Nokia Lumia 920 training videos for AT&T leak, exclusive for 6 months
0. phoneArena 18 Oct 2012, 00:31 posted on
The gears are turning at AT&T as the carrier prepares to launch the Nokia Lumia 920 exclusively in the US...
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16. -box- (Posts: 3990; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I wonder if I were to get a holiday job at an AT&T store if I'd get a 920 demo phone... that would be fun...
..of course I'd also have to deal with sheeple who are interested in iphones or thing that smartphone = iphone. Hmm..
3. remtothemax (Posts: 254; Member since: 02 May 2012)
...so long enough for this phone to be an irrelevant piece of trash?
do you think nokia will ever pick up on why they have never had terribly large success in the u.s. market?
4. remtothemax (Posts: 254; Member since: 02 May 2012)
admittedly i am just a bitter verizon user who really wanted this phone
6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Buy a Sony RX100? Cost is about the same, and photo quality is better. Physical footprint of the RX100 is about that of the PureView 808. Just no phone/text/e-mail/Internets, but presumably you already have that with your present phone.
5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Valid points. 6 months is basically obsolete technology that is on a glide slope until the replacement comes out. By June, 2013 the GS IV will have been announced and buyers attention will be focused on when pre-orders can be made. Additionally, leaking for the iP5S will be in full swing to both pee in Sammy's bowl of Cheerios as well as get buyers ready to pre-order the iToy.
Nokia will have modest success with the 920 in the U.S.. Whatever they put up in 920 sales with AT&T, there will be the realization that they could have probably doubled it absent a carrier exclusive.
HTC is definitely breathing a huge sigh of relief. Sammy is basically doing a market test, but HTC needs all of the sales it can make.
14. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
then again, Nokia will make new phones on 2013 aswell. and will make a better phone than lumia 920 to compete with iphone5 and S4.
you are thinking blindly.
17. -box- (Posts: 3990; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Never had terribly large success?
Does your memory not predate 2008?
7. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Nokia's decisions since Elop may look disastrous,, but I really think that most of the decisions were taken, keeping in mind Nokia's future.
Let's analyze what are the postulates of ATT exclusivity deal.
1. Nokia still doesn't have presence in the US yet, so they shouldn't be aiming at claiming the whole customer base. A step at once seems good enough to me.
2. Exclusivity deal will help them to keep the production rate in check. Nokia doesn't have huge mass producer like foxconn. Huge demands will cripple down the supplies and raise customer hate.
3. Also, assuming that the 920 manage to be a successful phone, will bind many ATT customers to contract, effectively preventing them from buying the next generation of Lumias which will arrive in next year. While there still might be many varizon, sprint, t-mobile customers waiting in line to get hold of it.
Lets hope Nokia revives and becomes successful just as before...
8. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The problem for Nokia is that they are running out of time and cash. The 920 is a make-or-break phone for them. No sales = no income, which means hit the piggy bank or raise cash from investors.
9. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
It'll appear to you that way, if you forget the world outside of US. Remember, that huge profits that Nokia once made did not come from the US. What I am trying to say is, Nokia doesn't immediately go bankrupt if they ditch One or Two carriers in US, partially (Since they are still getting Lumias, not 920 though). And the fact is that they've managed to convince China Mobile which is a great news for them. It'll be difficult for them to keep up pace with the number or orders they'll get at the start, being optimistic.
10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
If memory serves, Nokia has always sold more phones outside of the U.S. Maybe that will be their salvation. My point is that carrier exclusives invariably don't work. I don't know what level of sales Nokia is targeting for the U.S.-bound L920s, but if they don't hit their target, the carrier exclusive will be a large part of the reason.
I was thinking about trying the L920 if it had been available on VZW. But having to wait 6 months? Fugeddaboudit.
11. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Haha so you are VZW customer. I understand how do you feel, in my country there is no such thing as carrier contract. So yeah, initial cost is high but you get the freedom. I think some enthusiasts will buy the Unlocked 920. It's also available, right? It will certainly be a pain to buy a flagship @ unlocked price but anyways the carrier also would charge the same amount over time. I say, buy the unlocked version, pay in EMIs.
12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
An unlocked L920 would require me to switch to AT&T (no GSM on VZW). In the S.F. Bay area, AT&Ts LTE footprint pales in comparison to VZWs.
An L920 exclusive to AT&T basically makes the L920 a non-starter for me.
13. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
Or maybe you could get the 922 which'd be shown at CES 2013?
18. -box- (Posts: 3990; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I don't think it's a make it or break it phone, necessarily. Nokia has thrived on the low- and mid-level market, and done decently in the high-level. The 820 and its variants will sell well on its multiple carriers, and the 920 will be the flagship for the time being until next year's models. The 6-month timeframe is very telling, likely the time that Nokia would be coming out with gen-3 Lumia and PureView models.
Nokia could surivive on R&D and patent royalties alone, if they wanted to.
I also would disagree with carrier exclusives not working. I have a few acquaintances who switched to one carrier for something specific, be it a DROID, a specific BlackBerry, Nexus/G1/G2, Lumia 900, and even the iPhail.