Nokia Lumia 930 goes official: Lumia Icon look-alike for the rest of the world
0. phoneArena 02 Apr 2014, 13:04 posted on
The Nokia Lumia 930 has just gone official, and it is just what rumors painted it to be - a Lumia Icon look-alike smartphone with a 5-inch 1080 x 1920-pixel full HD display…
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1. aayupanday (Posts: 574; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
Fine successor to the 920
But the wait is definitely long :(
17. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
And quite worthy. This will go head on with Sony's Z2. What M8? lol
The next thing they have to work on an IP certified phone.
And a quad-core update for the Lumia 1020.
27. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Whenever you hold this device it will tells you gorgeousness. I bet ya.
51. engineer-1701d (unregistered)
fail no sd card small battery and 2 gig ram. this is to all the people talking crap about the htc m8 saying the 930 will be better
56. Kyokado (Posts: 115; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
2 gig ram on windowsphone. Its different than 2 gigs on android mr engineer.
11. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
On a single carrier in a single country...
15. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
uh, verizon users have the Icon. Can hardly be considered a North American release. Oh well, Maybe next year. Probably be exclusive to some other carrier I don't have.
39. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Likely won't support my bands. No European phone released to date supports all T-Mobile US bands. :(
5. Leonis (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2014)
So no SD-card? wp 8.1 has to be fantastic for me to buy any phones with WP.
23. hurrycanger (Posts: 1563; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
Carrier exclusive is the problem. Verizon service is also too expensive.
13. camera531 (Posts: 344; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
It's the Lumia Icon exactly. Just without the Verizon logo. This means the US has had it for months before the rest of the world.
20. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Was hoping to have some kinda Nokia WP flagship release that wasn't limited to 1 carrier for the first time ever.
9. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Technology from mid-2013. Released as a pretend-flagship in mid-2014. I'm disappointed, Nokia.
14. papss (unregistered)
Say what? It's the same as every other flagship so far
18. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
He's probably spec sheet peepin'. Don't mind him. haha
22. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Expected in May: Snapdragon 805.
Expected this year: 1440p.
20 MP camera.
Expected this year: Computational photography technology.
No SD-card support. No on-screen buttons.
It's nice looking, but the internals are embarrassing. Especially since the release is set for June. This phone was ready back in Q4 of 2013, but was delayed because of Verizon testing and wish to negotiate with Microsoft instead of Nokia. And now Nokia is telling us it's the 930. It's like they just now realised how long ago they released a mainstream flagship and desperately tried to pass this Lumia 929 off as their next flagship.
26. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
So what we can take out of this are that the internals on the S5, M8 and Z2 are also embarrassing?
31. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
People have already criticised the plastics of the S5, camera of the One, minimal change of the Z2 and so forth. But at the very least, they did give them the 801-processor.
And here's the big difference: They're out today. This Lumia 929+1 isn't out for another 3 months.
Sony has already stated they're intending to release upgrades every 6 months to keep up with technology. That would mean the 929+1 is nearly 2 generations behind when it's released compared to Sony's devices.
43. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Yes, they have the 801, which is an iterative improvement of a small magnitude no doubt, but your criteria above was the S805, which none of these devices have.
And no, they aren't out today. The M8 is the only one with any extended availability. The S5 is still waiting to be released in most markets, and heavens knows when the Z2 will see wide release.
In the case of the M8 and S5, these are their flagships for the next year, and they lack the specs you listed to be viable devices in 2014.
I'm not saying the 930 is a beast of a device, or that it isn't wanting, but if you want to label it as a failure spec wise by your criteria, then that label needs to be added to those 3 Android flagships as well.
48. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
The Snapdragon 801 has a few key improvements, but also has increased CPU, GPU, memory interface speeds and image signal processor. The ISP is actually expected to be as fast as the one in the Snapdragon 805, which is quite significant.
Now with a 20 MP camera, that silicon would certainly help with burst modes, slow-motion recordings and 4K recordings. If they would also have added a plenoptic camera, that 801 would have been amazing.
The other manufacturers couldn't really stick an 805 into their devices yet, and they're competing for the market so they couldn't delay their spring flagships by waiting for it.
As for releases, the M8 has already started rolling out globally, S5 has slowly started being released but is facing supply issues and the Z2 is supposed to be out this month globally.
Nokia seem to have severe issues with their release dates being far slower compared to all other manufacturers. I wish they would fix that slight issue.
I'm not saying the 930 is a bad phone. I'm just feeling disappointed the technical details aren't any better than they were in a flagship during the autumn of 2013. And then having to see another extremely slow release date. It's frustrating.
67. MrPhilo (Posts: 49; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
We don't all masturbate over specifications.
34. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
"No on screen buttons."
What?? No thanks. I don't want on screen buttons with space left below the screen.
36. adwienc (Posts: 136; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)
Oh man...S800 will be very good SoC for next 2-3 years and WP is very well optimised, also in games DX will be used which will make games even better without power sufficiency. Who needs 2K on 5" screen? It's so stupid, for me 720p would be good i don't need FHD on such device. Camera is great. No SD is really shame and i don't understand why more and more oems stop putting these slots. On screen buttons are ugly and take screen space. I hate them on Android.
Overall it's great device but imo too big. I find 4.5 of L1020/920 perfect size. And i'd like to see 935 with design of L925
25. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2071; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Its got the same specs as the Galaxy S5 and the M8, & an better camera than those two. And it is way ahead of the iPhone 5S in terms of specs, if that's what you look for in a smartphone. Stop hating just cuz it's WP.
12. Bioload25 (Posts: 213; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Excelent device! But, am i the only one that doesnt seem to notice any hardware diference between it and Lumia Icon? Didnt like the fact that Nokia put on the market 2 very very similar devices overall..
16. boblight (Posts: 84; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Damn right. The 930 looks damn tempting. Look at that specs and design. I might consider this... But then again, Nokia World is in september... Decisions decisions.
37. adwienc (Posts: 136; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)
I think it'll be best to wait for 1030 or 1820 (wondering what it could be)
47. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
The 1820 was unfortunately shot down by Daniel Rubino and his insider sources. What he did catch instead though was a dual-lens smartphone from Nokia expected in Q4 of 2014 or Q1 of 2015, which could be the 1030.
19. Fhdleo (Posts: 11; Member since: 11 Jan 2014)
Hey US guys.... you got LUMIA ICON.. which the same exact phone as 930.. just a name difference..CHILL guys.
50. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
HEY GUY, Verizon has it. Not all of the US.
Id love to buy it but i will not change carriers for any smartphone. I hate Carrier Exclusives
21. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Meanwhile Canada is stuck with the 1020 as the flagship Nokia device available. This is getting ridiculous...
24. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
I don't know of any company as slow to push out their new devices globally as Nokia. I suppose the seized manufacturing plant in India doesn't help them either.
29. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
They just really suck at execution. Nokia makes interesting, fun and compelling devices, but they are terrible at getting them out to market.
46. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Agreed, I absolutely love their devices. I just wish they were some 3-6 months faster with the global release. I wonder where the bottleneck is; development, supply, production or legal hurdles?
35. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Better than me. I'm in the US, and I'd love a 1020. I'm stuck with a Lumia 521 as my flagship...and a disgusting 635 this summer...
42. jellmoo (Posts: 1590; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
You misunderstand... In the US at least different carriers will have different high end devices. The Icon on Verizon or the 1520 on AT&T for example.
In Canada, those options do not exist on any carrier. We have the 1020 pretty much on 1 carrier (having recently been discontinued on another). Heck, my carrier (Bell) has no Nokia devices at all. The only WP device it has is the original Ativ S.
44. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
I do feel for you. Nokia's marketing practices leave much to be desired and it's no wonder their sales suck. They sure as hell aren't doing their selves any favors limiting their exposure. I'm on T-Mobile. We don't get flagship Nokia devices.
30. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2275; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Ughhh June??? No Sdcard option? Price is a little up there.... .. Ahhh.. And OLED screen?? Interesting
32. Diego! (Posts: 573; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
Dear editors of PhoneArena, I have two questions, could you please help me out?
First, why can't I choose Nokia Lumia 1520 when compairing displays with other phones?
Second, does the camera of Nokia Lumia Icon and/or Nokia Lumia 930 have the same specs as the camera of Nokia Lumia 1520?
I will be buying my new phone in June and I wanna be pretty sure to choose the right one.
38. oboboy14 (Posts: 51; Member since: 27 Mar 2014)
A new flagship for T-mobile, or one that at least has the 1700/2100 band would be welcomed. Just switched from ATT, sticking with my old Galaxy Note until more unlocked ATT L1520s become more available, or a decent phone gets released on T-mobile.
41. drazwy (Posts: 198; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Looks like T-mobile is getting the 635, so we're not likely to see a flagship on T-mobile for a long time.
49. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Sorry but this is easily beaten by Galaxy S5
It may have a far prettier look and premium materials but it still has that paltry battery that scored horribly in GSMArena's test.
Further, lack of a memory expansion is a big ommission and huge point loser.
Overall, the GS5 advantages:
- better AMOLED screen
- MUCH better battery endurance(likely)
- lighter and thinner body
- water and dust resistance
- micro SD slot
- removableback cover
- fingerprint scanner and heart rate sensor
- USB 3.0
- barometer, thermometer, humidity sensor
Lumia 930 advantages:
- premium in hand feel
- camera (likely)
- dedicated camera key
Sorry Nokia fanboys/Samsung haters, but facts are very telling this time
52. sbw44 (Posts: 433; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
Wow you base this on your assumptions?
Better AMOLED Screen? show us the source of this test!
Much better battery endurance? sources please!
But seeing how you talk completely bullcrap lets see:
Much better audio quality ( Dolby Headphone enhancement)
Much better audio capture (HAAC Mic's)
Much better offline navigation
More Fluid and Stable OS
Better Voice assistant
and the list can go on and on Samsung Troll
BTW the crappy and cheap design of the S5 "is a big ommission and a huge point loser"
59. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Oh I have sources.
I can only hope you have enough mental capacity to read and comprehend.
63. evildemon (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
woooo talking all grown up but doesnt even know that that review refers only to screens tested by the reviewer which are VERY FEW.
It just includes old screens or samsung screens, so no htc or sony so leave it nokia...
60. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
And here is about the battery life.
Bow, the S5 has wireless charging too, and your "dolby sound enhancement" is something you clearly have no idea about.
Oh and I deliberately left out the OS you idiot, since the category is arguably subjective.
But since you crapped it out, okay let's play it your way:
Okay, lets say WP is arguably more stable and fluid.
But Android is FAR more capable, more versatile, more customisable, more flexible and has a FAR richer app selection.
Can Lumia 930 multi task like android? No.
Can it open multiple windows at the same time? No.
Can it hook up an USB memory stick? No.
Can it hook up a keyboard, external display and a mouse? No.
Can it do file management? No.
Does it have folders? No.
..and the list in fact goes on and on.
64. evildemon (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Jeez more trash. Yes windows phone 8.1 (the one in 930) HAS file management...
Still, can android be lag free like windows phone? No.
Can android be secure like windows phone? No.
Can android be virus free like windows phone? No.
Android might be more versatile, but the experience on windows phone is WAY more reliable