Nokia N9: A savior or delusion
0. phoneArena 21 Jun 2011, 08:47 posted on
So, Nokia finally announced its MeeGo-powered N9 and all of a sudden we're getting all the more excited about the phone, the OS and the company's future as a whole. After today's announcement, we don't doubt that many have already gotten their hopes high ...
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1. android_hitman (unregistered)
it's nice indeed, but will i buy it? don't know for sure.. the apps are keeping me tied to android and especially the buyed apps ..
10. Mat4Maemo (unregistered)
I wander what Nokia is thinking: are they going to produce three high end device a year with three operating systems: MeeGo, WP7 and symbian or 40 E-series?? Besides, N9 spects are not realy competetive with todays market...
28. snuxoll (unregistered)
Nokia has already made their platform strategy clear. Symbian handsets will continue to be released for quite some time, however they have made it abundantly clear Windows Phone 7 is their way forward (for better or for worse, which sucks because MeeGo looks awesome) for their smartphone platform. S40 has always been for low to mid range feature phones, a market Nokia still capitalizes on and it will be going nowhere.
43. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
i think it is the right decision to keep wp7 for their super high end, this as a side project, and symbian as low end... but, wp7 is the better option for them as they wont have to spened large amounts of mony on developing it, and they will be the main supplier...
54. ryk (unregistered)
It is important to understand that just a flashy UI doesn't make an OS or a smart phone. Its the ecosystem. And the most important thig that Meego, Maemo or even symbian lacks is a proper marketplace / app store. To setup an app store and expect developers register their apps there in a short time is near impossible. Win Phone7 seemed easier as it provides a platform whose development is the headache of another company which by the way is a software powerhouse.
59. Jeromeo (Posts: 135; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)
I was foolish to buy a N900 out of shock and awe at something 'new & different'. Nokia will NOT provide updates, future support, repair support, or anything else 1 year past date of release. Android devices get OTA updates constantly, only the N8 gets few and far between updates.
I should have learned when I bought the N93. The N95 was a far better seller, so Nokia abandoned many other relative N-Series devices and only focused on support for the most popular device.
Do not make the mistake I made by sinking $650 into something that Nokia would soon abandon.
2. and1one66 (unregistered)
Why is it always that this site makes Nokia just negative? I mean, can't you give them some enough time to show what they've got? This site always in favor of Android and most of the time iOS, my goodness, are you really professionals? Do you think this kind of question will make consumers decide what to buy and what not to buy? Please, for the love of God, be fair enough for all cellular phone manufacturers and its OSes!
15. jthiagesan (Posts: 104; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
yes you are correct, they just mention the cons of nokia mobiles and they rise market for android and ios.
37. downphoenix (Posts: 2971; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
They just spread the truth. Nokia hasnt been relavent in the cellphone world for about 3 years. If it wasnt for their extremely strong support in 3rd world countries to where they are basically the go to phone brand, they would be in the same position as RIM. Its always nice to see a new OS but it looks like its a little too late for it to be good.
45. NT (unregistered)
you forgot to say ..in the USA .. Nokia is pretty much still relevant in the rest of the world. I happen to be away from the USA for 3 years now. Yes I use android but Nokia still sells with the other people here.
55. ryk (unregistered)
Thats right. Nokia make sturdy and usable phones. Agree they no longer create a stir in the market like for eg. an N95 or N70 but their phones are reliable. If every thing around you falls apart you know you will have a functional phone, cause its a Nokia. They know how to make phone.
58. Diego! (Posts: 545; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
There is no third world you mother F face!
I hate when people say that.
Anyway, Nokia N9 looks awesome! I love it. Hopefully it will get released soon worldwide. :)
3. phbelov (Posts: 124; Member since: 25 Mar 2011)
After I read some of the Eldar Murtazin's tweets, I think that the Nokia N9 won't be a savior for the company...
46. NT (unregistered)
Eldar bashes everything that is not Samsung. People say he hates Nokia and maybe that's true but he pretty much hates others too like LG.
4. 3gs (unregistered)
i dont get it when phone specialist like this sites write such articles. we all know single core or duo core doesnt matter if its not well implimented.iphones dont run a duo core processor yet they out perform most android phones out there with no lagg and ease of userbility. am strongly looking forward to a success story from this meego device and please phonearena there wasnt any lagg or so in the video. atleast thats what i see.Goodluck nokia
5. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Nokia, 2 years too late.
How long did they work on the N9? Concept to selling floor needs to be under 9 months to even compete in today's markets.
6. 3gs (unregistered)
and less i forget, hate it or luv it. this is the most beautiful touchscreen phone i av seen so far.
56. ryk (unregistered)
I would have third-ed that but I guess there are some phones from Samsung (Omnia7, Wave), HTC (Diamond2, Legend), LG Viewty Smart, even Nokia's C6-01. And yes I love the design of HTC Flyer too.
7. Xpple (unregistered)
The UI looks as thought it is uber simple and I think many people will like that. Really, three different screens that organize basically everything you do. That's simple to understand. So, you have the great multitasking of WebOS, with the simple icon app launcher of iOS with a dedicated section for messaging.
In other words, they have iOS cover with great multitasking ;)
The real question is, how does it actually perform? Will the battery die as fast as an Android or iPhone? Will it be smooth? Apps? Well, they'll most likely use Android apps along with their own so they will have enough.
8. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Will the screen scratch?
What's the battery life?
Does it do flash during browsing?
How is signal reception?
Does the GPS work effectively?
42. Charlie (unregistered)
Its gorilla glass so not unless you have diamonds in your pocket.
its got a larger battery than the N8 so at least a day's worth
It supports HTML5 heavily, so flash is probably 50/50
Its a nokia, signal will be fine.
Again, Nokia, GPS should work fine.
Why do people want HDMI on phones, i'll never understand.
tethering is supported, free? depends on carrier doesn't it?
9. bluechrism (unregistered)
One or two quick things:
"One thing we should all be thankful to MeeGo for is that it finally brought Nokia out of the 360x640 world. The N9 will sport a contemporary resolution of 480x854 pixels"Check the E90 communicator, and the N900 out, plus the E6 to some extend.
"Nokia has been opting for AMOLED tech in its high-end smartphones ever since the N8"
Did the N95 have one? I know my N85 did so at least since then
There are a couple of things to hope for and a couple of points that might detract from it. On the plus side are Qt apps which means it should be easy for developers of apps for N900 and Symbain to have their apps also run on the N9. This willl bring a longer life to the device and certainly make it more appealing then N900.
ON the down side, no widgets, minnimal landscape support and has anyone see a landscape qwerty on a screenshot/demo video yet? In many ways this is the anti-n900 which was landscape only with a widget based set of home screens and a hardware keyboard, so as the N900 successor, perhaps N900 users will think twice about upgrading - any idea if X-Terminal is an app?
The biggets X factor in this is nokia's response to sales. If sales are strong, will they release future devices with this OS (or an evolution of it)? Perhaps even if it's only 1 per year. A slab version of N900 with capacitive screen would have been an excellent addition to their line up and seen Meamo have much more success. I hope, if the N9 is well received and sells well, they release follow up devices. Windows Phone will be their primary smartphone OS of course, and launching one MeeGo based device/year wouldn't change that.
11. Thomas Verbraken (unregistered)
If the browser has Flash, the app store is as good as (or better) than with Symbian, de camera is as good as (or better) than Nokia N8, than I will surely buy it...
Waiting for first reviews...
12. soo (unregistered)
Carl Zeiss 8mp is good but without shutter key for camera ~.~
i have to reconsider...
13. hepresearch (unregistered)
Nokia N9-01? Cool idea and implementation, but hardware is a little behind the ball... meh...
14. PhoneLuver (Posts: 480; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)
I am impressed. But why did they have to make it look like Symbian? It just doesn't scream quality software.. (Even though it appears to be..)
17. mado (unregistered)
no other phones can compare iPhone..............
Nokia is wasting his time and money...........
29. digitaljedi (unregistered)
mado, you obviously don"t know what the hell you're talking about. There are about 2 dozen phones on the market that far outshine the iBrick. get a life dude!
35. derp (unregistered)
um, no there really isnt.
49. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Unfortunately for you, the sales results disagree with you, because the iphone just keeps on getiing bigger and bigger. Even those who hated it, not embrace the iphone :)
I can't say the same for this device. It's not even out yet, yet you're already acting like it sold 5 million units, hahahaha
18. domepro (unregistered)
the best article about n9 yet. it deserves all the praise it is getting, if we judge it from the currently available data.
but, i completely agree, it will all depend how fast nokia ships this phone out in the public. it can't be called high end at the moment, in more than 2 months it's specs will be outdated compared to the plethora of phones with bigger screens, more ram, better processing power etc.
nokia needs to ship this fast if they want to take a piece of the market, it looks stunning atm, but that does not guarantee it will still be stuning in december of 2011.
20. Alinda (unregistered)
I think people are getting too emotional with brands. Mercedes vs BMW, Toyota vs Honda - you don't see their fans bash one another. But people loyal to Apple, Android and Nokia why do they clash and are so critical to other brands? Can we make peace and just enjoy our gadgets?
Even if Phonearena is pro Apple that will not persuade me to switch to iOS as long as Adobe Flash is not supported. Even when Phonearena is so harsh to Nokia, I'm willing to give Nokia the benefit of the doubt.
You hear that Steve Job? You want me to buy your iPhone & iPad, then allow full flash support in your devices.
34. box (unregistered)
The car industry is full of brand-loving folk, and it's a worldwide phenomenon. Best example is probably Australia, with the Ford vs. Holden, VERY competetitve
21. Nokialover (unregistered)
I like the way this site supports ios and android but why the f**k does it discourage nokia...just give it some time to show up its specs and does does it can do...and if not just see the video demo on youtube...n9 rocks and its a real market disrupting device of this year..
22. orenz (unregistered)
i think meego will do it, but with a little improvement, watch out nokia is comin!!!
23. Nokialover (unregistered)
I like the way this site encourages ios and android devices but why tin f**k cant you stop discouraging nokia....officially on specs and details are unveiled but you cant stop yourself from discouraging them....just stop you f**king fools...i think n9 gonna be the device to beat this year and its truely the market disrupting device
24. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I am fed up with Android, and iOS isn't even an option for me. I really want to see the Nokia WP7 Phones. Not this garbage. These are the type of phones that have completely ruined their company.
25. ScorpionReader (unregistered)
Today I did a little test. I avoided iphonearena.com and decided to check out the news about N9 on other sites. The purpose of the test was to see the reporters reaction to a new Nokia device. On other sites it was pretty standard stuff but everyone was positively surprised with N9. The design, the UI, the smoothness etc. A 180 degree turn from the Nokia we know (or at least the Nokia we know in the last 2 years).
Then i went to iphonearena.com with some expectations. Those expectations were as follows: mentioning all the flaws of the device, predicting a "probably not so good" future, and a negative tone of the review. Guess what i found!
Thank you iphonearena. This just goes to show how much you ADORE apple, and how you always fail to mention the obvious iPhone flaws. If you praise an inovative design and a good UI are you afraid that Apple will be mad at you? Some of the reviewers like android too but they seem to be a minority. Is Apple paying you?
30. digitaljedi (unregistered)
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!! "iPhonearena"... Priceless!!
26. Nepoc (unregistered)
This is a disappointing phone. If they improved the N950 to make it into a consumer device it would be preferable.
27. John (unregistered)
I don't understand. Everybody, every tech journalist, is enthousiastic about this phone, its software concept and it's aestics. But phonearena manages it to write a sour article about this very promising phone. Without any ground or arguments. Dissapointing. American?
Said that, you're right about the fact that timing is e,ssential. When the phone hits the market by chrismas Nokia won't sell a lot of them.
31. zach (unregistered)
I think this phone looks really cool if it comes out on Sprint I would totally buy it and try it out..... But It's sprint so that probably won't happen
32. box (unregistered)
What Nokia needs to do is get going with the U.S. carriers and have this subsidized. This full-price selling point has been a downfall of theirs for far too long:yes, no contract, and they can be unlocked, but the initial purchase price is equivalent to many potential consumers' paychecks, which need to be split up to address bills and groceries and such, which is why $200 phones sell so well with a contract.
33. AndroidFan1 (unregistered)
Im an android fan, but i support this, and will buy it if it's priced correct
Nokia, please consider the fact that your way too late to the market with a new OS, so if you want to make it, if you want to give Meego a chance, price it to compete!
Dont sky rocket price this product.
One more thing, please change the icons to more glassy light reflect, make it more quality icons, ISO Usability:
SATISFACTION : FOCUS ON THIS
38. r2212xx (Posts: 41; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Looking at the video it does appear to be a good OS. Hope Nokia refines it a bit more by the launch and it'll surely will be capable of taking the competition head on.
39. 3g (unregistered)
let me ask this question again.if hardwear is out dated does that mean the phone wont work?how can a 1ghz with 1 gig ram be out dated?meego doesnt need dat much processing power,av seen 2 core android devices clearly laggin n performing slower than an iphone4.numbers dont mean better when are you fun boys going accept that fact....this device is a record setter just face it. i use an old 3gs wit low processor power yet runs smooth and plays games better than a friends captivate. nokia is welcome to show us something new and we like it...
41. Eric (unregistered)
I like the new model, and laud Nokia for taking the leap. Does anyone remember the original Nokia Internet tablet? They were just a little ahead of the curve waaay back when.. I hope they can find the crest of the newest technology, and ride it to success.
44. pinoynymous (unregistered)
hahahaha..are kidding? Did you know that apple lost a lawsuit from Nokia for copying its patent? Steve Jobs and his iCompany paid Nokia some generous amount of ka-ching, now who's wasting money? If they didn't, the next iPhone may never see light..you're funny..hahaha
if you're loving and bragging you're iPhone around, better be thankful to that Finninsh company who basically developed the tech that Apple used to put on their iPhones.
48. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
He said that all the apps on the multitasking view are live, but when he pressed on the weather app, it updated, hahahahaha. Also, the video paused when minimized, lol. That's not live, that's app suspended in the background just like how it works on the iphone.
50. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Whatever happened to the N8? Lol.
Same thing, nokia fanboys drooled over it and nothing really happened, hahahahaha.
51. IOS5 (unregistered)
IOS+Android= N9! But looks Nice
52. James999 (unregistered)
This site seems so negative when it comes to nokia. Calm down guys and give it a chance... to this new product/OS.
The phone looks great, the amoled screen is super bright, the camera seems a good carl zeiss 8MP product, the "swipe" interface looks original and different, simple to use, no keys on the front panel, ... if apple would have done the same, some people would just go mental, just because it's apple!
And why do people always have to fight like kids about their favorite phone or brand?!? This is really stupid. Don't you guys wanna have the choice and respect other's opinion & taste. As soon as something is posted, the comment section turns quickly into a huge garbage can.
I'm not a nokia fanboy or whatsoever (i use a macbook, Ipod touch, Nokia N series, Samsung galaxy S daily) ... I wanna have the choice, that's it. Someone previously said that "I will never buy a I-product because it does not support flash..."
and I agree. This is pretty annoying to have such powerful devices like the i-pad1 or 2, the I-phone 4 with no flash support. A lot of websites are blocked because of that... and the cameras on i-products are really bad, it's not possible to take a decent picture!!
53. anyone wann sales his or her p (unregistered)
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57. ameen16 (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Jun 2011)
as soon as I was thinkin this as grt phone! U guys disappoint as always.. was wondering is thr FM TRANSMITTER bt I'm amazed to see thr's NO RADIO only !!!!!
U guys hav one o othr problems! jst live a mobile which has evry feature in it !!!
Grow Up! No chance of buying now witout RADIO n FM TRANSMITTER!
60. Dapmose (unregistered)
This is one awesome phone... I love its built in and out. Nokia is sure going to make a success of this beautiful platform. Haters can go on hyping those laggy OSes but in Nokia I still put my mobile phone trust!
62. anthony (unregistered)
This Nokia N9 is fully loaded with great features and MeeGo as plus point