Nokia and WP7 see signs of light in European Lumia sales
0. phoneArena posted on 22 Feb 2012, 15:27
Amid mixed signals, Nokia and Windows Phone may find signs hope in Europe that sales of the Lumia will help grow their vaunted "third platform"...
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1. andro. posted on 22 Feb 2012, 15:56 3 10
Well i can say for a working fact that these sales reports are complete made up
2. Henrik posted on 22 Feb 2012, 16:05 12 1
Ok, thanks for the facts, we'll take your word for it. Random anonymous people on the internet are always reliable.
3. andro. posted on 22 Feb 2012, 16:10 4 5
Well seeing as i work in the mobile industry in Europe and i see many of the shops have piles of unsold lumia stock on stock inventory then ya take my word for it. I find the European sales claims puzzling
5. m.garz posted on 22 Feb 2012, 16:25 9 1
so you're more reliable? lol
9. rafael.roque posted on 22 Feb 2012, 19:06 2 2
All these reports coincidently started buzzing right after Microsoft bought out (I mean "partnered with" ;-) Nokia, which undoubtedly leads me to believe that they're all paid off or fabricated in order to actually create excitement around their otherwise failing WP7 OS. That is not to say that WP7 is destined to fail, but without Microsoft Buying out Nokia's support; things would be looking a lot grimmer right now for Microsoft's OS adoptation.
ANYWAY to my point, yes I do think some of these reports are questionable at best. The goal of the marketing tactic is to self fullfill by creating buzz around the "imminent" success of WP7. Interestingly enough, they used the same tactic to discredit Symbian and Meego and thus affected the growth and adoptation in the user community of Nokia.
11. rafael.roque posted on 22 Feb 2012, 19:37 1 0
Here's another finding I found relating to the sales of Nokia Lumia 800 sales in the UK:
"according to estimates reported in the New York Times, the Lumia 800 drove Windows Phone's market share up from 0.4 to 2.2 percent in London, and the phone has enjoyed similar success in Austria and Germany."
NOW here's the obvious factor that apperantly "could have" helped the increased sales:
"The Times report points out that the Lumia 800 may have enjoyed some extra success due to the free Xbox 360 offered with every new two-year contract."
REALLY?!? I would of bought ANY WP7 phone if you were giving away an Xbox 360 with it! It's only common sense that bundled incentives and great gifts will help any product's sellthrough regardless of it's popularity or initial customer reception.
13. Lucas777 posted on 22 Feb 2012, 21:26 1 1
uh have u ever tried wp7? or are u just saying it doesnt get good customer satisfaction-- because its a well known fact wp7 people love their phones…
also the "partnering with nokia" was kind of coincidental with the launch of windows phones in general… so yes.. they do have a "coincidental" effect…
and i dont thin every single wp7 phone was sold with an xbox.. yes it was a promotion for a while, but wp7 has a chance to seriously become the third ecosystem… with microsofts support, it must gain the us market and then beat out competitors like bada globally
4. snowgator posted on 22 Feb 2012, 16:15 2 2
Nokia will be fine, and WP is going to be a success. Quality will see it's way to a market. It may actual end up being and more successful quicker in other parts of the world due to GSM being so dominate (Sprint and Verizon are not interested in WP, so CDMA devices are not a available and those sales are lost) and Nokia having Such a strong name. But Microsoft will keep working and improving it. I am disappointed that the current crop of AT&T devices didn't sell better. A little more momentum would be nice.
6. thatdude1 posted on 22 Feb 2012, 16:32 4 0
"Nokia hasn't released a Lumia for the US yet of course...."
This statement is incorrect. Nokia HAS released a Lumia for the United States, and it's called the Lumia 710 for t-mobile.
7. nb2six posted on 22 Feb 2012, 17:50 0 0
and it's the phone all t-mobile sales reps are trying to force onto people. I see alot of frustration and turnoffs towards the handsets just because of poor salesmanship. There is a area of consumers that would greatly benefit from the simplicity of WP. If the os can hold on for a few more years and grow from its infancy it could def become a major player in the smartphone world
8. thephoneguy92 posted on 22 Feb 2012, 18:39 0 0
WP will undoubtledly make it's way into the pack alongside Android and iOS. It's a matter of if, more so over when.
10. 7thspaceman posted on 22 Feb 2012, 19:12 0 0
Microsoft must continue to improve and support their smart phone products to have some impact in the smart phone business. so far they are doing that . the next thing they have to do is advertise advertise and advertise to let People know that they have good products to sell. my worry now is the quality of the Windows Tango class cheaper windows smart phones good enough to be a product for People to use and buy. if tango smart phones work well then Microsoft smart phones from low end to high end will keep Microsoft in the game and they will gain traction and be something people will buy because they know that they work well. and that the the key Microsoft smart phones must work well.
12. DontHateOnS60 posted on 22 Feb 2012, 20:45 0 0
Dual core and memory options are the only things really holding them back. If they had a phone with 1080 video playback and recording, and 32/64GB phone options, things would look brighter for them. They'd at least somewhat be on par with the competition in that sense, and they'd be able to drive sales by bringing over those already on Android and iOS. As it stands, WP is still an entry level smartphone OS for consumers just getting into the game, and it's very difficult to fight Apple in that game. Apollo can't come fast enough for them.
14. Lucas777 posted on 22 Feb 2012, 21:27 2 0
i agree tat apollo cant come fast enough, but wp7 really doesnt need dual core to be on par with android (neither does ios really-- its more for show). the major thing holding wp7 back is the screen resolution and the app support
17. haseebzahid posted on 22 Feb 2012, 23:26 0 0
no its actullay something more critical that WP7 dev forgot to add most basic features in first versions thats why its not a favoured phone by bussiness users although it will best suit them if the gaps in it are filled
15. DechyX posted on 22 Feb 2012, 22:28 0 0
I'm rooting for WP7, I switched from my beloved Atrix to a Focus one day... and I have yet to switch back. If I would have switched to an Android phone that was released around the same time as the Focus, I'd feel like I'd have a dated device. With the Focus I still feel like I'm on the curve and not behind it... but if they release an Atrix 3...
16. haseebzahid posted on 22 Feb 2012, 23:24 0 0
well i would say its not new that people reject the new OS that is because it is new same was going on with Android in start and IOS but they managed. so WP7 can also make a difference here but that cant happen over night.
18. Bluesky02 posted on 23 Feb 2012, 02:23 0 0
It is going to do better. The good thing is that they are not rushing on software and hardware.
19. lubba posted on 23 Feb 2012, 03:50 0 0
I agree, these two new Nokia devices lumia 710 and 900 will not make a dent in us. Here's the problem, too much stress on OS and not enough Nokia. There's a popularity with Nokia and that needs to be stressed. Just like the over rated iPhone.
20. Karan_Malhotra posted on 23 Feb 2012, 06:14 0 0
If ms wud have released wp7.5 mango at the time when android was on eclair or froyo...the scenario wud have been different...
