Nokia World: what to expect from Nokia's biggest event
0. phoneArena 22 Oct 2013, 01:31 posted on
Nokia World is coming up and expectations are sky high as all rumors agree that Nokia is preparing to unveil an onslaught of devices…
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1. chunky1x (Posts: 254; Member since: 28 Mar 2010)
I wish that the Lumia 1020 had these specs and an Android OS, and it will become God of smartphones.
3. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Wow really? I can't believe you guys are still whining about that! If you really cared about Nokia, then make the #switch to WP. I know it sounds ad-sy, but still... M$ bought Nokia, that's that. Just switch to WP already...
4. chunky1x (Posts: 254; Member since: 28 Mar 2010)
No. WP is still in too early to be consider as real iOS and Android contender. There will be a time that it will reach that status(maybe in 3 years) but in this generation, it is not yet there yet.
8. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Strictly speaking about apps, then yes. Apps are all that WP need. Otherwise, WP is on par with iOS and Android in all other respects. I won't start comparison thread here, but I know a lot of people who switched to WP because at the end of the day... who needs more apps than they can count when they already got all bases covered. And, I, for one, switched to WP, ain't regretting it, loving my Lumia 920.
10. wgaurav (Posts: 22; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)
I had used 900 and it did not have a good notification center, does the new OS has one? And also app for google music?
15. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Oh really? WP lacks soo many features in comparison to android or IOS. Does WP have screen orientation lock, or can you change appearance of your OS, no, you can´t even change appearance of your icons, you are basically stuck with metro. And here is the beauty of Android, every phone can look differently, you can customize it to a deep level such as changing color of statusbar or make it look like WP or whatever you want, meanwhile in WP you are stuck with metro, I for one would get bored with it in a few months, but that is just me. But basically there is almost no freedom in that OS, almost like IOS but you can jailbrake it and so it becames awesome. Okay sure maybe you guys don´t care for customizability like me but you have to admit that WP is lacking extremely lots of features like for example : having full screen in the internet browser, or playing flac or mkv (that is unacceptable), gestures, setting brightness from statusbar, customize the sound when you turn off the phone, manage the screen (colours and the like) and so on. From those who created Windows to create this is just a pain to see. Windows is just great and so full of customizability and than comes WP which feels like prison.
21. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Pfffttt... we've all heard that one before. That's all you got? Android, 'customizability,' blah blah blah. Dude, you speak as if we have no idea Android is. LOL in fact, pretty much everything you've said applies to iOS as well. According to your logic, WP > iOS and I agree with you. But you're just being paranoid... If Android has so many advantages over WP why do you think it's picking up traction and people are adopting the OS? Because it's different. That's something you can't say when speaking of Android. Just like a Toyota stays a Toyota. Nobody cares how versatile and flexible it is. It all comes down to differentiation. An Android stays an Android. A Toyota stays a Toyota. I guess your argument is better suited towards Apple fanboys. They, at least, won't have grounds for argument. Besides, if you read my previous post, I clearly said I didn't want to start a comparison thread here, so you're pretty much adding to the popularity of this article whether you like it or not because you really went off topic.
22. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
No, I understand why you might like it. I myself do not see any point in WP (except MS wanting more money :)) but you can go enjoy your WP, I have nothing against WP or IOS as long as someone starts telling me that it is better. I mean on the paper android is much better, but I understand why you might want have something different, something that stands out. By the way you could just buy an android device and install WP launcher :). And it was you who began to write off topic with this statement ''Otherwise, WP is on par with iOS and Android in all other respects'', I was just adding to that.
But you must admit that the image of lumia 1520 is really ugly, the tiles look so very disorganized and those capacitive buttons are so close to each other that it is ugly. I hope that it is just a fake.
24. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
I never said it was better in the first place; I simply agreed to your statement about it being better than iOS. On par is a good way to describe WP's current position as a contender to iOS and Android, as I so clearly addressed the aforementioned uneducated statement.
And your opinion about the Lumia 1520 is... *yawn* an opinion, and yes, the capacitive do look a little awkward. :)
25. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
LOL, I was being really sarcastic in my previous comment, but you're right about the Lumia 1520 xD
59. saffant (Posts: 228; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)
Get a notification centre first then we can talk about WP being a "contender" lmao.
No back button on browser/ lack of flash/ lack of a proper instagram app and functioning YouTube app are some of the other issues.
Not to mention the boring metro UI.
Also, where's swype? What are we in 2010?
27. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Why are you so stuck on the fact that changing background colors, and images, is what makes a smartphone great.. You are extremely petty, and immature.. That's your only complaint❔ How old are you like 13❔... If you ever used WP you would see that it is actually the MOST customizable start screen their is.. Look up some screen shots online.. No two look the same.. While you're worrying about changing images in the background WP users are putting images, and useful information in the FOREGROUND❕ Move on ❗
53. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1008; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
just saying you're biased towards WP if you wanna make an argument don't be biased
1. behind dem sexy life tiles WP isn't much. i don't care how much you argue Microsoft did a pretty good job hiding the OS behind these tiles
2. you buy the phone use the tiles and then what "nothing"
hopefully they will change that in the near future with 8.1 and other that may follow
3. take nokia out of the picture and tell me what features WP has over any other OS
4. you called someone immature due to them preferring something else are you 13 ;)
34. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Yall whine about, the dumbest shyt.. just make the #switch and get it over with already :-)
16. bwhiting (Posts: 173; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)
agreed...I have a WP and the apps are small but specs are good for what you need it to do. Fast, not much lag on the device, and apps are slowly growing due to people actually see it is a great device and OS
31. -box- (Posts: 3858; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
The app argument is essentially dead. Why? Because there are so many apps that are just copies or clones of other apps, or just mobile-friendly versions of websites, rather than using the browser, which requires exiting one app, switching to another, and waiting for the new app to boot. Yes, there are some advantages to some apps (e.g. using the phone's camera to take a picture of a check to deposit into a banking account, for instance), but websites are becoming more and more smartphone-friendly, and using Internet Explorer on a Windows Phone is very similar to using it on a touchscreen computer, so less of a need for so many website-specific apps. I shouldn't need an app to check the local news, I can just go to the news page's website, while browsing other sites or being able to multitask to a game or something. The most popular apps all get to the main three mobile OSes, usually around the same time, and the ones that don't usually are just fad apps that not many folks actually use (I know it's popular, but I don't know anyone personally who used Instagram for more than a day, for instance).
11. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Er, my thing with WP is that the focus is too US centric IMO. And PA, why would Nokia announce a Verizon exclusive phone in a global event?
32. -box- (Posts: 3858; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
...too US-centric? You saw the article about how WP is the 2nd-most popular smartphone OS in a few countries outside of the US a few days ago, and rapidly growing, I'm guessing.
26. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Why would you think that❔ Have you used WP for more than 5min❔... Don't listen to the immature crap people say on PA... You should be smarter than that..
23. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Now that Microsoft bough them the only hope is Newkia.
36. akki20892 (Posts: 3618; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Who knows future, Nokia can bring android in future.
56. rmadhu4bibo (Posts: 1; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Another leaked beautiful cyan Lumia1520 see here imgdino.com/viewer.php?file=38424272699023600816.jpg
2. rms.max (Posts: 82; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
I Don't want to see ELOp at this event. ELOP=a**hole of the era..
5. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Dude, lol still hating on Elop? M$ bought Nokia; it was expected all along. Although Elop might have looked bad, he successfully navigated the ship to safety. Think about it. Elop's move WAS the best decision for Nokia. If Nokia went the Android way (as late as it was in the game), do you really think someone would have saved it? It would have been in the same boat as HTC and all the other OEMs that face tough competition from Samsung on ITS home turf i.e. Android because sadly, Samsung = Android. You see, now HTC is losing big time, it's really sad but true. I hope M$ buys HTC as well because HTC is a great company; I don't want to see it go the BB way. People say RIP Nokia, but can they say RIP M$? No, so Nokia is here to stay. Elop IS the reason Nokia survives today. With M$, Nokia will survive, instead of just dying like BB.
20. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1768; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I think most people wanting a Nokia on android is (and I agree with them on this) that their reputation for building strong devices would have made them a serious contender for the #1 android oem. I know I would've given them my business. But to say that if you really want a Nokia so bad you should switch to windows is not being realistic. I used to be very pro windows, but after the direction they're taking with windows 8 & windows phone, now not so much. While I agree that having a unified system makes sense, their execution in my opinion is poor. I don't want my desktop dumbed down so it'll work like my phone or tablet. Otherwise, why wouldn't I just get a tablet and call it a day. Between the Metro interface and the desktop on windows 8, the same programs work differently. The desktop can stream video from anywhere but can't output it over the hdmi port. The Metro interface can output over the hdmi, but can't stream video from a lot of sites. My Vista machine can stream and output any video. So while it'd be nice to have a better built device, it's the experience you're going to be dealing with the most, and for some like me it's not what we need.
What I don't understand is why they couldn't have done both. Samsung, HTC, & (for tablets) Asus do it. Nokia was even testing android on their hardware, so they were considering it. I honestly believe that if they had done both (or even just android) that they would be the top android oem, and that's a lot of revenue to throw away.
37. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1768; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I was replying to Dastrix's comment that if people really want a Nokia phone, they should "just switch", and why that doesn't work for some people. Every persons tastes are different from the next. Each OS works for certain people. The OSs that don't go away. I am not saying that everyone should switch to android, far from it. But he seemed to think that switching to WP would solve their problems. While it would solve the hardware issue, the OS may not be to their liking. It's not a knock on WP to say that it isn't for everyone, it's a fact of life that we all have different needs and tastes.
What I wonder is why you are so quick to shove everyone else's opinions under the rug, but yet you expect others to listen to yours. It works both ways, you have to be willing to listen and consider other's opinions if you want the same in return.
45. Dastrix (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
I completely agree with everything you said mate. I also don't understand why Nokia didn't go with the dual OS strategy. At least, they could've tried. Maybe it was part of the M$ deal that Nokia adopt only WP, who knows, but I also think it would've worked for them. I really hope to see dual booting on phones soon! That would be amazing!
47. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1768; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
As I recall, that was one of the provisions of the deal between the two when MS started giving them money, that they be exclusive with WP. I have to wonder with them testing out android on their devices recently if the agreement wasn't reaching the end of the contract. Probably never know.
50. StreetNerd (Posts: 719; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Nokia + andoird = #1 contender? hmmm it could also be the next HTC... a sinking ship.
Nokia may have good build quality but they cant compete with the vertical integrated Samsung, look at HTC
51. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1768; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
That very well could've happened, but while HTC is well known, they don't have quite the global recognition as Nokia. If nothing else look at the breakdown in WP. Nokia has around 80% of the total phones running WP, the rest is divided between Samsung & HTC. So there very well could've been a similar result if they went android.
60. StreetNerd (Posts: 719; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Nokia + android = Next HTC
Great hardware but losing to king Samsung(vertically intergrated, low pricepoints for more!)
13. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
he apperently saved the jobs of thousands at the moment by switching to MS although many already lost their nokia job last year in downsizing so in future i dont think this is gonna happen to rest of the crew
6. Mube007 (Posts: 108; Member since: 24 Sep 2013)
plz 5 inch full hd screen,snapdragon 800,micro sd card upto 64 gb,minimun bezel,3000 mah removeable battery
52. Credo (Posts: 695; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
You forgot Cyan colors and built in wireless charging mate
7. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
bunch of new phones , tablet and phablet all we will see, I think
9. morozsean (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)
I won't be surprised at Nokia events anymore since Microsoft has bought the company..
12. freebee269 (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i'm getting the nokia 1520 because this may very well be the last phone/phablet with nokia's name on it. so it will be a top end device plus also a collectors item.
38. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 116; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)
just w8 2yrs and 3months , nokia can make again new phones using their own brand.
54. Beijendorf (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Nokia is expected to release their last devices early 2014 actually, including a 5.2-5.5 inch smartphone with a plenoptic camera. So no, this won't be the last chance to have Nokia surprise us with amazing gadgets.
14. Shenoy (Posts: 22; Member since: 16 Jun 2013)
This is not the last phone from NOKIA...there's still yet to come before Microsoft takes over...Yet there are 3 more code names of Nokia that have not been out...one off the phones will be an aluminium phablet (With a 41 megapixel camera, full HD screen) having the code name 'Rivendell'..There are also 2 more code names Orion and Shorty..so we still have a lot more to come...m just waiting for the Aluminium phablet...thats gonna be the last phone from NOKIA.
30. Kishin (Posts: 631; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Guys stop with the Android customization Android has been around for years and i think everyone know what it is. so stop saying how great android is.This is WP article--Deal with it skip to the next article if there is nothing to comment on WP
33. -box- (Posts: 3858; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
If the android fangirls wanted customization so badly, they would have supported Symbian more strongly. Still more capable than android, even for being a dead OS.
42. chandancherry (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Jun 2013)
This will be the last shot.
Hope it does well enough to be remembered for years.
All the Best!
43. chandancherry (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Jun 2013)
The 2520 tablet is looking stunning.
Love this design.
55. Beijendorf (Posts: 324; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
It's a concept called "Nokia 1 Tablet". So basically, PhoneArena took a completely unrelated picture, and posted specs that don't go hand-in-hand with all the 1080p-screen leaks we've seen and heard about the 2520.
This article is a sham.
57. johnhelix (Posts: 3; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)
when all this device release in the philippines???? bcoz i want to buy the asha 502 or 503.....
58. pongkie (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
that evleaks guy seams to be working at nokia's marketing team