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Nokia 808 PureView Hands-on Review

0. phoneArena 27 Feb 2012, 04:42 posted on

Alright, so here it is, probably the last (or one of the very last) Symbian smartphones ever – the Nokia 808 PureView. And boy is this an epic way for Symbian to exit the industry!

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posted on 27 Feb 2012, 08:37

28. Guest_star (Posts: 231; Member since: 30 Dec 2011)


I have a question, I don't know much about cameras, and even less about phone cameras but what i know is that the wider the lens is the better night pictures are, so does it mean that HTC one X will actually have better night pictures with its f2.0 lens than this f2.4 lens although it has lower pixel count on its camm?

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 09:05 4

29. bert2662 (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I think this is the place for the humungus 41 MP sensor and the Xenon flash to play their roles. Bear in mind that xenon flash is much more powerful den dual led flash,

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 21:02 3

53. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


There are a multitude of reasons why Pureview is a game changer for low light conditions, beyond simply hardware benefits of a massive Xenon Flash for stills and hi Intesity LED for video. First, the massive proprietary sensor, which allows special oversmapling techniques (e.g. taking 8 pixels and distilling this to one virtually noiseless "perfect" pixel). Second, a dedicated GPU for the camera module (in addition to the CPU and other GPU for the phone), allowing for processing that is 16 x more intesive than other competing flagship products on the market. Third, latest generation Pureview optics that are 10x more accurate than previous on the market. Yes, the sensor is 41MP, but effective area is reduced to 38MP for 4:3 and 34MP for 16:9 shots. There is a 5MP default setting whereby 8 pixels are oversampled to algorithmically yield 1 "perfect" pixel, effectively devoid of noise. Of course, other resolutions can be chosen, to include raw sizes up to 38MP.. The 5MP keeps a rather small file size of only 1MB and is most likely the best choice for daily use by avg users.

This is game changing tech...and not just for smartphones...but for photography in general. You can leave your compact digital/compact zoom in the drawer with this Nokia device by your side. With this phone, low light action shots of high quality become simple endeavors.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 09:06 5

30. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


No one x is not gonna have better image quality than nokia pureView.
And you say what am i gonna do on a nokia pureView i am gonna replace my digi cam.
And i am not gonna buy nokia pureView. I got my sight set on sony xperia s.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 09:11 5

31. A.aoudi (Posts: 125; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


41 MPX and Nokia video quality in Full HD. One word KKKKKKKKIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRR!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 09:26 7

32. Snoobab (Posts: 174; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


For years I've read speculation about what would happen if someone built a sensor with a pixel count way beyond diffraction limits, creating final images by downsampling. No Bayer interpolation artifacts or need for antialias filters etc. I'd never have guessed Nokia to be the one to give us an answer.

Calling this device revolutionary is an understatement. Speechless!

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 11:18

116. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Yeah samething that Nokia had the answer to Nintendo's Gameboy... The N-Gage was supposed to be a gamechanger too according to them remember?

Well let us leave the talking to the sales figures.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 09:27 5

33. hunted (Posts: 353; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


A phone with higher megapixel than my camera?????????????? Boy im really impressed with this product. Love you Nokia :)

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 10:23 5

34. spicythecoolboy (Posts: 3; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)


hardware requirements by symbian is low..........as compared to android or the ios.......

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 12:22 2

37. cristianer (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Aug 2010)


Fantastic...

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 12:41 3

38. -box- (Posts: 3879; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


This is my next phone. So. Much. Win.
Tell me that it has a MicroSD slot and it will be future-proofed for 128GB MicroSD cards to make room for those huge images

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 13:15 3

43. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


It has microSD, but only upto 32GB. My next phone too.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 20:33 3

45. Rockimaru (Posts: 29; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


When I saw the zoom capability... "God Damn!".. I'm a Nokia N8 user, and this phone is really apealing to me, yes mainly because of the camera. but $600 for a 41mp lense? i think that is a decent deal, plus you get a phone with it. =D

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 11:02 3

50. neutral22 (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


As I understand it ..this phone ,is a great successor to the N8 (one of my favourite phones of all time)

The only thing I (think) is lacking ,is the FM transmitter, and the USB 3.0 support,
the N8 had , what I really liked about the N8 was the amount of detail ,and hardware
put into the phone ,things you haven't seen since on later Nokias

I missed the HDMI out, USB3 ,Bluetooth 3.0 , face cam ( yes I do use videocall sometimes) with the N9 ,yet :) that one offered Wi-fi hotspot .and a great operating system with the Meego. ( I too belong to the group who'd love to see more Meego ..but I also realize Nokia is in a position they need to fortify their position ,and start earning money again, if they wish to remain among the top of their field)

(yes :p I know that's a topic one may discuss to death, but they make great cellphones, and sell bucketloads ...'at least until you compare their sales to other smartphone makers)

Thing is with the Nokia 808 , it -is- great new for people who enjoy Symbian ^3 Belle
I belong to that group , and I've run Android (SG2) , Meego (N9) and WP 7.5 (Lumia800) ,

WP7 is -toooo- limited still, it doesn't let me use Bluetooth to send files or music
it doesn't have proper file management , it's got some silly restriction, when comes to ring tones (you can't just set your music ,for ring tone or alarm ? !!!) it's a ...difficult ,OS to readily accept, coming from years of Symbian (and a year of Android)

WP7 is a wonder to use, it's easy ,fast, fun , I love how the messenger services are integrated ,the people hub, short story I love my Lumia 800 ,but I'm frustrated with the many sudden limitations I suddenly have to face with the WP7 .

I'm getting the Nokia 808 'cause i take -lots- of pictures with my phone, and I loved the N8 'cause of the great photos I shot :)

Having an even better camera phone ,on an OS I know and love , yes please

(and I know i'm not alone , it might be slightly nieche ,but it's a great phone heralding lots more to come :)

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 11:36 4

51. rav405 (unregistered)


808 pureview has a front camera.....I checked on the nokia official website and you can even see it on the hands-on photos its really small so its not easily seen in the photos.....

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 16:58 5

52. -box- (Posts: 3879; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


One thing I'm glad about is the fact they put the 3 buttons on the front. the N8 (and E7 for that matter) only had one button on the front, and it was one of my biggest disappointments on the design. i love love love having a physical call/disconnect button, because it's a phone first, and I should be able to use my phone's main functions without having to look at it

posted on 03 Mar 2012, 05:45 3

72. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


...and it also has BT 3.0 and the FM transmitter. Basically, it matches the N8 in every area plus the super camera, better base CPU/GPU/RAM specs, better screen, DNLA, Secure NFC, larger battery, LED torch in addition to larger Xenon flash, larger battery, removeable battery. The only thing it lacks vs the N8 is the extra 2mm Nokia charging port...I think.

posted on 03 Mar 2012, 10:48 1

73. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


and the HDMI, i know its not for everyone but i cant live without it :D

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 00:10 6

55. hari120 (Posts: 21; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


hey u craparena, when x7 released u said its the last symbian fone, den whe 701 released u agn said its their last sym fone and now u jealosy ugly fandroids saying just to reduce their sales huh??? Keep on dreaming craparena.. posting wrong information will make u looose ur buisiness
nokia belle just roxxxx :D

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 06:11 6

61. bilal123 (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)


Actually, if a phone satisfies one's needs, plus an excelllent camera, one doesn't need android nor iphone os.
Also, it's a well known fact that symbian, in all its forms, is the oldest, most matured software. This is reflected in the fact that an N8 runs as good as 1 GHz phones running android, and gives better battery timing than iphone or android.
Having used and gotten fed up with others, I realised that all the needed apps are there on Symbian. Does anyone really need half a million apps?

posted on 02 Mar 2012, 01:47 5

67. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Half a million apps. Half that number is just crap apps. Then the other apps are just duplicate functionality. 100 keyboard apps, 500 camera apps, 600 music players and the list goes on. There are some apps that you dont get on symbian, but lets face it. I have more apps installed on my N8 than i can serious use. Lots of games that i dont have time to play. Apps that i have never used since i installed them. So for me, the number of apps is like the last thing to consider about the OS.
Then after that, comes the dual/quad core battles. Yet we all know that some single cores perform flawlessly.
Nokia 808 is pure innovation, and i am so gonna get one for myself.

posted on 04 Mar 2012, 21:01

79. gavination1322 (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


It's a combination of the number of cores as well as core intelligence. If a single core processor can perform tasks more reasonably with better instructions, then yes, it could perform better than a multiple core processor. My EVO 4G is single core, but the snapdragon processor is still able to bench better than half the market of high end smartphones, even after two years. However, power is power, and this phone just doesn't have it. I do enjoy the camera's intuition though.

posted on 05 Mar 2012, 09:19 1

80. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


and yet my 680mhz N8 can run apps better than a dual core android.... or a single core one.... each OS handles things differently some OS' need more power simply to be able to handle the OS and the App some dont have the proper algorithims to be efficient so they load on stronger processors to make up for it

that's Android for you

Symbian on the other hand is extremely efficient and it utilizes its chips well... more effectively, properly

don't get confused by big numbers that's for suckers; if it wasn't for nokias history and their explanation of how the camera is used you would just be a sucker for the number 41

so since you're not fooled by the 41mpx and actually look at how its being used... dont get fooled by "dual, quad, octo" cores

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 11:21

117. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


At least the iTunes apps and Google apps have something for everyone.... Symbian was only meant for Nokia fans. That's why the main reason why Symbian is a dying breed...

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 12:04 3

62. ganeshraj (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)


I cant believe nokia is into such a good product, 41 mega pixel is beyond imaginary level thanks to nokia for its wonderful product....
http://tech2wonder.com/nokia-808-pure-view-41-megapixel-camera-unbeliveable.html

posted on 01 Mar 2012, 13:52 4

63. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


steps to symbian becoming GREATER:
1. become open source
2. release more phones with innovation like the 808
3. make more symbian phones and less windows phones

posted on 02 Mar 2012, 13:31

69. nunaralte (Posts: 1; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


All i can say is WOW

posted on 03 Mar 2012, 21:08 2

77. vishalvenky (Posts: 44; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


thats what Elop wants everybody to say about all his devices. see his interviews and u ll get to know why i said that.

posted on 03 Mar 2012, 20:47

76. tomasca (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


Clarity of camera is stunning on my poor quality monitor!!! Own 6265I, Droid Razr, HTC Amaze. The Android runs warm to hot, always. Too many ads/pop-ups with droid apps. No SD card for WIN8 phone or Iphone--you are enslaved to their concept of ecosystem. The 808 has EVERYTHING I have ever wished for on a cellphone, except CDMA. This may be end of the line for Symbian, but I want it. It says world phone and has T-mobile USA frequency---I am praying it happens..

posted on 04 Mar 2012, 20:53

78. gavination1322 (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


It seems cool, but the overall quality of the rest of the phone doesn't take me in. It's trading camera quality for power, and I'd feel like I was paying high end phone cash for a mid range phone's power. judging from the method they use to get the pixelage (if that's a word) it is pretty interesting. What with super pixels and everything. I like the innovation, just not the specs. And Symbian...meh. I'm glad Nokia feels like thye can promote a non ios non android os, but I'll be honest: I heart apps, and after what Blackberry went through, I'll never look at an under the radar OS.

posted on 05 Mar 2012, 09:20 1

81. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


and yet my 680mhz N8 can run apps better than a dual core android.... or a single core one.... each OS handles things differently some OS' need more power simply to be able to handle the OS and the App some dont have the proper algorithims to be efficient so they load on stronger processors to make up for it

that's Android for you

Symbian on the other hand is extremely efficient and it utilizes its chips well... more effectively, properly

don't get confused by big numbers that's for suckers; if it wasn't for nokias history and their explanation of how the camera is used you would just be a sucker for the number 41

so since you're not fooled by the 41mpx and actually look at how its being used... dont get fooled by "dual, quad, octo" cores

posted on 06 Mar 2012, 22:45

85. gavination1322 (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


Oh, no, I was never fooled by the Dual vs quad vs single core processors. I'm working with a single core snapdragon that still runs circles around most high end smartphones today. It's all about instruction. I also respect how long Symbian's been in the game as far as OS's go. However, I've always lived on the premise that excellent software would only be that much more excellent with great hardware. Now, we face sort of an apple conundrum. Since they have their own OS (a highly modified version of Linux or Unix, whatever), they don't need as much horsepower to keep up with a computer running mac, because that software was outfitted for that computer. I get that, but if that mac or this phone had the same hardware as the more mainstream models, it'd blow them out of the water. That's why this mid-range processor leaves me with a feeling of lackluster. It could've been better.

posted on 07 Mar 2012, 10:28 2

86. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


i see what you're saying, yes more is always a + as long as the battery stays alive hehe

posted on 07 Mar 2012, 14:50

88. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


most definitely need the battery to last, coz otherwise what would be the use of the quad core when the phone blacks out before half the day is gone!

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 15:50

97. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


what are you smoking? 680mhz running apps better than dual cores?

posted on 04 Apr 2012, 06:46

99. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


yeah like i said its not all about the cpu its about the operating system behind it and how well it manages the system

with my n8 the gpu does most of the work anyway so its not technically just the 680mhz cpu

just look at how badly gingerbread/honeycomb ran some apps its pathetic

and the N8 is still able to multitask with well over 20 apps running in the background (true multitasking)

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 06:51

103. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


do you have an n8? i have one and i tried running multiple apps and it became laggy. compared to 1+ghz with 1gb ram its eating dust.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:01

105. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


You owned an N8? That piece of s**t phone can't do s**t!

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:10

108. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


You have no idea how well the Android phones do multitasking

For instance, there we're totally more than 15 ads running on it's background while the 30+ apps update all at once constantly...

Yet my HD porno running on my SII is still running slick.

If you're saying SLOWER CPUs are the way to go, then I won't be surprised if Nokia goes BACKWARDS on their devices.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:12

109. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


You also have to take the RAM into consideration. The only reason why the Iphone and Iphone 4 only needed 512MB Ram is because it doesn't do TRUE multitasking... It only puts to sleep any additional apps you open while opening another one.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 11:31 1

118. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Judging by your ":technical expertise", I bet you still use an Intel Pentium 4 processor... You said it like "the fewer the CPU, the better...".

Of course that's not always the case.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 11:59

123. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


What he is implying my friend is that pentium 4 processors are better or equal than core i7 processors if you will put it into a PC perspective.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 14:00

126. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


That sounds really dumb and idiotic...

Intel may be doing something wrong here coz they keep on bumping up the Core numbers.

Oh wait a minute, all we need is a Symbian OS and all is fixed. NOT!

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:58

112. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Definitely a Mid Range phone... the whole camera thing is nothing but a GIMMIK. Seriously, who needs 40+ Megapixels on an outdated LCD screen?

posted on 05 Mar 2012, 15:38

83. miki69 (Posts: 13; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)


808 vs N8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/umpcportal/6797378378/in/set-72157629487748303

http://www.flickr.com/photos/umpcportal/6797377982/in/set-72157629487748303

posted on 14 Mar 2012, 15:07

90. phones522 (Posts: 94; Member since: 27 Jan 2010)


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posted on 15 Mar 2012, 05:20 1

91. rick_mobile (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Dec 2010)


I'm always taking pictures with my phone so this is a serious consideration for me, If the iphone 5 doesn't come with a bigger and better cam modue, then this will be mine, (considering SGS3 doesn't impress us)

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 15:53

95. Tomas (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Dec 2010)


The phone has everything I could every need and an incredible camera. Symbian works fine for me. I live in the U.S. and do NOT want Winphone. Will the 808 work on ATT or T-mobile? Does anyone know?

posted on 26 Mar 2012, 06:03

96. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


its pentaband so it'll work

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 15:52

98. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


take away the camera and this phone is so 2010.

posted on 04 Apr 2012, 06:48

100. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


2010 would be the 12mpx 680mhz 256mb ram Nokia N8...

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 06:52

104. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


and 2010 is 1+ghz and 1gb ram. :-)

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 15:20

131. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


and a higher ppi (more than 200), good applications and a subpar camera. o wait they only have 8mpx. sh!theads never learn.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 02:46

101. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Oh year, if we took away the duo core processors, then those cool android phones would be what, so 2009???? The point is we can't. Just like the quad core makes the HTC One X cool, the mouth watering camera on this thing makes it way too cool. That's just the way things are.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 06:48

102. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


more pixels more fun eh? well too bad cause the screen wont compensate the camera resolution. the 808 has an amazing camera, ill give em that, but the thing is, the ppi, the the single core processor, the ppi and the screen resolution, they did not improve it. they just focus on the camera because nokia knows its what they are good at. the phone is not a full package. it just have a good camera, thats i.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:04

106. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


The Retina Display is already laughing at the 808 LCD display...

The Nokia 808 is like Rain Man... Can do some pretty awesome shots... but it RETARDED nonetheless...

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 11:18

138. rav405 (unregistered)


FYI,808 has amoled clear black display and not a LCD....

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 06:14

132. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


you really need to learn more about smartphones before you start talking. The only area where you'll notice a big difference when you compare a phone like the n8 (which i have) and the iphone which a friend has in when you browse the web. And even then, its subjective. When it comes to viewing pictures or videos, that higher resolution om such a small screen, doesn't make much of a difference. I have seen this with my own eyes, and yes i have 20/20 vision.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 06:56

135. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


stupid. do you know anything about what they call "pixel per inch"? 808's screen is clear yeah, as clear as a squid's ink f**kn homo. its screen and your opinion are both dim.

posted on 05 Apr 2012, 10:18

110. Mekobag (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Good point... at least you KNOW which makes the phone cool. Unlike some hotshots who kept on justifying that 680Mhz and 256MB RAM still beats most phones...

What's next, @stylinred? "The N-Gage Rules"???

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