude ...i surely don't need to look in the mirror. I just read these sick same ole posts from you and the like. Nonstop grudge, hate, and what not. Nokia this, Nokia that. Wp this, wp that. Nokia should do this do that. And for you and PA, its more than three times. I don't often come to this fanroid site but when I do, this is all I see.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 23:41

85. jameshoe (unregistered)


Android Jelly Bean + PureView tech + PureMotion display + Nokia classic body design + Nokia collections = World's Best Smartphone

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 00:21

86. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Grapes could never be more sour with this guy, Android is the #1 OS on mobile devices in the world...this guys talking about Android going to get more fragmented and closed...wtf? How does that even make sense, well I guess in his world it does. Google set stipulations for OEM to not changing Android thus creating fragmented OS(which makes damn sense, unless you want forty different versions of Android).
This in no way makes android closed, it just narrows down the fragmentation to only versions of Android in use that way Google can ensure that the eco-system isn't a giant confused mess of apps that won't work on similar phones running altered versions of android. Sorry but even in a free system you still have to set guidelines or else every tom, d**k and Steven will make up their own things and then you have customers complaining to Google about this and that when it's the OEM who screwed up.
You can dress up Android however you want, but the core of Android OS must remain true to it's version.
Elop should know about closed systems, WP8 is just that a completely closed system which every OEM phone looks exactly alike, what sort of utilitarian OS is this. How do you differentiate?!? They all look exactly alike, and shaped pretty much identical to one another, so only thing to sell the phone is, well this one has a great camera :-D. This one has a 720p screen, and this one has, WP8 and coming soon sync with Live right from your device, yes!
Nokia makes great devices but these guys had to sell their own bloody house in their home country, what in the hell kind of state is that to be in? Elop shouldn't be wasting words talking about Android as it just comes across as him really being jealous of their popularity and speed of maturity, basically a ..... Yeah you can fill in the blanks on that one.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 02:13

87. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


M$ employs proxies to attack competitors. Old trick.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 08:22

90. nvrhde (Posts: 69; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)


Dont care any more.
Experia Z , on the way.

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