Nokia Lumia 925 trumps HTC One in improvised low-light photo shootout
0. phoneArena 15 May 2013, 01:56 posted on
In case you've watched yesterday's announcement of the Nokia Lumia 925, then you probably know that a huge chunk of the event was dedicated to demonstrating how good the phone's camera is. With 8.7 megapixels of resolution, optical image stabilization, and ISO that can be cranked all the way to 3200, the smartphone's snapper should be theoretically capable of capturing great photos, even in low-light situations. Well, these fine folks actually got the chance to put the handset to the test...
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2. maccess (Posts: 715; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
did the one already loose to 920 in low light before??
34. hipnotika (Posts: 353; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
no thats not fair. Nokia uses flash on focusing !
it takes focused moment in its camera memory. then taking picture with focused flashed photo.
they must make a test in outside and with no flash.!!! non flash focusing !
and this is nokia s big big trick !!!
38. lukkiristi (Posts: 62; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
So doesn't that make HTC stupid for not using technology that helps take better photos?
50. nooraldeen (Posts: 49; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)
there is no such thing if thats the way then when u turn the flash off u will get an image with a flash , besides u can turn that setting off they did it with the lumia 920 and they got the same result but the focusing was not excellent . just admit it already Nokia is the king of cameraphone true they have low sells , not the best OS but they got the best cameraphone
42. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
it was zero light they always say it wrong
4. darkskoliro (Posts: 1058; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Theres no denying that the Lumia has superior camera quality,
But I feel as if they should have done a night mode in their camera test because right now despite their "ultrapixel", the shutter speed times are still fairly fast, meaning they are made for point and shoot for auto focus with about 1/7s shutter speed . If they used night mode there would be considerable amounts of more light coming into the photo. It uses instead 1/3s shutter speed with lower iso reducing the noise by a substantial amount.
Nevertheless, Lumia would have won :) Cant wait to see 41mp sensor on smartphones!
7. jlp34876 (Posts: 80; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)
You can manually set shutter speed on lumia 920 up to 4secs using proshot.
20. darkskoliro (Posts: 1058; Member since: 07 May 2012)
I believe every smartphone camera should be able to adjust the shutter speed and iso manually :\ given that the f stop is not physically possible.
its the proper way to use a camera
44. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
wowowowowow stop right there every camera can have adjustable shutter speed after they get image stabilizer since you must hold ur camera for that whole time u leave shuter open unless ur lens gets stabilizer
8. hung2900 (Posts: 881; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Is it a comparison between flash vs non flash?
Or I don't understand somewhere...
12. devilfisch (Posts: 35; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
The flash used by the Lumia 925 was only used for focusing. It wasn't used when the guy took the picture.
26. hipnotika (Posts: 353; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
but i think it takes focused moment in its camera memory. then taking picture with focused flashed photo.
i think it takes photos with flash but no flash ;)
45. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well they they are trying to be smart then why was HTC NOT :\
41. chocolaking (Posts: 491; Member since: 22 May 2012)
dumb ass in the video don't know how to use the one.
and I don't get this comparison.
I am sure both phones have good camera .
9. Cannabis (Posts: 22; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
but can it do it without the pre-flash photo getting layered on?
16. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
That's not how it works. The pre-flash is used to establish distance, not record a pic. It's activated when the two step camera button is pressed to the first detent. Only on the second detent is the photo actually taken.
21. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
yes it can be turned off. it is a setting that is user adjustable. however as stoli is saying, it isnt necessary. the pre-flash isnt for the exposure. the actual picture doesnt capture any of the flash whatsoever. it just helps the camera focus and then the picture is taken. the actual flash can be used with or without the pre-flash.
10. Smart (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
is it just me or the guy with htc one did not use flash at all?.....
17. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Not sure, but it seems HTC is using another method to establish focus...or the focus is fixed for these low light shots at a preset.
22. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
the lash from the lumia is for focus only. it doesnt effect the lighting conditions at all.
13. nvrhde (Posts: 77; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)
Wow greatest camera on a smart phone.
But no for me, I don't take pics often.
23. 90ninjas (unregistered)
That camera is great. I have an HTC One and I admit that the camera is just so-so on this thing. Low-light is decent at most on the One; captures light, yes, but also a lot of noise. 4 MP does truly hurt the camera as well. But oh well, I'm not looking for crazy looking shots; I just use it as a much more easily pocketable all-in-one (phone, internetz, etc..) point-and-shoot that works decently in the dark and shoots fast.
I would get the NL925, but I just prefer Android over WP8.
27. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
atleast there is one android user being honest here
31. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
This is impressive, but i won't believe the result until i see the settings used in this test, focus assist flash should be turned off and the ISO on the 925 can go up to 3200 do they should show us what ISO setting is used. Also judging from the icon on the top left corner night mode is on on the 925 while it's off on the One
46. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hmm why just setting why not whole sourcecode to see what they are tryng to do in there maybe its illegal -_- why ya all so suspisious if nokia done it so was HTC could do it but they went their style
32. hipnotika (Posts: 353; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
takes photos in night mode in outside not inside and in small rooms and far landscape photos. we will see the difference.
33. funnyguy2 (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 14 May 2013)
I have never seen anyone owning a Lumnia yet...
This phone must be mediocre.
36. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
some people will never get over it...Nokia is the ultimate champion when it comes to cameras. Others just follow hoping to do something similar and when they catch up at last, Nokia is ahead again with sth more advanced.
To all who don't understand. The light is just to lock the focus on. it is not used during taking a photo. It's assists to lock accurately.
One more thing...if you think that ultrapxiel tech has got some advantage over standard camera module, zoom a picture and see for yourself how little details it has got. Htc is narrow minded. Theyw anted to excel in low light forgetting about the rest.
37. b1acktiger (Posts: 216; Member since: 19 May 2012)
I didnt get why those guys set Lumia brightness in High level and HTC One in Low. ?
39. anjel1708 (Posts: 27; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
I'm not saying that Nokia is not going to have a better camera but this is the dumbest comparison demonstration. Either way give the next phone the title of low light king. I'm just glad that this is an issue that is now considered important.
40. PhoneCritic (Posts: 466; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I totally agree that the Nokia Camera is Better ( its an 8+ meg pixels ) and have no issues admitting it, However, I think that this is still an unfair comparison. Turn off the flash for focusing on the 925 and ramp up the ISO then take the picture. Or turn on the flash for focusing on the HTC as well.
48. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
it's not flash dude! it's a AF assist which works on Nokia's phones. It doesn't work when you take a picture. Its only function is to assist when the device is locking on a target.
47. EspHack (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
well its hard to believe how bright it looks on the lumia, considering that the recording camera can barely see that guy in the background...
also stop the bulls**t about the AF light assist, even my n97 does it, and if you disable the damn thing it still takes the same picture but it is away harder to focus
49. shadez10 (Posts: 408; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
why people cant understand what is AF assist light... even my GS2 does AF assist light in focusing... people dont be ignorant...