Nokia App Reality video suggests that Windows Phone isn't far behind Android and iOS when it comes to apps
0. phoneArena 07 Mar 2014, 14:43 posted on
With more than 200,000 available apps, Windows Phone Store can now offer almost anything you need. But is that enough to keep users happy and not craving the apps that Android and iOS have?...
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1. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Its I had a easy transition from Note 3 to Lumia 1520, I was worried I join too early, but it seems I join at the right time, been with android for so long so it definitely felt good to try something new
25. akki20892 (Posts: 3798; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Great bro. WP is getting hotter n hotter every day. My next upgrade is lumia in 2015 summer, I'm excited. I left my N8 in 2013 summer, so after two years - in 2015 summer I'm coming back to Nokia again.
45. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
You will love it, by time you come back it will feel brand new to you
52. akki20892 (Posts: 3798; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
I'm sure I will love it and will feel brand new.
54. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
It will be brand new alright, but it won't be the Nokia you/we loved. It'll be in the hands of Microsoft, calling itself Lumia.
Nokia has lost a lot of key people that made Nokia, Nokia, since the announcement of the merger.
Such as Nokia's key designer, Marko, Nokia's Camera Guru, Damian Dinning and people as such.
58. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You are good at pointing out the negative side, but can you ever say anything positive?... So, everyone knows that your opinion is credible can you tell us what the positive side of MS building Lumias is?... Speak up!!
Or, are you just trolling, and unnecessarily whining as usual... Why don't you give us some real constructive criticism that points out the good, and the bad.. Because there's a potential for both... ??????
59. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
"can you ever say anything positive ... Why don't you give us some real constructive criticism that points out the good, and the bad?"
I will, if there is anything positive/anything good about Windows Phone.
60. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
That's something negative again... So you admit that you're a troll?
64. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
Like you, I can't claim something negative as being positive.
One can only hope something negative to become positive.
65. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I already told you that it's too late.. It's to late to explain yourself.. You've already dug your hole deep enough.. Do you want to dig it deeper?
69. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
No thanks. Its not as deep as the hole you're in, but Windows Phone will take care of it, like how it took care of yours.
70. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Just keep making it worse for yourself... You better start believing, because you're playing with fire..
74. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
"You better start believing"
What? The lies of the Windows Phone fans?
"because you're playing with fire"
61. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You know what... Forget it... I can't help what happens to you because of your negative attitude.. I know you are a negative person outside of PA.. Be careful..
Just be really cautious for the next few days, and don't take any risk..
63. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I already said forget it... But, it's to late now...
72. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Honestly I do not care if Nokia not making it with their name on it, as long as the same team made it the phone can have any name, even if it was called flappy bird I would still buy it as long as its the same team
76. draconic1991 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Apps are there in the store....im just skeptical about the games....and most of them either do not release on windows phone or come very late....i wanna try windows phone too...i love the interface and the smoothness...its just i also play a lot on my mobile...so if the developers would take windows phone as seriously even though its not that common...it wud be awsome...because when they support...the os will automatically grow..
85. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Very, very true... But, MS is horrible at marketing, and awareness, and they refuse to do what is necessary to highly promote WP to a level where it is known, and recognized, by the average consumer...
Until MS quits playing around with WP then everyone else will keep "playing around" with it ....... I remember driving down the highway several years ago seeing Droid billboards showing that Droid has apps.. That was a huge marketing effort by Motorola at the time... Have you ever seen MS/Nokia do anything that big, for that long, that consistently for any aspect of WP??
I'll say it over, and over, again... There is nothing wrong with WP.. WP has more than enough to offer for at least the average consumer.... WP is not the problem, apps are not the problem, features are not the problem. And, MS really won't have an excuse after WP8.1..
No, WP isn't the problem... The problem is Marketing, awareness, and perception, and all of that can be greatly improved on.. I blame MS because they know their position in mobile, they've developed a solid platform, and they just refuse to take it to another level.
86. draconic1991 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
What they should do is take out atleast 2 more value for money phones....one in the mid segment and another a high end one like a nexus....the lower end is already covered by lumia 520 nd 525 (which is y its actually doing decently in the lower segment market)...and they need to do this fast...and keep the supply up...so that when people see that they get much better specs on same price...people will atleast be curious to take a look...
And then they need to advertise like mad men...once this is done there will be awareness and there will be market for windows phone...they just need to do this once...and then maybe if they want...follow a nexus like line in the future...
91. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
It doesn't matter what kind of device it is. It can be super high end, or ultra low end... If you do what's necessary to market the device, and build excitement on a high level, the device should do fairly well...
It's not rocket science, and nothing abstract needs to be applied here... Just common sense... That's been really hard for MS in the recent past.. Lets hope with the restructuring they pull their heads out of their a$$es....
104. jroc74 (Posts: 5600; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I do believe marketing and perception are huge problems for MS.
Many, many people didnt just jump ship from the old Win Mo for nothing. And I think for them and BB.....perception is gonna be the downfall of their platforms.
105. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
It will be if something isn't done about marketing.. But, I wouldn't say that it's definitely going to be the downfall of MS products because it's nowhere near too late.
101. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Once again a WP related article is the most popular current article on PA... That says a lot..
2. sakurorhino (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
Nothing beats Google's own official app
Well Facebook too :D
4. elitewolverine (Posts: 3619; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
We have full browser support, so meh. Metro tube works great, no ads either. Score.
Facebook? they are the same app at least in my quick look
10. sakurorhino (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
Not as perfect as official apps available for android
Still there are so many features which are not made available for WP in those apps
And i dont know why comments are hidden or disabled on those metro tube or etc etc
13. sip1995 (Posts: 1358; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
So many features which are not made available...like WHAT ?
18. sakurorhino (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)
Chats has to be keep refreshing manuslly every time to get a new message??
46. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Nope not in the new messenger app Facebook just gave us, and I am using it now all the messages come straight as soon as they are sent
99. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yes, this is built right into WP.. No need for the app... And, it works instantly.
98. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Wrong.. FB chat is built right into WP's messaging hub.. If you have the feature turned on you get messages instantly...
Do you have a WP device?
15. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
What feature are missing, or you talking about Facebook app from last year, cause maybe last year they were missing stuff, I can do the same thing I was doing on my android except record voices
22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I disagree with your claim that "We have full browser support,". I went through a long debate in another article about the extent of browser support between WP8 and current versions of iOS and Android. If memory serves, you participated in that debate. There are limits to the browser support in WP8 for web site omissions (cursor highlighting the Reply button in comments made to PA articles for example) that are otherwise addressed in iOS and Android.
While WP8 treatment of cursor highlighting may technically not be an omission on the part of WP8/MS, given that iOS and Android address the omission, there is an effective gap in WP8. These effective gaps (no native YouTube app is another effective gap) are what IMO is keeping the WP adoption rate in single digits. JFK once said (I am paraphrasing) - it is better to make a candle and light it than curse the darkness.
Maybe WP8.1 will be that candle.
27. akki20892 (Posts: 3798; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
I agree, but in internet explorer 11 they done huge improvements and we will see. I guess we have wait for Opera and Firefox too.
48. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I think your using the wrong word to explain the situation, because all you have to do is touch the comment and the word reply come up so you can respond. I think gap would be better use if you cannot reply on phone arena with a windows phone, but that's not the case. Youtube app or not we still get Youtube, we do the same amount of clicks you do to look up a song or video. I do not see the big deal, maybe in your next post you can point it out cause I still haven't hear a thing you say we cannot do
51. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Oh, yeah... I remember you.. Troll. Who cares?.. You think the average consumer cares??.
We are the minority... Your reasons are wrong....
82. sgodsell (Posts: 2504; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
You just have to go to http://html5test.com and see for yourself that WP8 with IE10 is the least compliant html5 browser on the market.
84. Starrbuck (Posts: 3; Member since: 08 Mar 2014)
What about 3rd party browsers? Do they have the same issues. And not only does WP have to have the apps, but it has to be a "native" app? That's ridiculous.
88. elitewolverine (Posts: 3619; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
It was not a long debate. We do have full html5 and css3 support. While as droid does not yet, at least not in the flagship like the note 3.
The difference in how a browser handles a coding error like a mouse over is not mean the browser is broken.
It means that a sight such as this (and it is one of the few sites) has not been implemented for lack of no mouse over support.
In other words bad html coding. And using m.phonearena.com is working, for posting. You point out one flaw, one flaw on the part of PA's coders, not MS for a function. Sorry if MS expects coder competence.
Even now on a touch tablet, PA's lack of coder competence means I cannot post via IE.
Again, native youtube app, big freaking woop. I got full browser for youtube (that works). Metrotube works just fine.
My browser even supports google service like google music, play right from the browser in desktop view.
41. Liveitup (Posts: 1797; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Where is the guy/girl who always says.
"WP has no apps or games", someone should show him/her this .
42. sip1995 (Posts: 1358; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Actually there more than 350k apps, not only 200k the ad is incorrect.
50. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1694; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
I will be that guy. Good browsers? WP has none, none at all (IE blows, and no Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari, or Dolphin). Banking apps? Good games? I can name one hundred I have on my G2 and my iPad that WP doesn't have, and that's the tip of the iceberg. Nokia's apps are good, but they can't stand on their own with MSFT's own half-ass web page conversions and native apps that lack core functionality.
53. papss (unregistered)
See you were behaving yourself and now you flip the switch like a bipolar child.. So I say to you... COME ON MAN! Its not necessary and you look silly.
55. alterecho (Posts: 1096; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
The core parts of the OS itself are messed up, let alone the browser and the apps.
92. elitewolverine (Posts: 3619; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Messed up? Really?
So our Note 3 in our pod for tech support crashes weekly with a lovely google process error, not to mention mine, or a recent iPhone user who switched to android as part of a carrier incentive. Crashes weekly or daily. Like for two days the magazine app would not open. And you consider that a good OS?
While I know plenty that don't have this problem with droid, in fact I bet you will come out and tell me how rock solid it is without any restarts or process errors. Good cause you can add 8 Windows OS phones to that list for me too. My 925's (3), 8x, 3 521's and an Icon (used it for a week loved it).
Does it have issues? sure, I just master reset two 521's because they wouldn't connect to the web last week, and it fixed it. I exchanged a 925 for camera not opening on any app.
73. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
It do not need those, I will admit in android early stages it needed to have another browser, but as android improve the stock browser can handle everything thrown at it and I feel the same about the Lumia 1520. I do not think the 520 can handle everything thrown at it, but the 1520 can do anything note 3 can do
6. Gemmol (Posts: 660; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Lumia 1520 web browser play Youtube video good
94. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
It does.. I use it everyday on my 1520..
8. sip1995 (Posts: 1358; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Have you got offline mode in the official app ?
11. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
One thing that I really like on android youtube app, is that I can put the video on a small screen and search for other videos while I´m still wacthing the old one, and all that with a very smooth transaction, saying that, I completely disaproove what Google has done with microsoft youtube app.
38. papss (unregistered)
I agree with that. I'm fond of the small window an md searching while its playing as well.
30. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Quit being petty.. Who cares?.. Grow up.
3. elitewolverine (Posts: 3619; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I have yet to find an app that a normal every day person would use, that there is not an alternative app or way to do so on windows phone.
A big one was people's bank apps, i dont have a bank app for windows phone, my bank has not yet made one. However, thanks to html5 and css3, i am able to do all my mobile banking in either mobile or desktop view with no errors.
Games are subjective, the one i want the most is Dungeon Keeper, that game back in the day soaked up many hours of my life. Considering windows phone is C and C++ compatible, a boot of the original could very much be possible.
26. HASHTAG (Posts: 257; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)
I wonder what your perception of a "normal every day person" is.
89. elitewolverine (Posts: 3619; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Easy, lets see social, most will have facebook, I got that, most will take photos, got that too. Most will use some form of 3rd party messenger app. The one I deal with every day tech'n on droids because the lastest update is crashing and needs a reinstall of the app. We got those too.
Maps? Yup got Sami, well that's what I name the voice of my Nokia drive. Traffic? Drive has that too, what about Waze? Got that.
Oh but sharing of photos like instagram, got that too, though I prefer 6tag.
App for funny pics, 9gag works great.
Games? Got those, though I am not the person that thinks my phone is a gaming device, I have my 11.6in tablet with full windows support to do actual gaming.
Lets see, oh banking...well as stated I don't have a banking app for my bank. Yet I can do everything....in the browser.
Youtube? Metrotube, or full browser works just fine.
Oh music? Yup have Pandora, Nokia Music, Xbox Music (which is holding 4k songs in the cloud thanks, even ones I didn't buy from the store), music downloader? Got a great one too, called music download.
Netflix? Got that...
I have 4 kids, kids corner works awesome.
Hmmm oh phone calls, wifi calling, yup that too.
Oh I sometimes don't like to carry my Canon DSLR everywhere, oh wait I got something slightly nicer than other droids offering at the time I bought my phone. With ISO, Shutter and Focus support? Sold.
Oh wait, I know people love to make ringtones...got that too.
News? Yup my pc, tablet, and phone all sync news, weather?
I mean come on, you act like everyone on droid is doing something that is soooooo special, that their life would crumble.
Oh I also edit excel sheets, word docs, from time I powerpoint, I do this integrating into Onedrive and Office 365 for work, without the need for a 3rd party app.