Nokia N8 might be getting a sequel in 2012 running Symbian still, but this time with optical zoom
0. phoneArena 09 Nov 2011, 08:29 posted on
A spring sequel to the Nokia N8 is whispered to be in the works for next year, and this time the camera module might include optical zoom, plus WVGA screen, 1GHz processor and 512MB of RAM. Still Symbian, though...
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1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4498; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Nope Symbian is dead, it should be Windows Phone 7.5 Mango or heck even 8 for that matter. Why waste your time on a dead OS. It just makes no sense.
2. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I agree, I would be very suprised if it wasnt a Mango/apollo set. Symbian is dead. If they release a symbian phone I'd just die laughing..
9. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
what makes you think that?
Symbiant isn't dead.
end of the story
13. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
tell me how it is still alive when Nokia has said that it is dead and they were going to bury it to focus on WP7.
18. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Easy; it's a bridging strategy that takes new Symbian device releases thru 2013. It will be fully replaced on new handset releases when WP Tango and Apollo arrive. In addition, it will be supported thru 2016. Development occurs on Qt, which is still critical to Nokia's strategy long term. Dead now, not exactly. Try out Belle before you make that claim.
29. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Actually, Nokia claimed Symbian will be supported at least untill 2016, or even longer if profitable. So certainly not dead. Who's buying smartphone for more then 4 years anyway ?
22. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You're talking like you wouldn't have bigger concers in your life. it's just a phone.
It's normal. I bought N8 year ago and it still works fine. I needed best camera and navigation.
I'm 100% pleased.
Nokia needs backup system. Symbian will be developing until they switch completely to windows.
When they will be able to implement all their solutions to windows system, then maybe, MAYBE, will give up Symbian.
Symbian still has updates and will receive more.
Dead system would get updates?
It's 4 years dude. It's plenty of time.
25. rafael.roque (Posts: 78; Member since: 03 Jul 2010)
Let them keep their WP7; I and other Symbian users will keep it alive!
And if you like WP7, then good for you too; just don't tell me that Symbian is dead because I don't go running my mouth on WP7.
31. vishu9 (Posts: 252; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
true that bro..long live Symbian Belle or Cindy or Danielle or whatever the heck of updates in the future are gonna be called! Its gonna be a great ride for the 1st ever fully functional feature loaded OS in mobile history! All the other prevalent so called modern OSs like Android (copied so much from symbain viz., widgets) and iOS (don't even get me started ;) ) do not even have many of the features that Symbian users have been enjoying for so long (namely USB OTG, HDMI-output,openly accessible file structure, side-loading of apps, etc. etc)..only thing that it didnt have was an intuitive touch-friendly UI and its been solved to a GREAT extent with Belle, thankfully! there's definitely updates coming and we'll see how it goes...so, yeah, definitely not dead! :)
33. chirole (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Except WP can't handle the awesomeness of Nokia's camera.
3. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
No, Symbian is not dead.
if you die, nothing happens.
Yep, my comment above was stupid and immature. Like yours.
It has support till 2016. Are you sure android will surive to that day?
If they release new and refreshed N8 with bumped specs, optical zoom and higer res (Symbian has no limitations when it comes to res, it's a myth...read more about it) it will find many customers.
Tell me. In which android is better than Belle?
12. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
Sadly, Apps. But personally I'd choose a Symbian device over an Android handset. Just sayin'.
17. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Can't agree. Like I said. There is no apps for android which I couldn't get for my N8. I know that Nokia store seems to be poorer than App store and marketplace, but you don't have to use Nokia store to get your apps. You can root android phones, I can hack my Symbian device to get applications easily. It's not as comfy as your way, but it gets the job done anyway.
20. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Sorry, the latest Nokia Store is on par with the competition. It doesn't come close in total apps...but I've never found myself lacking choice with 60,000 solid apps to choose from. As for games...IOS holds this crown for now...neither Android nor Nokia Store compete on this front. Can't wait for XBox live.
21. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I'm aware of it. I saw this qt beauty.
I don't complain either. Like a said before, I found every single app I needed. But not through Nokia store. And you're right, it's not about quantity.
That's why argument that Symbian is not on par because it doesn't have so MANY applications is stupid.
14. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
support for current handsets and further development are 2 different things. Nokia said the platform is dead and they were going WP7 only, therefore its dead.
16. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Maybe so, but they will support it to 2016. In mobile phones world it's like ages. Put it simply, long enough to expect something interesting.
4. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
One more. How can you say that Symbian is dead when it still have an official support, updates and still people make apps for it? I can guarantee you that there is no such an app available on android which I couldn't find available on Symbian.
6. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Symbian only dead in the US, there are many parts of the world getting symbian devices, esp those where Windows Phone isn't yet supported (remember, Symbian supports over 60 languages, way more than pretty much any other mobile platform).
The choice to do this is Symbian might be the same as why the windows phone devices don't have NFC, bluetooth file transfer, expandable memory, USB on the go, native 3G video calling (not voip as such), pentaband 3G, or TV-out (either composite/HDMI). The platform (Windows Phone) doesn't yet support the technology needed, as much as Nokia would love it too. If you want any of these features, symbian has had them for years (including NFC - see Nokia 6131, as well as the C7 and all the Belle devices this year)
Nokia have said Symbian will be supported to 2016, which to me suggests new devices to 2014 and that they release other high spec symbian devices somewhere in there is no surprise. And BTW, Belle is a vast improvement over previous iterations.
I like windows phone and would love to see all this come to windows phone, as well as some aspects of the Swipe UI (seen on the N9 - the multitasking UI for instance), but for Mango, MS had the code almost locked down when Nokia and MS signed the agreement and it will be appollo where nokia may have some input.
Maybe the first Windows Phone Apollo device from Nokia will also have a super-awesome camera with optical zoom, but like all of the other stuff i mentioned, it will debut on Symbian first, simply because it can, and because people is asia, easter europe, some of western europe, south america, australsia and africa, will happily buy it.
7. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You have a point.
It's US site, so they don't even know what Symbian is. IOS and android only matter. They don't like Nokia too, that's why they simply forget about functions and abilities Nokia has possesed for a long time and those functions are crawling slowly in other systems.
I don't blame anyone for that, because each market has it's own needs. But I hate ignorance.
It will take some time before Nokia will be able to do windows phone form the bottom to the top. But if it happen when apollo comes, they will do fantastic device.
All their knowledge and experience combined with MS in one tiny device.
15. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Noone has a problem with nokia. Most people like nokia. Dislike of symbian doesnt mean dislike of nokia. The only thing people get mad about with nokia is that they dont bring the US their high end phones very often.
8. pheren (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Finnaly love symbian,love Nokia,love my Nokia N8 and sooooooooo would love a new N8!@jackhammer Nokia rules
10. pheren (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Well so far the things keeping me away from even thinking of buying a w7phone by nokia are the limitations w7 offers(besides the money off course),such as,file manager(a propriatery),bt file distribution,well the divx support,usb on the go(use it all the time!)as well as mass storage mode,memory card support(a normal one)and no software binding such as freakin zune!
11. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Yep, that can be annoying.
That's why I must wait for Apollo to see Nokia release from the leash.
That would be great to see all Nokia's innovations in windows system.
19. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I think that Nokia's absence in US market has economical background. Symbian is marginal in US, so there is no point to release new handsets there.
It reminds me DoCoMo and their phones. Amazing pure tech devices but they are available only in japan. Huge market or goverment restrictions?
23. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
I don't give a damn what OS its running as long as the camera works like GOD. I feel like a rabid dog foaming all over on what it finally looks like.
24. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I remember that samsung was trying tricks with optical zoom in g800 and g810 but it didn't work . I hope that Nokia and DD will use their knowledge and make it good. That would be awesome. New era in cell phone photography (I don't take into consideration Japanese wacko...or strange devices like those from canon If my memory serves me well...camera with gsm module:])
26. bbblader (Posts: 584; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
Before I even made a difference between android and symbian i picked a phone
a Nokia C6-01 i liked it for its 8mpx camera with full focus
i need the camera to shoot me and my friends doing parkour
i saw the review from phone arena from it
and then i saw a samsung android phone review
i liked symbian 3 better because it was easier to operate
in my country symbian supports bulgarian
android and ios dont
also i got a friend(but we arent anymore) he got a samsung galaxy s
he's rich and he was my best friend and he thought that nokia are s**t
but before his galaxy s he had a samsung something which was a girl model
he insulted my hole family with the sentence ''Nokia are s**t''
he told me that android is far better than symbian but i wish he now knows of
symbian belle i will soon get the update and my phone will be better than most android phones i will stick with symbian untill its officially dead and wp7 gets most of the things like nfc bluetooth etc. and if windows doesnt only then will i switch to android
jackhammeR can you tell me how to hack games from android to my Nokia C6-01?
27. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Can't hack android games to Symbian. But you can hack your phone and download games on it from other sources (not Nokia Store). When you hack it, it will be unlocked and you don't have any certificate.
I can give you an instructions in private how to do that. Links are prohibited here, so cannot post this.
30. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
First of all, Symbian certainly isn't dead. It will be officially supported at least untill 2016, or even longer if profitable. And it's still the most used mobile OS worldwide.
Im glad to see N8's successor running on Symbian and i will wait for it to upgrade from my now almost year old N8. However, i guess these rumoured specs are fake. I would be surprised if there will be 800x480 display. I think they will stay with 16:9 aspect ratio, so my guess would be 854x480 or 960x540. Also, i think there will be dualcore processor to be able to record 1080p (its cameraphone after all...).
35. chirole (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Symbian won't have dual core until Symbian Donna.
32. sinzim (Posts: 2; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
I loved the hardware and specs of the N8, but did not buy it because of Symbian.. Now it's propably gonna happen again. Damn those Carl Zeiss optics and Xenon flash is so attractive, not to mention that the N8 was sexy as hell.
34. chirole (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
3.5" is small. At least 3.7 would be nice! Nokia is at SE's mercy. An android cybershot with a brilliant 4" display with SE's superb designs can surely steal some old N8 users.